Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Brunson seems to be a PG to me but his assists are not that high at only 3.5 yet that could be due to how he is used.

Still most of the team is so incapable of getting assists its as if they are not even trying to get any.

Everyone who plays a lot should avg at least 2 to 3 a game.

Id like another PG if Brunson fails to improve his assists but that is one of the keys to this season and getting him a better cast on the court to pass to when starters are resting may help him develop to the next level.

If not well he should serve to get us a nice player we can use.

Dragic may get bought out still and we could use him for a year or so but the long term needs are not filled by bringing on Dragic.

Ultimately I would love to see Lillard added into the mix.

imo, Brunson is somewhat underrated on this board. It's more meaningful to compare per36mins or per100poss stats if you look at raw AST numbers, and his are reasonable, albeit not that great - in fact pretty close to DRose's with NYK last year - given he's shooting 40% from 3pt, 80% from FT and 62% TS and creates a lot for himself. I'm not sure that being essentially current DRose is a great outlook going forward, but it's a very good 2nd string PG and obviously he's likely to improve in some areas, whereas DRose's knees will get to him in the end going forward. Obviously it would be great if he had another couple of AST per100poss, but maybe that would follow more or less automatically if, eg, Bullock is a more reliable shooter and plays on some of the 2nd string line ups with Brunson.

The downside, for me, is that his defence isn't great and I don't really see a path for it to improve. But maybe I'm too pessimistic and missing stuff - do you (all) see a way for him to get better on D?

[deb]

Brunson seems to be a PG to me but his assists are not that high at only 3.5 yet that could be due to how he is used.

Still most of the team is so incapable of getting assists its as if they are not even trying to get any.

Everyone who plays a lot should avg at least 2 to 3 a game.

Id like another PG if Brunson fails to improve his assists but that is one of the keys to this season and getting him a better cast on the court to pass to when starters are resting may help him develop to the next level.

If not well he should serve to get us a nice player we can use.

Dragic may get bought out still and we could use him for a year or so but the long term needs are not filled by bringing on Dragic.

Ultimately I would love to see Lillard added into the mix.

Brunson is basically an undersized scoring combo guard, who can do a bit of playmaking. He wet the bed in playoffs and was virtually unplayable though. So I'm afraid of mavs giving him 10 mil or more per year in the future to just suck in the playoffs. Before the 20/21 season I thought of him more of a true pointguard, his assists numbers and % were higher, I don't know what happened. But maybe Kidd, being the PG savant, can unlock Brunson's pg ability. Considering the roster and FO's inability to address the lack of playmaking on the team, that's what we'll have to hope for. Burke is a similar mold of player, just worse. And Terry is not an NBA player at this point.

Wings on this team are incapable of handling the ball or creating for themselves and others. The mavs could survive the lack of another playmaker, if another starter or two could at least get to 4-5 assists per 36 mins.

Also, mavs are thin on the pf position. Powell isn't really a pf, neither are DFS or Bullock, so they only have Maxi.

This season is going to be hard to watch imo. We're going to have to hope nobody's performance drops and hope for a lot of internal improvement...

[Teffer10]

I have a feeling the Mavs will start the season as is, just to see if Bullock and/or Brown and move the needle or would fit the team mould as is. If the team slides, a possible trade for Dillon Brooks can be pulled off midseason or closer to the deadline. Not saying he would fit, but Cuban might pull a knee jerk move right before the TDL.

Yeah, I have the same feeling.
I'm curbing my enthusiasm this year on Bullock and Brown though because many of us (including me) were giddy on bringing in JRich and Johnson last season to address areas of need and they seemed to be perfect fits at the time.
Brown and Bullock seem like good additions and fits for this team but only time will tell.

Only real addition is Bullock. Problem is that Luka is the only real Pg of the team. Mavs is totally dependent on 1 player, something like this shouldn't never happen. Not be able to get additional Pg is just unacceptable.

