Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

[Pinkyring]

Powell didnt opt out they just gave him a three yr extension, why we wanted to be tied to him 4 yrs is beyond me. Nothing about the makeup of this roster makes sense. The fact that we didn't even pursue jimmy butler is beyond me

[J_T]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington

What exactly do you think would be the offer? The usual "GS 2nd and Lee" is not gonna work here. Even Pinky's favorite offer "we don't give them anything, they give us a pick" would probably be rejected. And you know that's a strong one.

[Archx]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington

What exactly do you think would be the offer? The usual "GS 2nd and Lee" is not gonna work here. Even Pinky's favorite offer "we don't give them anything, they give us a pick" would probably be rejected. And you know that's a strong one.

There are days when i wish Pinky and Darren were Mavs two main GM's. Can you imagine how would that go? KP gone within a week, Luka demanding a trade back to Real Madrid... man

[dirkforpres]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington

What exactly do you think would be the offer? The usual "GS 2nd and Lee" is not gonna work here. Even Pinky's favorite offer "we don't give them anything, they give us a pick" would probably be rejected. And you know that's a strong one.

We give them Brunson, Lee, GSW pick, and the 2025 1st

[HMFFL]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington

Covington is in high demand. Philly has been linked to him as of today. That's the top tier teams in the league that want him so it's safe to assume the asking price is high.

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[dirkules_41]

I think they should sign Noah and trade for Covington

Covington is in high demand. Philly has been linked to him as of today. That's the top tier teams in the league that want him so it's safe to assume the asking price is high.

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I agree, I'd say pretty much every team would like to have him.
With that being said I do count us to the top tier teams of the league however sadly we're anything but asset rich. I think trading a FRP 5 years out is a hard no and everything else we have to trade won't be enough I'm afraid.

[JamesConway]

We don't have the assets for Covington. It's pointless to talk about him. The same goes for Bogdanovic.

Malik Beasley is a player I'd try to bring in. Should be a great fit and he doesn't appear to be untouchable for DEN. Young wing, already had a very good three point shooting year, good size, not a bad defender iirc.

Also Dario Saric is a player I'd try to buy low on. Mavs reportedly were interested him back when he was drafted and you can never have too many capable 6'10 guys who can pass/score/shoot. He'd be a great backup for KP and could play alongside him in plenty other lineups.

Both guys are in the last year of their contracts.

[arkuo]

We threw out our assets the day we traded for Porzingis. We just have to let Courtney Lee and THJ's contracts expire first then we can talk about getting more talent in.

If Cuban decides to pay THJ for his resurgence, then that's pretty much our team going forward. Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes. That essentially would mean this is the exact team he plans to compete with for the next few years. And Luka is no Dirk. The kid will go to the highest bidder and sure knows how to sell himself well to suitors. He was able to pull it off with his massive shoe deal, and all the more for his next contract (pressumably a supermax). And a supermax is paralyzing for teams in a sense that it prevents you from signing other players going forward.

[dirkules_41]

I think our shopping list should be any athletic defensive big and/or any 3&D type wing who poses an upgrade over what we have. I don't believe we have the assets to get another creator at this stage.

[J_T]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

[Archx]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

And all those contracts would be worth like 5M per year for those players 10 years ago. People are forgetting that new CBA inflated all contracts. Which means all these players, maybe even THJ if he keeps performing like this, are really really decent contracts for role players and are not expensive at all.

Trading away guys like Maxi and Curry would be one of the dumbest things this franchise could do anyway. This team is KP or Drummond away from getting back to being top5 team in the west. You can't ask for more at this point. Luka is still only 20yo, so there is still a huge window for this franchise to become a legit contender.

[daoneandonly]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

And all those contracts would be worth like 5M per year for those players 10 years ago. People are forgetting that new CBA inflated all contracts. Which means all these players, maybe even THJ if he keeps performing like this, are really really decent contracts for role players and are not expensive at all.

Trading away guys like Maxi and Curry would be one of the dumbest things this franchise could do anyway. This team is KP or Drummond away from getting back to being top5 team in the west. You can't ask for more at this point. Luka is still only 20yo, so there is still a huge window for this franchise to become a legit contender.

I think of those only the Powell contract is a big overpay. THJ obviously, but we had to take him to get KP. Powell did not have to eb extended when we did, and surely not for what was given.

[arkuo]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

I meant that in a sense that Powell, Maxi, Wright and Seth's contracts all run for around 3 years. So essentially that's the core Cuban will roll the dice with for the immediate future. With KP having a 5 year max, plus Luka's supermax looming in the horizon, that's essentially THE team moving forward. Especially with Luka's supermax in the equation, there's really no more space. Even moreso if Cuban plans to extend THJ for another 3 years.

