First Round, Game 4 April 23, 2011: Mavs at Blazers
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I watched the first half, but I had to resort to the box score during the second half, and watching it refresh on my phone. What happened? We had a big lead and suddenly a meltdown?
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why is everyone so scared to call out the refs.
espn did not show a single one of the controversial calls. NOT ONE!
even the Dallas media is to cowardly to bring any of it up. are they scared they will be blackballed by the emperor?
f that sh*t. whenever any other marquee team has a controversial call go against them, ESPN spends all day debating it on all of their crappy shows. for some reason we are not afforded the same respect.
i rewatched the out of bounds play several times. it is clear as freakin day it went off of Wallace's hand. Chandler has been getting targeted ever since McMillan started crying to the media. almost all of his fouls have been questionable. no reason to even discuss the 5th foul. one ref rules and 1 on dirk's drive, he is immediately overruled by the other stupid ref. they screwed us on Kidd's three last game too. why is nobody in the media sticking up for us damnit?!
i've given up on Carlisle. a longgggggggg time ago. but the least he could do on his way out is show spunk and work the refs in our favor. everytime they show him on the sidelines he always looks like a DEAD CORPSE. i hate that it's part of the game, but every coach knows part of the job description is to work the refs to get some calls. he never does it. never. it pissses me off sooooo much. the fact he left stojakovic and barea in the beginning of the 4th in Game 3 was somewhat forgiveable but benching a hot Marion for the entire 4th makes me question his motives and sanity.
if stern ever shows up at AAC again, i swear to everything that is good in this world, i will give him a piece of my mind. even if i get arrested i wouldn't care. the evil son of a b*tch has made me go mad.
espn did not show a single one of the controversial calls. NOT ONE!
even the Dallas media is to cowardly to bring any of it up. are they scared they will be blackballed by the emperor?
f that sh*t. whenever any other marquee team has a controversial call go against them, ESPN spends all day debating it on all of their crappy shows. for some reason we are not afforded the same respect.
i rewatched the out of bounds play several times. it is clear as freakin day it went off of Wallace's hand. Chandler has been getting targeted ever since McMillan started crying to the media. almost all of his fouls have been questionable. no reason to even discuss the 5th foul. one ref rules and 1 on dirk's drive, he is immediately overruled by the other stupid ref. they screwed us on Kidd's three last game too. why is nobody in the media sticking up for us damnit?!
i've given up on Carlisle. a longgggggggg time ago. but the least he could do on his way out is show spunk and work the refs in our favor. everytime they show him on the sidelines he always looks like a DEAD CORPSE. i hate that it's part of the game, but every coach knows part of the job description is to work the refs to get some calls. he never does it. never. it pissses me off sooooo much. the fact he left stojakovic and barea in the beginning of the 4th in Game 3 was somewhat forgiveable but benching a hot Marion for the entire 4th makes me question his motives and sanity.
if stern ever shows up at AAC again, i swear to everything that is good in this world, i will give him a piece of my mind. even if i get arrested i wouldn't care. the evil son of a b*tch has made me go mad.
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basedgod214 wrote:i've given up on Carlisle. a longgggggggg time ago. but the least he could do on his way out is show spunk and work the refs in our favor.
Spot on. Portland's coach McMillan is just as bad but at least that guy turns part of his paycheck in for a nice cooking meal. Carlisle will just put the blame on the team.
Don't mess with the mafiabasedgod214 wrote:if stern ever shows up at AAC again, i swear to everything that is good in this world, i will give him a piece of my mind. even if i get arrested i wouldn't care. the evil son of a b*tch has made me go mad.