I still think there is a good chance Dragic will be on this team before the season is over.
Can't see Raps competing this season so Dragic should be available early on.

[41Dirk41]

All of us know the ball handling problems of this team...After 2 years we are again here with Brunson second best ball handler and nobody outside Luka can create his own shoot.
It's a nightmare. OMG.

[dirkules_41]

Yeah, I have the same feeling.
I'm curbing my enthusiasm this year on Bullock and Brown though because many of us (including me) were giddy on bringing in JRich and Johnson last season to address areas of need and they seemed to be perfect fits at the time.
Brown and Bullock seem like good additions and fits for this team but only time will tell.

Only real addition is Bullock. Problem is that Luka is the only real Pg of the team. Mavs is totally dependent on 1 player, something like this shouldn't never happen. Not be able to get additional Pg is just unacceptable.

I still think there is a good chance Dragic will be on this team before the season is over.
Can't see Raps competing this season so Dragic should be available early on.

And they just signed Svi Mykhailuk, another player for the position who is about a decade and a bit younger.

[deb]

Only real addition is Bullock. Problem is that Luka is the only real Pg of the team. Mavs is totally dependent on 1 player, something like this shouldn't never happen. Not be able to get additional Pg is just unacceptable.

I still think there is a good chance Dragic will be on this team before the season is over.
Can't see Raps competing this season so Dragic should be available early on.

And they just signed Svi Mykhailuk, another player for the position who is about a decade and a bit younger.

Svi is a 6'7 3pt shooting sg/sf, not a playmaker. He shoots over half of all his attempts from three, but converts at just slightly above average clip at .362 for career.

At league minimum and being 24 he certainly isn't a bad player to have on roster, another shooter who down the line might develop into a true elite roleplaying sharpshooter as his release looks good. I wouldn't mind had the mavs signed him to see if he can develop into a Korver, JJ Reddick or Seth Curry type player. But in no way does his signing mean anything for Dragic, they do not play the same position.

[Mavrelous]

The fact that Mavs offered Powell + 1st + 2 2nds for Markannen mean they have no plans to trade for Dragic, combine that with the Birch signing, no trade for Dragic is expected, BCS is Raptors waive him after the trade deadline when he provides no more value for the Raptors, WCS Massai keeps him just to spite the Mavs who didn't agree to part with assets for him.

[arkuo]

The fact that Mavs offered Powell + 1st + 2 2nds for Markannen mean they have no plans to trade for Dragic, combine that with the Birch signing, no trade for Dragic is expected, BCS is Raptors waive him after the trade deadline when he provides no more value for the Raptors, WCS Massai keeps him just to spite the Mavs who didn't agree to part with assets for him.

Depends on what they do this season. The common misconception is good ball movement and assists can only be achieved by going out and signing a point guard. When in fact, moving the ball around via coaching and plays can also garner the same effect. The Mavs had the best offensive rating in the NBA with Luka doing the same thing but the team made more extra passes to the open guy. If they can replicate that this season, and another year of development for Brunson, then they could mask the need for another point guard.

Fact is, Brunson needs to develop as the team's other point guard this year or he can say goodbye to a new contract. He's too slow to take quicker guards off the dribble so he needs to learn how to make plays to become useful. There is no use keeping Brunson AND signing a new point guard just to rack up assists while Luka rests. It's one or the other. Safe to say he gets one last year to showcase what he can do. His godfather protector in Carlisle is also out of the team. No one can lobby for a new contract for him now.

[41Dirk41]

In RS you can replicate that easily.
The problems were there and will be when PO starts.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Dragic is probably not coming. I can live with that and I would think even Luka could as well because he does want to win more than hang out with friends and may just want to play good cop bad cop where the mavs brain trust let him be the good cop and they play the bad cop.

Brunson is clearly running on borrowed time at this poit in his career but even still you hold if you fail to develop better options and that has to happen if you fail to gather a better talent in trade or at the TDL.

