Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

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AD is trying to get traded? :Or maybe food in Texas is the real problem here?

Is fat eyeglasses street clothes better than fat Luka? I don't think so...It will be a looooong season for Mavs fans. Ouch.

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Grimes takes QO and is now paid actually less than Martin who Nico traded for because of cap reasons. Obviously Grimes wanted out but still... Another magnificent move by Nico.

[Bob8]

Gafford being out for the start of the season means Kidd won't have problems with minutes distribution for bigs. The only good thing about Mavs' roster construction is, they won't even feel 1 or 2 bigs being out.

[ACMFFL]

Tbf Davis had to rest a lot following the eye surgery. If I dont remember wrong, he started training only a dozen of days ago and it was believed to be Davis' first action at game speed since last July.

I guess he couldn't do much after the surgery, I mean, post-retinal surgery usually requires that patients maintain a face-down position for an extended period and prohibits any physical activity for like 2-6 weeks.

I know it's easy to target AD and make fun of him, but dealing with retinal detached surgery is no joke, guys.

[Bob8]

Tbf Davis had to rest a lot following the eye surgery. If I dont remember wrong, he started training only a dozen of days ago and it was believed to be Davis' first action at game speed since last July.

I guess he couldn't do much after the surgery, I mean, post-retinal surgery usually requires that patients maintain a face-down position for an extended period and prohibits any physical activity for like 2-6 weeks.

I know it's easy to target AD and make fun of him, but dealing with retinal detached surgery is no joke, guys.

It's still funny that a fat, lazy guy you traded away comes in the best shape of his life to training camp and a guy who you traded for comes back fat.

AD should lose a lot of weight to play Pf, which is not exactly easy during season. Or maybe he will finally realise that C is his natural position now. That would be the best for Mavs. Next move should be trading Gafford for someone who can create something.

[ACMFFL]

Tbf Davis had to rest a lot following the eye surgery. If I dont remember wrong, he started training only a dozen of days ago and it was believed to be Davis' first action at game speed since last July.

I guess he couldn't do much after the surgery, I mean, post-retinal surgery usually requires that patients maintain a face-down position for an extended period and prohibits any physical activity for like 2-6 weeks.

I know it's easy to target AD and make fun of him, but dealing with retinal detached surgery is no joke, guys.

It's still funny that a fat, lazy guy you traded away comes in the best shape of his life to training camp and a guy who you traded for comes back fat.

So I guess that dealing with injuries all the summer is a valid excuse only for Luka. I get it

[Bob8]

Tbf Davis had to rest a lot following the eye surgery. If I dont remember wrong, he started training only a dozen of days ago and it was believed to be Davis' first action at game speed since last July.

I guess he couldn't do much after the surgery, I mean, post-retinal surgery usually requires that patients maintain a face-down position for an extended period and prohibits any physical activity for like 2-6 weeks.

I know it's easy to target AD and make fun of him, but dealing with retinal detached surgery is no joke, guys.

It's still funny that a fat, lazy guy you traded away comes in the best shape of his life to training camp and a guy who you traded for comes back fat.

So I guess that dealing with injuries all the summer is a valid excuse only for Luka. I get it

I don't believe you get it, Luka was traded away while having injured calf and being fat.

[ACMFFL]

It's still funny that a fat, lazy guy you traded away comes in the best shape of his life to training camp and a guy who you traded for comes back fat.

So I guess that dealing with injuries all the summer is a valid excuse only for Luka. I get it

I don't believe you get it, Luka was traded away while having injured calf and being fat.

I'm talking about the fans, most of them were making all the excuses of this world to justify Luka weight, but they can't do the same with AD cause you know, nobody likes him, so let's ridicule him for no reason.

[Bob8]

So I guess that dealing with injuries all the summer is a valid excuse only for Luka. I get it

I don't believe you get it, Luka was traded away while having injured calf and being fat.

I'm talking about the fans, most of them were making all the excuses of this world to justify Luka weight, but they can't do the same with AD cause you know, nobody likes him, so let's ridicule him for no reason.

Fat Luka had 34/9/10 season and Nba Finals before he was traded, the most minutes played in Nba, RS+playoffs. I'm pretty sure nobody will care about AD weight, if he comes near those numbers. Problem with AD is that he's non stop injured even when he's fit, I will be nicely surprised if he lasts training camp without injuries with that additional weight.

[ACMFFL]

I don't believe you get it, Luka was traded away while having injured calf and being fat.

I'm talking about the fans, most of them were making all the excuses of this world to justify Luka weight, but they can't do the same with AD cause you know, nobody likes him, so let's ridicule him for no reason.

Fat Luka had 34/9/10 season and Nba Finals before he was traded. I'm pretty sure nobody will care about AD weight, if he comes near those numbers. Problem with AD is that he's non stop injured even when he's fit, I will be nicely surprised if he lasts training camp without injuries with that additional weight.

Dude, you're still missing the point pretty badly. What I'm saying is that I'm sick about the toxic climate around the Mavs, some people just can't wait to **** on this team: if Luka came overweight, people were saying he had to deal with injury all the summer; if AD looks thicker let's ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he put on weight.
Unfortunately hypocrisy is all over the place within this fanbase.

[Bob8]

I'm talking about the fans, most of them were making all the excuses of this world to justify Luka weight, but they can't do the same with AD cause you know, nobody likes him, so let's ridicule him for no reason.

Fat Luka had 34/9/10 season and Nba Finals before he was traded. I'm pretty sure nobody will care about AD weight, if he comes near those numbers. Problem with AD is that he's non stop injured even when he's fit, I will be nicely surprised if he lasts training camp without injuries with that additional weight.

