Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[Mavrelous]

I'm optimistic about KP, I think he'll have a good year

[41Dirk41]

Me too.

[SOUNDCHASER]

If we can keep KP happy and play him at PF to preserve his health and especially his knee from getting damaged anymore then we could have a contending team if somehow we could just find that final piece at SF to play the role of Matrix.

We need to do it to it like the 2011 team did it.

Dirk and Tyson was a dominating front court Matrix Kidd and Terry were not the studs they were in their youth but this team has somewhat similar talent in Luka and THJ. That whole team was ancient and long in the tooth but they peaked and won a ring finally.

A Matrix like player is all we need if you ask me that would have to be added because DFS is not near that level of defensive talent. Or maybe we develop that Omoruyi kid into a tough sf/pf type.

Brown is sized about like Tyson and he is a decent enough rebounder for a young center that if developed he coule become something specia.

We still have last years starting traditional 5 in WCS and of course he fell flat and so Boban got that call up in the play offs. What we need to see happen is Brown needs to play a lot at the beginning of the season so we can see how he fits and what he can do, if the developmental progress of Brown shows signs of accelerating then WCS is a luxury worth packaging with Powell to Tor for Dragic and then we can throw in some other nobody at the bottom rung of the ladder maybe even Green if we can get something else in return.

[HMFFL]

If Dillon Brooks is available, the Mavericks should be very interested

Dillon Brooks would be a phenomenal backcourt pairing for Luka Doncic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mavsmoneyball.com/platform/amp/2021/8/22/22636880/if-dillon-brooks-is-available-the-mavericks-should-be-very-interested

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[Teffer10]

If Dillon Brooks is available, the Mavericks should be very interested

Dillon Brooks would be a phenomenal backcourt pairing for Luka Doncic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mavsmoneyball.com/platform/amp/2021/8/22/22636880/if-dillon-brooks-is-available-the-mavericks-should-be-very-interested

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I posted that in the Trade Discussion thread and there didn't seem to be much interest.
I don't know anything about the guy.

[Bob8]

If Dillon Brooks is available, the Mavericks should be very interested

Dillon Brooks would be a phenomenal backcourt pairing for Luka Doncic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mavsmoneyball.com/platform/amp/2021/8/22/22636880/if-dillon-brooks-is-available-the-mavericks-should-be-very-interested

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Are we talking about a player whose career FG% is 42, whose career TS% is 51.7, eFG% 48.4, BPM - 4.1...And even if we look only his last year, his numbers are more or less the same. Totally inefficient chucker. Luka might be a magician, but I doubt very much that even he can turn Brooks into much different player.

[jpengland]

If we can keep KP happy and play him at PF to preserve his health and especially his knee from getting damaged anymore then we could have a contending team if somehow we could just find that final piece at SF to play the role of Matrix.

We need to do it to it like the 2011 team did it.

Dirk and Tyson was a dominating front court Matrix Kidd and Terry were not the studs they were in their youth but this team has somewhat similar talent in Luka and THJ. That whole team was ancient and long in the tooth but they peaked and won a ring finally.

A Matrix like player is all we need if you ask me that would have to be added because DFS is not near that level of defensive talent. Or maybe we develop that Omoruyi kid into a tough sf/pf type.

Brown is sized about like Tyson and he is a decent enough rebounder for a young center that if developed he coule become something specia.

We still have last years starting traditional 5 in WCS and of course he fell flat and so Boban got that call up in the play offs. What we need to see happen is Brown needs to play a lot at the beginning of the season so we can see how he fits and what he can do, if the developmental progress of Brown shows signs of accelerating then WCS is a luxury worth packaging with Powell to Tor for Dragic and then we can throw in some other nobody at the bottom rung of the ladder maybe even Green if we can get something else in return.

You aren't protecting KP by having his chase stretch 4s around. That's going to damage his knees MUCH more.

He's a 5. It's also where he provides most value.

[daoneandonly]

If we can keep KP happy and play him at PF to preserve his health and especially his knee from getting damaged anymore then we could have a contending team if somehow we could just find that final piece at SF to play the role of Matrix.

We need to do it to it like the 2011 team did it.

Dirk and Tyson was a dominating front court Matrix Kidd and Terry were not the studs they were in their youth but this team has somewhat similar talent in Luka and THJ. That whole team was ancient and long in the tooth but they peaked and won a ring finally.

A Matrix like player is all we need if you ask me that would have to be added because DFS is not near that level of defensive talent. Or maybe we develop that Omoruyi kid into a tough sf/pf type.

Brown is sized about like Tyson and he is a decent enough rebounder for a young center that if developed he coule become something specia.

We still have last years starting traditional 5 in WCS and of course he fell flat and so Boban got that call up in the play offs. What we need to see happen is Brown needs to play a lot at the beginning of the season so we can see how he fits and what he can do, if the developmental progress of Brown shows signs of accelerating then WCS is a luxury worth packaging with Powell to Tor for Dragic and then we can throw in some other nobody at the bottom rung of the ladder maybe even Green if we can get something else in return.

You aren't protecting KP by having his chase stretch 4s around. That's going to damage his knees MUCH more.

He's a 5. It's also where he provides most value.

The fact that we have so many posts about keeping KP happy and healthy proves he needs to go. He's got a piss poor attitude and needs to be coddled, we dont need the drama. Get this guy out of here please Mavs.

[arkuo]

Cuban planning to assemble a circus on the bench.