You cannot bank on drafting a PG with what we will be picking from. At the position we are stuck choosing from we never will have great odds of finding a major talented PG but the luck of the spurs to get Parker so deep in the draft was amazing. A foreigner at that. Sure would be nice if Luka could recruit us another Euro PG with great skills.

People say he cannot recruit here because of his being a european well then he needs to use his advantages to recruit other Euros.

[41Dirk41]

He recruited Markaneen but we prefer hold on Kleber

[41Dirk41]

Sato for a couple of second round picks, we can't draft. They are useless for us.

[Mr B]

He recruited Markaneen but we prefer hold on Kleber

It’s not like they didn’t make a solid offer for Markkanen. In fact they offered an over pay for Markkanen. Cleveland just offered a better deal.


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[arkuo]

People say he cannot recruit here because of his being a european well then he needs to use his advantages to recruit other Euros.

Im seriously hoping Luka is on the phone with Jokic as we speak. That recruitment has to go all the way to 2023 when Jokic becomes UFA.

Jokic is so overlooked in Denver. He's the only league MVP in recent years that is overlooked this way. Could be because he's not marketable to young Americans today. Could be his style of play, or both. And I say this because Zion Williamson has more endorsements than Jokic despite achieving way less. And that's probably because kids today prefer mixtapes and youtube dunk highlights.

[Bob8]

People say he cannot recruit here because of his being a european well then he needs to use his advantages to recruit other Euros.

Im seriously hoping Luka is on the phone with Jokic as we speak. That recruitment has to go all the way to 2023 when Jokic becomes UFA.

Jokic is so overlooked in Denver. He's the only league MVP in recent years that is overlooked this way. Could be because he's not marketable to young Americans today. Could be his style of play, or both. And I say this because Zion Williamson has more endorsements than Jokic despite achieving way less. And that's probably because kids today prefer mixtapes and youtube dunk highlights.

Jokic has a lot better roster built around him. If that continues Luka going there looks like much more obvious choice.

Jokic is not overlooked, he's a character, who doesn't need and want exposure. I don't even believe that winning championship is first priority for him. He will most likely finish his career in Denver and retire relatively young.

[41Dirk41]

Makes no moves and waiting 2023 for sign Jokic it's the perfect way to lose Doncic.

[Mr B]

Makes no moves and waiting 2023 for sign Jokic it's the perfect way to lose Doncic.

I agree with that.


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[arkuo]

People say he cannot recruit here because of his being a european well then he needs to use his advantages to recruit other Euros.

Im seriously hoping Luka is on the phone with Jokic as we speak. That recruitment has to go all the way to 2023 when Jokic becomes UFA.

Jokic is so overlooked in Denver. He's the only league MVP in recent years that is overlooked this way. Could be because he's not marketable to young Americans today. Could be his style of play, or both. And I say this because Zion Williamson has more endorsements than Jokic despite achieving way less. And that's probably because kids today prefer mixtapes and youtube dunk highlights.

Jokic has a lot better roster built around him. If that continues Luka going there looks like much more obvious choice.

Jokic is not overlooked, he's a character, who doesn't need and want exposure. I don't even believe that winning championship is first priority for him. He will most likely finish his career in Denver and retire relatively young.

That is the likely scenario. But if Jokic plans to retire relatively young, I also don't see Luka wanting to go to Denver and stay there alone and smoke pot in Colorado.

The thing is, Luka has to get involved in recruitment the same way Lebron does. The obvious answer is to start with his natural market of white Euro boys. Then should they turn him down he can proceed with maybe recruiting guys like Kawhi. A big maybe. If they'll listen to him. Hard to imagine guys like Kawhi listening to a 22 year old at this stage. Especially if they don't have a relationship prior to the call.

[Mr B]

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[41Dirk41]

Adding Dragic at least could make interesting this season...