Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

Mr B · Post #2561 » by **Mr B** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:21 pm

BlueSan wrote:The biggest problem I have with the Dudley hire is that at a glance it looks like Kid is building himself a group of guys that will protect him against the opposition.

Dudley was vocal not long ago about how Kidd was great with the Bucks. Now he lands this job. Total coincidence right?

Wait, you’re trying to tell me that a head coach actually has the audacity to want “his guys” on his bench? The hell you say! Kidd should be fired right now for wanting his guys. Who does he think he is the head coach?

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boogiezen · Post #2562 » by **boogiezen** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:00 pm

It doesn't matter. Kidd is a terrible coach and that will reflect this coming season.

Post #2563 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:36 pm

Supporting Jared Dudley as a Maverick is going to be difficult. I don't care or how outspoken he is, podcast or not, and he always seeks out helpers that side with him. Ugh!

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Post #2564 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:22 pm

It appears they didn’t want him as a player because they felt that, with their aging team, they need youthful depth. They apparently never discussed the possibility that he would retire and become a coach. “Obviously LeBron and A.D. wanted me back,” said Dudley. “But we just couldn’t convince them.”

Dudley played a total of 81 minutes last season, but his impact was timeless. He scored a total of 74 points in two seasons, but his intangibles were countless. “I thought I was coming back to the Lakers,” said Dudley, 36, in a phone interview. “This is crazy.”

“I talked to Rob and Kurt, I thanked them, but I told them, you’re valuing youth more than a locker room presence guy,” Dudley said. “I said, ‘I respect you for doing that, but I think you’re wrong,’” Half the players on the Lakers were recruited there by Dudley. Several younger players were mentored by Dudley. After Kyle Kuzma was traded earlier this month, someone on Twitter asked him to cite his greatest teammate, and he responded, “Duds and it’s not even close.”

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2021-08-26/lakers-failure-to-retain-jared-dudley-is-a-massive-loss-for-the-franchise

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SOUNDCHASER · Post #2565 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:02 pm

If the coach lets the players play that is all that matters he has to use them the right way to create momentum at the right time and get them to destroy the ther teams momentum by taking them on hard and winning the ends of quarters so that the other team is demoralized the entire time they are on the bench in between quarters.

Mr B · Post #2566 » by **Mr B** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:24 pm

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Post #2567 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:16 pm

I hate not getting Nance, Mavs could have offered WCS and Green.

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Mr B · Post #2568 » by **Mr B** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:56 pm

KhalilS wrote:I hate not getting Nance, Mavs could have offered WCS and Green.

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Is there a similar player on a crappy team that could be acquired at the trade deadline?

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Post #2569 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 pm

Tim Cato: Nate Hinton has been waived by the Mavericks, per source.

– via Twitter tim_cato

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Teffer10 · Post #2570 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:08 pm

HMFFL wrote:Tim Cato: Nate Hinton has been waived by the Mavericks, per source.

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No big loss....not sure why they were so quick to sign him to a 2-way in the first place.
Wonder what this means though.

DallasMFFL · Post #2571 » by **DallasMFFL** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:47 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Tim Cato: Nate Hinton has been waived by the Mavericks, per source.

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No big loss....not sure why they were so quick to sign him to a 2-way in the first place.
Wonder what this means though.

Probably going to offer Jones the other two way deal. I’m glad they did it. I was bummed that they didn’t have a two way offer for Jones.

Teffer10 · Post #2572 » by **Teffer10** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:35 am

DallasMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Tim Cato: Nate Hinton has been waived by the Mavericks, per source.

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No big loss....not sure why they were so quick to sign him to a 2-way in the first place.
Wonder what this means though.

Probably going to offer Jones the other two way deal. I’m glad they did it. I was bummed that they didn’t have a two way offer for Jones.

I like Jones but wondering if there is someone else out there they are looking at.
Shuler might be another because he brings a little bit of everything. Not a high ceiling but could become a decent backup someday and would probably be the best defensive PG on the roster.
Also wondering if they would be looking at another PF because that is where we have the least depth.