[Darren]

We threw out our assets the day we traded for Porzingis. We just have to let Courtney Lee and THJ's contracts expire first then we can talk about getting more talent in.

If Cuban decides to pay THJ for his resurgence, then that's pretty much our team going forward. Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes. That essentially would mean this is the exact team he plans to compete with for the next few years. And Luka is no Dirk. The kid will go to the highest bidder and sure knows how to sell himself well to suitors. He was able to pull it off with his massive shoe deal, and all the more for his next contract (pressumably a supermax). And a supermax is paralyzing for teams in a sense that it prevents you from signing other players going forward.

I think TH is perfectly fine as a 3D player. For comparison, Hardaway plays better defense than Barnes and shoots well from the arc more consistently as a Mavs player.

Powell is movable.
Kleber is a keeper.
Curry is a question mark.
Wright is headscratching at times.

I think the Mavs does a poor job in offseason acquisition. Only Kleber and DFS makes perfect sense. For the rest, things could be a bit disadvantage for the team moving forward. I want to move Wright, Brunson, Jackson with perhaps Curry and Powell as well by deadline. Of course, if Hardaway is movable, the Mavs should also entertain offers. Just get players who fits the team direction and needs. I highly consider Morris and Ntilikina from NYK and unload some contracts for pick. The Mavs gets instant help and long-term flexibility from this kind of trade. There's not much reputated defender outside from lottery. I am fine moving 2025 1st or 2020 2nd for this kind of opportunities. Not to mention that the Mavs could be major buyer in 2020 offseason pool.

[JamesConway]

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Haven't listened into the original report but a few Mavs-bloggers are already talking about it. Windhorst has a podcast he does regularly.

[J_T]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

I meant that in a sense that Powell, Maxi, Wright and Seth's contracts all run for around 3 years. So essentially that's the core Cuban will roll the dice with for the immediate future. With KP having a 5 year max, plus Luka's supermax looming in the horizon, that's essentially THE team moving forward. Especially with Luka's supermax in the equation, there's really no more space. Even moreso if Cuban plans to extend THJ for another 3 years.

Sure, Mavs are set, although trades can happen. Even if THJ is extended, he will be extended to a contract that is easier to trade.
As for supermax, a potential supermax is long down the road, not worth thinking too much about it at the moment. And at that time, around 2016, Luka might take less than supermax, who knows.

[Archx]

Overpaying for Powell, Kleber, Curry, Wright and possibly re-signing THJ back with that same contract will be one of Cuban's bigger mistakes.

I don't think any of those are really mistakes or necessarily overpayments. The contracts that Mavs have given to those players are easily tradable, unlike for example THJ's or Lee's. If Mavs want to trade Curry away, they can do that easily. As much as Powell is being criticized, I think he would get suitors as a free agent and get the same money.

I meant that in a sense that Powell, Maxi, Wright and Seth's contracts all run for around 3 years. So essentially that's the core Cuban will roll the dice with for the immediate future. With KP having a 5 year max, plus Luka's supermax looming in the horizon, that's essentially THE team moving forward. Especially with Luka's supermax in the equation, there's really no more space. Even moreso if Cuban plans to extend THJ for another 3 years.

Curry, Powell, Wright, Seth.. that's not a core, those are role players. Luka and KP are core. So in hindsight, Mavs have a ton of room for improvement on the roster as well. If they can add Drummond, a core of Luka, KP and Drummond would be quite good. Then you just have to add guys like Covington to further strengthen your defense and you have something there.

[arkuo]

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Haven't listened into the original report but a few Mavs-bloggers are already talking about it. Windhorst has a podcast he does regularly.

Windhorst's batting average for Mavs' news is pretty low. Although getting RoCo is a move I can get behind of. Same goes for other teams who are interested with his services.

IMO he can play PF here with KP at center. Minny needs a point guard so I think if it were to at least be considered by Minny, it would have to be a package centered around Wright + Jackson + GSW 2nd round pick.

[JamesConway]

Sam Amick in the Drummond-segment of his latest article:

"Boston and Dallas, it's worth noting here at the top, are known to be looking for a big"

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[arkuo]

Sam Amick in the Drummond-segment of his latest article:

"Boston and Dallas, it's worth noting here at the top, are known to be looking for a big"

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If we're one of the top candidates for Drummond by next week, it would be very telling that Carlisle expect Porzingis to be out for a while and geting Drummond can salvage the season for a playoff run.

Nobody outside of that Mavs inner circle knows what's up with KP. and Cuban has kept a very tight lid on that even to Woj. Getting more talent in is always welcome news, but that also means KP will be out for a while for whatever reason. And if he comes back he'll probably play only under 20 mins a game after this scare. under 20 mins is essentially an NBA backup role.