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Re: Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here? 

Post#2521 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:37 pm

HMFFL wrote:Multiple sources tell DallasBasketball.com that the Mavs are in the process of ending a 20-year relationship with their previous flagship station, 103.3 ESPN, to make a move of their broadcasts to 97.1 The Eagle.

 

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I’m guessing 97.1 is making the move to being a sports station (currently is primarily a rock station). Ben and Skin (Skin is the sideline reporter/yuck monkey for the Mavs) moved over the 97.1 last year and Chuck Cooperstein (Mavs play by play guy) just signed a deal with 97.1. Once ESPN ended their run in Dallas it was a matter of time before the Mavs moved to a new local station.


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Post#2522 » by Teffer10 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:22 pm

arkuo wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Whatever happened to Ntilikina?
I don't hear much about him anymore but have thought he could be a cheap version of what we were looking for in the Wright/JRich role.
Did someone sign him?
If not we should consider signing him because we could use another perimeter defender.



Currently unemployed. Same boat as DSJ. Both draft busts.

Frank at least has some skills we could use. We don't have a solid perimeter defender on this team that we can put on active star guards like CP3, Booker, Curry, Lillard, Westbrook, Morant, Murray, Conley, Mitchell, etc....
DFS and Bullock can guard some but they'll need some help.
Green is still unproven and Brown might be a possibility but still nothing guaranteed.
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Post#2523 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:27 am

Wings and center are vastly improved over last seasons scrubs on the bench so Brunson should get more done
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Post#2524 » by jpengland » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:20 am

Teffer10 wrote:Whatever happened to Ntilikina?
I don't hear much about him anymore but have thought he could be a cheap version of what we were looking for in the Wright/JRich role.
Did someone sign him?
If not we should consider signing him because we could use another perimeter defender.


What happened to him?

The league realised he wasn't anywhere near an NBA calibre player.

He's got a 45TS%, can't run an offense and his defense is only a little above average, at best.

He's awful and shouldn't be anywhere near an NBA roster.
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Post#2525 » by jpengland » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:23 am

41Dirk41 wrote:I agree that Green hasn't shown too much but DFS in 3 first years with Mavs was basically a minus for us (and he was 23yo when he played first NBA game).


The problem is when we start thinking a DFS developmental trajectory is 'normal' when he's a huge, huge outlier.

Could Green become as good as DFS one day? Maybe. But the chances are he won't.

The vast majority of non lotto first round picks will not become NBA starter level players. The chances of that happening after being very bad in your rookie season is even lower.

At this point, if Green becomes a rotational player then that's a win.
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Post#2526 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:11 am

jpengland wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I agree that Green hasn't shown too much but DFS in 3 first years with Mavs was basically a minus for us (and he was 23yo when he played first NBA game).


The problem is when we start thinking a DFS developmental trajectory is 'normal' when he's a huge, huge outlier.

Could Green become as good as DFS one day? Maybe. But the chances are he won't.

The vast majority of non lotto first round picks will not become NBA starter level players. The chances of that happening after being very bad in your rookie season is even lower.

At this point, if Green becomes a rotational player then that's a win.


This is a very good point and i agree.

Green seems a great worker and have good attitude. We can only hope...this season he will be at least become a 10minutes role player.
For sure Dallas is a perfect situation for his growth.
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Post#2527 » by Bob8 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:21 pm

SOUNDCHASER wrote:Wings and center are vastly improved over last seasons scrubs on the bench so Brunson should get more done


How is C vastly improved? There's no one new who will have any kind of impact.
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Post#2528 » by Pinkyring » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:33 pm

jpengland wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I agree that Green hasn't shown too much but DFS in 3 first years with Mavs was basically a minus for us (and he was 23yo when he played first NBA game).


The problem is when we start thinking a DFS developmental trajectory is 'normal' when he's a huge, huge outlier.

Could Green become as good as DFS one day? Maybe. But the chances are he won't.

The vast majority of non lotto first round picks will not become NBA starter level players. The chances of that happening after being very bad in your rookie season is even lower.

At this point, if Green becomes a rotational player then that's a win.

U really judging a guy who played 11 minutes s game and 39 minutes for a coach that doesn't really play rookies??
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Post#2529 » by ejs78 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:45 pm

Bob8 wrote:
SOUNDCHASER wrote:Wings and center are vastly improved over last seasons scrubs on the bench so Brunson should get more done


How is C vastly improved? There's no one new who will have any kind of impact.
Moses Brown

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Post#2530 » by Teffer10 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:43 pm

Bob8 wrote:
SOUNDCHASER wrote:Wings and center are vastly improved over last seasons scrubs on the bench so Brunson should get more done


How is C vastly improved? There's no one new who will have any kind of impact.

We improved quantity, not quality.
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Post#2531 » by Bob8 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:31 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
SOUNDCHASER wrote:Wings and center are vastly improved over last seasons scrubs on the bench so Brunson should get more done


How is C vastly improved? There's no one new who will have any kind of impact.
Moses Brown

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Post#2532 » by jpengland » Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
jpengland wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I agree that Green hasn't shown too much but DFS in 3 first years with Mavs was basically a minus for us (and he was 23yo when he played first NBA game).


The problem is when we start thinking a DFS developmental trajectory is 'normal' when he's a huge, huge outlier.