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Because Wallace did not even have both his feet on the floor as he was flying under Dirk. Which that would be fine if they called all the offensive fouls Portland had that ended up being blocks on the Mavs. The refs clearly had an agenda against Chandler and the Mavs and anyone who thinks Porland EARNED a win today was clearly not watching the game.The Emcee wrote:<BR itxtNodeId="1098"><BR itxtNodeId="1097">I've seen you post this many times, and I'd just like a clarification as to why the Dirk offensive foul wasn't an offensive foul. Wallace seemed as set as most are when drawing an offensive foul.JES12 wrote:Every single one of those calls on Chandler...including the tech was BS. Just like the offensive foul on Dirk (4th), Barea (1st) etc. when you guys did the same crap and got to the line every single time. There was much more than what I am typing on this post, but for anyone to come over here and act like one foul was all that Portland got away with today is complete and utter display of homerism on your part.<BR itxtNodeId="1100"><BR itxtNodeId="1099">Granted, even with that we got a big lead beacue you were missing tons of shots you normally make and because of that we should have been able to keep the lead (thanks alot Kidd-Terry-Dirk), but the refs definately played their part in this debacle.Brautigan1 wrote:Just so you all know, most real Blazer fans, including myself, understand completely that the late foul on Chandler was BS. I don't like game-deciding BS calls any more than anyone.
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ahonui06 wrote:Blame RC.
Blame Terry.
Give DIRK the ball.
Wouldn't have helped. You see his shooting? You the refs call Dirk for the offensive foul? What would Dirk have done besides jack up another leaner from 20 feet or turn the ball over on a charge call?
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The Emcee wrote:I've seen you post this many times, and I'd just like a clarification as to why the Dirk offensive foul wasn't an offensive foul. Wallace seemed as set as most are when drawing an offensive foul.
99% of the time when an offensive foul is drawn by using your shoulder, it should be a block; it's a clear sign that you were sliding and late. I did not have a problem when Kidd was called for the exact same foul in the third quarter and I expect the refs to be consistent and call it on other cases too. They didn't, and it happened on one of the many deciding plays which made it doubly frustrating.
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Captain_Obvious wrote:Spot on. Portland's coach McMillan is just as bad but at least that guy turns part of his paycheck in for a nice cooking meal. Carlisle will just put the blame on the team.
One thing I'm taking away from this series is that both teams would likely fare better with different coaches. Portland has been educating Western Conference teams about Nate McMillan's coaching "acumen" for 3 consecutive years now: Houston in 2009, Phoenix last year and now Dallas. I can't believe the guy was given some consideration for Coach of the Year. Worse, he's been signed to a 2-year extension.
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HMFFL wrote:I watched the first half, but I had to resort to the box score during the second half, and watching it refresh on my phone. What happened? We had a big lead and suddenly a meltdown?
You can go on Portlands board there is a video made.
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Because it would make no since if you did. It is quite obvious that the refs single handed you game 1 and we did not hear a peep out of you then. Over all and especially after this win i really am enjoying this first round between us. Neither of us has gotten out of the first round it forever so no matter how you look at it , its a win win for the sport. Both are considered underdogs in the playoffs. Good luck and im looking forward to the next 2 games.Re: First Round, Game 4 April 23, 2011: Mavs at Blazers
Postby basedgod214 on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:34 am
why is everyone so scared to call out the refs.
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ahonui06 wrote:Blame RC.
Blame Terry.
Give DIRK the ball.
Blame Terry? Do you think Terry took those shots because he wants and he intentionally didnt give him ball? How childish organization Mavs is !! How old are they? 17yr?
What do you think about " Coaching"? Just clame "lack of energy" after the loss?
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You know what, I understand the issues with the referees.
But I actually think this series is being fairly refereed.
Now, I did not say they have been good (they haven't), but they have been fair (so far).
Someone made a good point on another thread: if you do not dictate the flow of the game and your defense, the referees will do it for you.
The coaching for me is the biggest problem. Insert a better coach, Dallas is up 3-1 or already swept.
Carlisle's biggest issues is making adjustments. He needs everything to go according to game plan (which is good), but when something happens in the course of the game that deviates from that, he does not know how to handle that.
Game 3 was winnable and boy was Game 4.
There are two major issues that he needs to address: center position and guard defense.
If he does not address this, this series will be over for Dallas in 6 games.
He can make a few SIMPLE adjustments, and the Mavs can salvage the series and save his job.
The first adjustment:
1. Start Haywood over Chandler.
Haywood has been SOLID. Chandler is playing as if he has no NBA experience. He is making foolish decisions. As a referee, would you give him a break?