1. We have Boban the clown to cheer everyone up
2. We have the WNBA player who will intern as a coach and still have her WNBA day job.
3. Now the Mavs are in talks to hire Jared Dudley as the highest paid NBA cheerleader to build chemistry.

[Archx]

I actually don't mind Dudley hire. He obviously is not afraid of anyone and is someone that can bring some extra toughness to the team. Lakers loved him on the bench hopefully he can do good things for the team as a coach.

[arkuo]

I actually don't mind Dudley hire. He obviously is not afraid of anyone and is someone that can bring some extra toughness to the team. Lakers loved him on the bench hopefully he can do good things for the team as a coach.

Sure could teach Powell and Kleber not to just stand there and watch while their star players get techs and get thrown out of a playoff game.

[BlueSan]

The biggest problem I have with the Dudley hire is that at a glance it looks like Kid is building himself a group of guys that will protect him against the opposition.

Dudley was vocal not long ago about how Kidd was great with the Bucks. Now he lands this job. Total coincidence right?

[Maverick41]

The biggest problem I have with the Dudley hire is that at a glance it looks like Kid is building himself a group of guys that will protect him against the opposition.

Dudley was vocal not long ago about how Kidd was great with the Bucks. Now he lands this job. Total coincidence right?

This is a great point and your right, Dudley's positive feedback of Kidd likely landed him the job. The hope is this isn't Kidd's plan but it totally is possible.

I do like the Dudley hire though regardless. He's always been well received on every team he's been on for his leadership, positivity and intelligence. He's literally had a long career just primarily on those skills, rather then actual basketball skill.

[XTraderXL]

Cuban planning to assemble a circus on the bench.

1. We have Boban the clown to cheer everyone up
2. We have the WNBA player who will intern as a coach and still have her WNBA day job.
3. Now the Mavs are in talks to hire Jared Dudley as the highest paid NBA cheerleader to build chemistry.

What else do you expect from a team owned and ran by a clown?

[JJP]

The biggest problem I have with the Dudley hire is that at a glance it looks like Kid is building himself a group of guys that will protect him against the opposition.

Dudley was vocal not long ago about how Kidd was great with the Bucks. Now he lands this job. Total coincidence right?

This is a great point and your right, Dudley's positive feedback of Kidd likely landed him the job. The hope is this isn't Kidd's plan but it totally is possible.

I do like the Dudley hire though regardless. He's always been well received on every team he's been on for his leadership, positivity and intelligence. He's literally had a long career just primarily on those skills, rather then actual basketball skill.

This is pretty clearly the entire front office changing to a player-friendly culture. It's all about who you can attract to come here now that players help facilitate their own locations in free agency. Jared Dudley is a recruitment tool as much as a coach. So are Nico, Kidd, and Barea for that matter.

I'm not sure this is a bad idea. It got the Nets going in the right direction. On the other hand, it takes much more than a bunch of friendly faces to manufacture a winner. All we can do is wait and see.

[BlueSan]

Barrel hire I think is a part of the Cubans "innovation" of giving the club's "legends" a chance to work for the organization coupled with Kidd's OK of it when Barrera attended Summe League.
We all still remember the press conference where it was specifically mentioned.
After that, it was basically set. However, Barrera's role as far as I know is in some kind of a strange Gray zone similar to Dirk's.
He is partially assistant coach, partially scout based in Miami/Puerto Rico area, or something?

To be honest half of the things they are doing I do not understand from the organizational and practical point of view, a lot of them start making a lot more sense when you think about them from the PR's side of view. And that has me a bit worried about the entire situation in Dallas.

[styLesdavis]

Barrel hire I think is a part of the Cubans "innovation" of giving the club's "legends" a chance to work for the organization coupled with Kidd's OK of it when Barrera attended Summe League.
We all still remember the press conference where it was specifically mentioned.
After that, it was basically set. However, Barrera's role as far as I know is in some kind of a strange Gray zone similar to Dirk's.
He is partially assistant coach, partially scout based in Miami/Puerto Rico area, or something?

To be honest half of the things they are doing I do not understand from the organizational and practical point of view, a lot of them start making a lot more sense when you think about them from the PR's side of view. And that has me a bit worried about the entire situation in Dallas.

José Juan BAREA.

[arkuo]

What's interesting to note is that the Mavs coachinf staff mostly consist of rookie coaches and assistants. They're all interns. So it's safe to say you're not getting them for playoff winning experience. Cuban's getting these guys with the goal of making friends around the league. For free agency purposes. Even Nike guy was hired for that.

[JJP]

What's interesting to note is that the Mavs coachinf staff mostly consist of rookie coaches and assistants. They're all interns. So it's safe to say you're not getting them for playoff winning experience. Cuban's getting these guys with the goal of making friends around the league. For free agency purposes. Even Nike guy was hired for that.

I understand that argument, but I think you can make a case for getting new blood. Most of these new Dallas coaches have playoff experience from winning organizations. We also have the two most established assistant coaches in Shamgod and Armstrong still working with us.

Let's face it. It hasn't really been working for Dallas in over a decade. Our drafts have been bad and free agency worse. This is at least a change. We can criticize all we want, but there's no reason to project failure when we have no way of knowing anything about the makeup of this front office until it's had some time.

[Archx]

That is a strong coaching and player development staff. Kokoskov was always amazing as an assistant and Lakers ( including LBJ ), are already missing Dudley because of everything else he did for them. I think nr1 priority for them should be implementing KP better on offense and also develop Green. Other rookies are more or less a bust. I'm also very eager to see how Brown will play, if he can replace the corpse of WCS for example... unless he gets traded for Dragic

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