Dude, you're still missing the point pretty badly. What I'm saying is that I'm sick about the toxic climate around the Mavs, some people just can't wait to **** on this team: if Luka came overweight, people were saying he had to deal with injury all the summer; if AD looks thicker let's ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he puts on weight.
Unfortunately hypocrisy is all over the place within this fanbase.

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about Luka after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

[ACMFFL]

Fat Luka had 34/9/10 season and Nba Finals before he was traded. I'm pretty sure nobody will care about AD weight, if he comes near those numbers. Problem with AD is that he's non stop injured even when he's fit, I will be nicely surprised if he lasts training camp without injuries with that additional weight.

Dude, you're still missing the point pretty badly. What I'm saying is that I'm sick about the toxic climate around the Mavs, some people just can't wait to **** on this team: if Luka came overweight, people were saying he had to deal with injury all the summer; if AD looks thicker let's ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he puts on weight.
Unfortunately hypocrisy is all over the place within this fanbase.

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about him after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

[Bob8]

Dude, you're still missing the point pretty badly. What I'm saying is that I'm sick about the toxic climate around the Mavs, some people just can't wait to **** on this team: if Luka came overweight, people were saying he had to deal with injury all the summer; if AD looks thicker let's ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he puts on weight.
Unfortunately hypocrisy is all over the place within this fanbase.

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about him after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

I will have ultimate love for 34/9/10 fat AD.

Where did you find Koper?

[ACMFFL]

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about him after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

I will have ultimate love for 34/9/10 fat AD.

Where do you find Koper?

Sorry but it's hard to believe you, I feel like you would still try to split hair to find something to make fun of him, even if he'll average a triple double.

I mentioned Koper cause it is where I spent 2 weeks of my summer holiday. Also I lived for years in Trieste and I traveled to Slovenia several times in that period. I actually love that place.

[Bob8]

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

I will have ultimate love for 34/9/10 fat AD.

Where do you find Koper?

Sorry but it's hard to believe you, I feel like you would still try to split hair to find something to make fun of him, even if he'll average a triple double.

I mentioned Koper cause it is where I spent 2 weeks of my summer holiday. Also I lived for years in Trieste and I traveled to Slovenia several times in that period. I actually love that place.

Unfortunately we will never know.

I like Trieste a lot. Not for shopping, but just for a walk, coffee and some wine is great. To be honest I like the whole Italy, great food, amazing places, history and foremost fantastic skiing in Dolomites, where I spend 3 weeks every winner.

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Dude, you're still missing the point pretty badly. What I'm saying is that I'm sick about the toxic climate around the Mavs, some people just can't wait to **** on this team: if Luka came overweight, people were saying he had to deal with injury all the summer; if AD looks thicker let's ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he puts on weight.
Unfortunately hypocrisy is all over the place within this fanbase.

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about him after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

Bob actually made great points, basically same points Nico and Dumont were making to the media after the trade. Same arguments can be thrown back to their faces now. They lucked into Flagg and that is the only thing why fans will have something to be happy about for the future. You trade for AD, you know what you're getting into. AD played 2 games at 100% after the trade and in both games he got injured.

Also, no one hates the franchise, they hate people running it. Owners who are actively supporting genocide in Gaza and a GM who had no clue how popular his main guy was with the fanbase... like how can you justify all of that? Without Flagg, what would be the future of this team? I guess Dwight Powell since it looks like he'll still play on this team when he's 60yo lol.

[41Dirk41]

Karma will hit the Mavs so hard until Nico Harrison is here. No way out.

Half of the roster is already injuried or something and season is not even started. Wow.

[Teffer10]

If AD plays 82 games and averages 35mins per game through the regular season, most fans would continue to be skeptical about his ability to make it through the grueling POs. Count me as one of them.

We all know Luka will be there come PO time no matter what.

There is absolutely a justifiable reason for Mavs fans to be critical of AD and the situation.
Two different players at 2 different levels that should have never been swapped for one another.

If fans aren't critical of the situation, what will stop it from happening again?

[41Dirk41]

There is nothing to be skeptical, street clothes played 20 games with us and he already had 2 surgery and he is yet out of shape.

Worst case scenario possibile is happened. Plus Gafford have a bad ankle.

I can understand why he is excited to be here, he will be resigned for another max contract soon and be happy before retirement.

Fire Nico Harrison

[ACMFFL]

I'm getting your point, problem is that you see just 1 part of equation. Luka was not just fat, he was incredibly productive too, with the biggest usage in the league. 5x in first All Nba team. Like DFS said, maybe everyone in the league should be fat. AD lasted 3Qs before getting injured, I would say that he still needs to prove something to be loved by Mavs fans. Seeing in shape Luka and fat AD doesn't exactly make things great for Mavs fans. And it's funny story considering how Mavs organisation talked about him after trading him. Trading superstar in the prime for 6 years older injury prone player, who's now fat.

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

Bob actually made great points, basically same points Nico and Dumont were making to the media after the trade. Same arguments can be thrown back to their faces now. They lucked into Flagg and that is the only thing why fans will have something to be happy about for the future. You trade for AD, you know what you're getting into. AD played 2 games at 100% after the trade and in both games he got injured.

Also, no one hates the franchise, they hate people running it. Owners who are actively supporting genocide in Gaza and a GM who had no clue how popular his main guy was with the fanbase... like how can you justify all of that? Without Flagg, what would be the future of this team? I guess Dwight Powell since it looks like he'll still play on this team when he's 60yo lol.

Wait a minute, you've gone way too far here. What are we even doing here? I mean, my point was just to remark the hyprocrisy within the fanbase, AD had to deal with injury basically all the summer but nobody gave a flying F about it and decided to ridicule him for his look. How is it fair and not a toxic behaviour?
Owner, FO, are all still the scam of Earth, but they have nothing do with my argument.