Bring Chandler off the bench. He can still contribute. This will also keep him out of foul trouble.
2. Keep Stevenson in the game longer. He can play defense. Damn his lack of offense. His ability to keep Portland's backcourt in check outweights his scoring.
3. Activate Brewer, PLEASE. Have him chase around Roy.
Last but not least:
4. ISN'T THIS JASON TERRY EXPERIMENT OVER?????
What is this infatuation with this guy?? SO what if he shot well in game 3? He takes away more than he gives. PLEASE FIND A WAY TO KEEP HIM AS CLOSE TO THE BENCH AS POSSIBLE.
Another reason is subtle: THIS WILL FORCE DIRK TO SCORE MORE AND RUN THE OFFENSE MORE.
Those four things (especially # 1 and #4) should be able to secure a Dallas series win.
But I actually think this series is being fairly refereed.
Now, I did not say they have been good (they haven't), but they have been fair (so far).
Someone made a good point on another thread: if you do not dictate the flow of the game and your defense, the referees will do it for you.
The coaching for me is the biggest problem. Insert a better coach, Dallas is up 3-1 or already swept.
Carlisle's biggest issues is making adjustments. He needs everything to go according to game plan (which is good), but when something happens in the course of the game that deviates from that, he does not know how to handle that.
Game 3 was winnable and boy was Game 4.
There are two major issues that he needs to address: center position and guard defense.
If he does not address this, this series will be over for Dallas in 6 games.
He can make a few SIMPLE adjustments, and the Mavs can salvage the series and save his job.
The first adjustment:
1. Start Haywood over Chandler.
Haywood has been SOLID. Chandler is playing as if he has no NBA experience. He is making foolish decisions. As a referee, would you give him a break?
Bring Chandler off the bench. He can still contribute. This will also keep him out of foul trouble.
2. Keep Stevenson in the game longer. He can play defense. Damn his lack of offense. His ability to keep Portland's backcourt in check outweights his scoring.
3. Activate Brewer, PLEASE. Have him chase around Roy.
Last but not least:
4. ISN'T THIS JASON TERRY EXPERIMENT OVER?????
What is this infatuation with this guy?? SO what if he shot well in game 3? He takes away more than he gives. PLEASE FIND A WAY TO KEEP HIM AS CLOSE TO THE BENCH AS POSSIBLE.
Another reason is subtle: THIS WILL FORCE DIRK TO SCORE MORE AND RUN THE OFFENSE MORE.
Those four things (especially # 1 and #4) should be able to secure a Dallas series win.
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The player must sit on the bench is apparently that 5''10 who cant protect the ball with tons of poor shots and giving freedom to Miller.
Barea (27FG% with 12.3FGA, 9.5ppg, 4.7ast, 2.8TO, 0stl/36min and -6 )
JET (48FG% with 12.5FGA, 16.9ppg, 3.8ast, 1.6TO, 1.4stl/36min and +15 )
There is no reason for Barea to play in this PO.
Put that 6''2 only at PG on defence and let him shot only when he is wideopen, And Bareas 19min is going to Brewer and DS. Mavs can be improved significantly only with this move.
Barea (27FG% with 12.3FGA, 9.5ppg, 4.7ast, 2.8TO, 0stl/36min and -6 )
JET (48FG% with 12.5FGA, 16.9ppg, 3.8ast, 1.6TO, 1.4stl/36min and +15 )
There is no reason for Barea to play in this PO.
Put that 6''2 only at PG on defence and let him shot only when he is wideopen, And Bareas 19min is going to Brewer and DS. Mavs can be improved significantly only with this move.
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ASIMO wrote:ahonui06 wrote:Blame RC.
Blame Terry.
Give DIRK the ball.
Blame Terry? Do you think Terry took those shots because he wants and he intentionally didnt give him ball? How childish organization Mavs is !! How old are they? 17yr?
What do you think about " Coaching"? Just clame "lack of energy" after the loss?