DallasMFFL · Post #2573 » by **DallasMFFL** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:10 am

Teffer10 wrote:
DallasMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:No big loss....not sure why they were so quick to sign him to a 2-way in the first place.
Wonder what this means though.

Probably going to offer Jones the other two way deal. I’m glad they did it. I was bummed that they didn’t have a two way offer for Jones.

I like Jones but wondering if there is someone else out there they are looking at.
Shuler might be another because he brings a little bit of everything. Not a high ceiling but could become a decent backup someday and would probably be the best defensive PG on the roster.
Also wondering if they would be looking at another PF because that is where we have the least depth.

Shuler would be a great option too. Patrick Beverly Type. I think you might be onto something with the lack of depth at the PF position. I also think teams will want Maxi or DFS if we end up making a trade during the season so it might be best to add depth at that position.

Mr B · Post #2574 » by **Mr B** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:45 am

Would the Mavs be interested if he’s a FA? Would/ should he be interested in the Mavs? How much?

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arkuo · Post #2575 » by **arkuo** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:14 pm

I have a feeling the Mavs will start the season as is, just to see if Bullock and/or Brown and move the needle or would fit the team mould as is. If the team slides, a possible trade for Dillon Brooks can be pulled off midseason or closer to the deadline. Not saying he would fit, but Cuban might pull a knee jerk move right before the TDL.

Post #2576 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:51 pm

Mr B wrote:Would the Mavs be interested if he’s a FA? Would/ should he be interested in the Mavs? How much?

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For the vet min? absolutely, even though he's likely a Laker with his old buddy LeBron.

Post #2577 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:07 pm

I'd love for the Mavs to trade to the right to overpay Collin Sexton, Green + 25 1st + eating Cedi Ossman into TPE.

Teffer10 · Post #2578 » by **Teffer10** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:48 pm

arkuo wrote:I have a feeling the Mavs will start the season as is, just to see if Bullock and/or Brown and move the needle or would fit the team mould as is. If the team slides, a possible trade for Dillon Brooks can be pulled off midseason or closer to the deadline. Not saying he would fit, but Cuban might pull a knee jerk move right before the TDL.

Yeah, I have the same feeling.
I'm curbing my enthusiasm this year on Bullock and Brown though because many of us (including me) were giddy on bringing in JRich and Johnson last season to address areas of need and they seemed to be perfect fits at the time.
Brown and Bullock seem like good additions and fits for this team but only time will tell.

Bob8 · Post #2579 » by **Bob8** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:39 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
arkuo wrote:I have a feeling the Mavs will start the season as is, just to see if Bullock and/or Brown and move the needle or would fit the team mould as is. If the team slides, a possible trade for Dillon Brooks can be pulled off midseason or closer to the deadline. Not saying he would fit, but Cuban might pull a knee jerk move right before the TDL.

Yeah, I have the same feeling.
I'm curbing my enthusiasm this year on Bullock and Brown though because many of us (including me) were giddy on bringing in JRich and Johnson last season to address areas of need and they seemed to be perfect fits at the time.
Brown and Bullock seem like good additions and fits for this team but only time will tell.

Only real addition is Bullock. Problem is that Luka is the only real Pg of the team. Mavs is totally dependent on 1 player, something like this shouldn't never happen. Not be able to get additional Pg is just unacceptable.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #2580 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:53 pm

Brunson seems to be a PG to me but his assists are not that high at only 3.5 yet that could be due to how he is used.

Still most of the team is so incapable of getting assists its as if they are not even trying to get any.

Everyone who plays a lot should avg at least 2 to 3 a game.

Id like another PG if Brunson fails to improve his assists but that is one of the keys to this season and getting him a better cast on the court to pass to when starters are resting may help him develop to the next level.

If not well he should serve to get us a nice player we can use.

Dragic may get bought out still and we could use him for a year or so but the long term needs are not filled by bringing on Dragic.

Ultimately I would love to see Lillard added into the mix.