Could Green become as good as DFS one day? Maybe. But the chances are he won't.

The vast majority of non lotto first round picks will not become NBA starter level players. The chances of that happening after being very bad in your rookie season is even lower.

At this point, if Green becomes a rotational player then that's a win.

U really judging a guy who played 11 minutes s game and 39 minutes for a coach that doesn't really play rookies??


Blame circumstance all you like. He was bad as a rookie.

I'm not saying he won't, or can't, get better. But fact of the matter is that it's significantly more likely than not at this point that he's never even at DFS level.
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Post#2533 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:57 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
How is C vastly improved? There's no one new who will have any kind of impact.
Moses Brown

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:lol:

We get to see then don't we. Wings are vastly improved both our 2 new wings are better than JRich and when they get in with the bench playing we have Brunson to pass to them and if our second string centner is Moses then that too will be an improved position since he could be the best big behind KP and by the way Kleber is a PF as is KP for the record he is kind of frail for a 5 so he needs to be utilized in a way that he is more protected from being injured now and that means PF usage next to another 5.
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Post#2534 » by Bob8 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:31 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Moses Brown

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:lol:

We get to see then don't we. Wings are vastly improved both our 2 new wings are better than JRich and when they get in with the bench playing we have Brunson to pass to them and if our second string centner is Moses then that too will be an improved position since he could be the best big behind KP and by the way Kleber is a PF as is KP for the record he is kind of frail for a 5 so he needs to be utilized in a way that he is more protected from being injured now and that means PF usage next to another 5.


In which position will WCS, Boban and Powell play?

People might be a bit prematurely excited about Sterling Brown. His only good season was in tanking Houston.

Brunson had very good season, but not because of passing.

You might be right about C position though. KP is the only Mavs' hope, if he becomes rim protector as he once was.
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Post#2535 » by HMFFL » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:24 pm

Jason Kidd on Kristaps Porzingis: 'He's in a good place, physically and mentally'


When The News caught up with him on Saturday in Mansfield’s Fieldhouse USA, where the Jason Kidd Select girls basketball teams were competing, Kidd estimated that he and Smith were in Riga for three days. When traversing international time zones, details become a little fuzzy. “KP was an incredible host,” Kidd said. “We had dinners. “We got to see him work out and we got to talk a lot. “He’s in a good place, physically and mentally,” Kidd added of Porzingis, “and I’m excited about the opportunity to coach him.”

 

– via Brad Townsend @ Dallas Morning News



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Post#2536 » by DallasMFFL » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:08 pm

HMFFL wrote:Jason Kidd on Kristaps Porzingis: 'He's in a good place, physically and mentally'


When The News caught up with him on Saturday in Mansfield’s Fieldhouse USA, where the Jason Kidd Select girls basketball teams were competing, Kidd estimated that he and Smith were in Riga for three days. When traversing international time zones, details become a little fuzzy. “KP was an incredible host,” Kidd said. “We had dinners. “We got to see him work out and we got to talk a lot. “He’s in a good place, physically and mentally,” Kidd added of Porzingis, “and I’m excited about the opportunity to coach him.”

 

– via Brad Townsend @ Dallas Morning News



https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2021/08/22/jason-kidd-on-latvia-visit-with-kristaps-porzingis-hes-in-a-good-place-physically-and-mentally/

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I’m excited about a healthy Porzingis. If nothing else to improve his trade value.


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Post#2537 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:00 pm

HMFFL wrote:Jason Kidd on Kristaps Porzingis: 'He's in a good place, physically and mentally'


When The News caught up with him on Saturday in Mansfield’s Fieldhouse USA, where the Jason Kidd Select girls basketball teams were competing, Kidd estimated that he and Smith were in Riga for three days. When traversing international time zones, details become a little fuzzy. “KP was an incredible host,” Kidd said. “We had dinners. “We got to see him work out and we got to talk a lot. “He’s in a good place, physically and mentally,” Kidd added of Porzingis, “and I’m excited about the opportunity to coach him.”

 

– via Brad Townsend @ Dallas Morning News



https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2021/08/22/jason-kidd-on-latvia-visit-with-kristaps-porzingis-hes-in-a-good-place-physically-and-mentally/

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Kidd has a lot of flaws as an X’s and O’s guy and no one is debating what f he’s a better coach than Carlisle (he’s not) but one thing no one seems to dispute on Kidd is his ability to develop players. If he can right KP’s career then he was absolutely worth the hire.


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Post#2538 » by arkuo » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:09 pm

Well, Dirk, Finley and everyone on Cuban's inner circle seemed to have signed off on Kidd. So that answers if he's worth a shot.
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Post#2539 » by arkuo » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:19 pm

I'd keep tabs on Jokic at this point. The amount of disrespect or neglect he's getting in Denver is a direct result of lack of personal marketability in Denver.

He's also the only league MVP in recent memory to not have been billed a Christmas Day game at least. No shoe deal, no other player on his team that can get national media attention. IMO, this is where Luka needs to work the phone lines and where Mr. Nike comes in to get some marketing work done to show him a marketing plan on and off the court. That is why you keep cap space for 2023.
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Post#2540 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:33 pm

Looks like Kidd took some time away from his girl’s youth league tournament to visit KP in Latvia.

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