That shot with a minute to go was awful. There was still a lot of time on the shot clock and he wasn't even open, he tried to go into hero mode. I'm pretty sure if we just iso'd Dirk twice in a row we would've gotten better quality looks out of it then what Terry and Kidd did.
I'd rather go down because Dirk failed than because Kidd and Terry tried to go into hero mode. Of course it shouldn't have come down to that, but still.
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dyukcs wrote:ASIMO wrote:ahonui06 wrote:Blame RC.
Blame Terry.
Give DIRK the ball.
Blame Terry? Do you think Terry took those shots because he wants and he intentionally didnt give him ball? How childish organization Mavs is !! How old are they? 17yr?
What do you think about " Coaching"? Just clame "lack of energy" after the loss?
That shot with a minute to go was awful. There was still a lot of time on the shot clock and he wasn't even open, he tried to go into hero mode. I'm pretty sure if we just iso'd Dirk twice in a row we would've gotten better quality looks out of it then what Terry and Kidd did.
I'd rather go down because Dirk failed than because Kidd and Terry tried to go into hero mode. Of course it shouldn't have come down to that, but still.
Thanx. Good point. Please check that play again. That play after the TO is exactly what I blame RC. In that play Dirk didnt go inside at all. Never. His job is only Boxout.
Dirk--- Boxout, JET--- 3pt
This is the plan by that idiot. It doenst matter which player Mavs have under that Jump shoot crazy.
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ASIMO wrote:The player must sit on the bench is apparently that 5''10 who cant protect the ball with tons of poor shots and giving freedom to Miller.
There is no reason for Barea to play in this PO.
Again, no disagreements.
But I am getting tired of this nonsense.
Dirk needs to demand the ball more. I need a little more leadership from him. You cannot let Jason Terry decide your future.
All I saw was game 6 of the 2006 finals when Terry took 25 shots and Dirk took only 22. Terry made only 7 of them.
Carlisle is not making the correct coaching decisions.
This is extremely frustrating....
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Dirk needs 25+ shot attempts for game 5.
No more games or fooling around.
Again, I am really BOILING after that loss......
No more games or fooling around.
Again, I am really BOILING after that loss......
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Brooklyn_34 wrote:ASIMO wrote:The player must sit on the bench is apparently that 5''10 who cant protect the ball with tons of poor shots and giving freedom to Miller.
There is no reason for Barea to play in this PO.
Again, no disagreements.
But I am getting tired of this nonsense.
Dirk needs to demand the ball more. I need a little more leadership from him. You cannot let Jason Terry decide your future.
All I saw was game 6 of the 2006 finals when Terry took 25 shots and Dirk took only 22. Terry made only 7 of them.
Carlisle is not making the correct coaching decisions.
This is extremely frustrating....
Couldnt agree with you more.
I really hate to see JET taking tons of shots.
But dont forget. Every player is playing under the coach. No one can shoot freely.
That idiot is asking JET to become the 2nd option for 3 seasons.
I like to use him IF he guards only at PG and takes 11 shots/36min.
If he plays as RC is asking, surely I hate to see that plan by the small basketball crazy .
AND...
Barea takes same FG/min to JET, BUT Barea plays mostly with Dirk(in half of Dirks PT) unlike JET (JET and Kidd play together while Dirk rests through the season). So, think which player is shooting while Dirk is on the court, Barea or Terry. This is exactly on your point, right?
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This is really frustrating.
Dirk really should have bailed when he had the chance-- but he is too loyal a guy.
This is insane.
How can this coach not see these things??
MY GOD.
I will not be surprised if Portland won this series. This is an absolute disgrace.
Dirk really should have bailed when he had the chance-- but he is too loyal a guy.
This is insane.
How can this coach not see these things??
MY GOD.
I will not be surprised if Portland won this series. This is an absolute disgrace.
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peppersquared wrote: Well win this game and win the series in 5 like I said before...
But seriously, good luck in game five. Portland needs to play like they're down 1-3 if they want to pull a win from Dallas on their home court. Looking forward to a nail-biter.
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I wonder if Roddy can help us in this series - if he comes back now from injury.








