2020 NBA Draft Discussion (18th and 31st pick)

[Heezzi]

Vassell at 14 .... Brunson + # 31 do

That would do it for me, but I doubt you could find a dance partner for that trade.

I'm not sure, maybe Kings if they blow everything up ... I could be interested in more draft picks And a young, good, cheap guard in Brunson to pair with Fox
Brunson / Jackson / # 18 / # 31/2 Future
for Bjelica / # 12
we bring back burk
e we wrote Vassell
or since we dream ..... Okoro
Luka/Burke
Curry/Thj/(Fa Bazemore)?
Dfs/Okoro or Vassell
Bjelica/Maxi
Kp/(Fa Boucher)?

Kings are not trading Jackson back.

[ejs78]

http://mavsdraft.com/

I could live with Green and Tyler Bey. Helps with the D and makes the team more athletic.

This website does great work.

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[dirkforpres]

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This is good. Start making calls early and often. This draft sucks anyway

[ejs78]

Interesting

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[fuller4379]

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This is good. Start making calls early and often. This draft sucks anyway

This draft is hard to judge to me because I didn't get to see if anyone was going to excel in the tournament. It is going to be rather boring since we are a middle pick in the draft. I miss the excitement of 2018 when I think we were going to be stuck with Bamba as the 5th pick in a four star draft, but traded up for Luka. Donnie Nelson and the front office have earned a free pass from me for the next couple years by being able to acquire Luka and KP. The Mavs went from possibly a slow, painful rebuild to a perennial playoff team in a period of six months.

[dirkforpres]

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This is good. Start making calls early and often. This draft sucks anyway

This draft is hard to judge to me because I didn't get to see if anyone was going to excel in the tournament. It is going to be rather boring since we are a middle pick in the draft. I miss the excitement of 2018 when I think we were going to be stuck with Bamba as the 5th pick in a four star draft, but traded up for Luka. Donnie Nelson and the front office have earned a free pass from me for the next couple years by being able to acquire Luka and KP. The Mavs went from possibly a slow, painful rebuild to a perennial playoff team in a period of six months.

Well I’m not sure what all 18 and 31 can get us, but you’re right we just have to trust Donnie. He’s a magician with trades.

I’d love for Dallas to at least make calls on Markkanen, Wendell, and Bamba/Fournier

[JJP]

This is a ridiculous tweet. Making it "available" is meaningless. A mid-round pick is almost always available for a price.

That said, this looks like a draft night where trades will be made, so the Mavs might find a partner. I wouldn't say the odds are good, but there might be more opportunities on this draft night than others.

[ejs78]

This is a ridiculous tweet. Making it "available" is meaningless. A mid-round pick is almost always available for a price.

That said, this looks like a draft night where trades will be made, so the Mavs might find a partner. I wouldn't say the odds are good, but there might be more opportunities on this draft night than others.

https://youtu.be/U1hESK-JTe0

Then you have Cuban saying they might buy picks

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[JJP]

I think that it's likely that the Mavs would prefer some veteran presence in the lineup, so there could be something to it in that sense. Teams like Houston (no picks in this draft) and Memphis (one second-round pick) might be looking for something.

[swaggerbox]

the Mavs are at it again, making draft picks available like they're peanuts. Shades of the Rudy Fernandez' deal? they should be collecting assets not get rid of them.

[JJP]

the Mavs are at it again, making draft picks available like they're peanuts. Shades of the Rudy Fernandez' deal? they should be collecting assets not get rid of them.

Well it depends. You'd like to have someone who can contribute during a 4-5 year window of time, and this team is mostly young with unproven players - so the need for a veteran is understandable. Plus, we have a variety of needs.

I just don't know how easy it would be to find the right partner on draft night.

[Teffer10]

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This is good. Start making calls early and often. This draft sucks anyway

This draft is hard to judge to me because I didn't get to see if anyone was going to excel in the tournament. It is going to be rather boring since we are a middle pick in the draft. I miss the excitement of 2018 when I think we were going to be stuck with Bamba as the 5th pick in a four star draft, but traded up for Luka. Donnie Nelson and the front office have earned a free pass from me for the next couple years by being able to acquire Luka and KP. The Mavs went from possibly a slow, painful rebuild to a perennial playoff team in a period of six months.

Well I’m not sure what all 18 and 31 can get us, but you’re right we just have to trust Donnie. He’s a magician with trades.

I’d love for Dallas to at least make calls on Markkanen, Wendell, and Bamba/Fournier

What about Portis?
I don't know or hear too much about him but wondering if he might be a target. Has good size, is long, decent 3pt shooter, and is young.
Perhaps Knicks don't want to move him but they do have Randal tied up for several years. Maybe we don't want him, I don't know about his defense.

[JJP]

What about Portis?
I don't know or hear too much about him but wondering if he might be a target. Has good size, is long, decent 3pt shooter, and is young.
Perhaps Knicks don't want to move him but they do have Randal tied up for several years. Maybe we don't want him, I don't know about his defense.

Portis is a whole lot of untapped potential. However, he's been given chances with three teams and almost all of them decided to pass on him. He's had fights with teammates, so he may just be a bit of a head case. I'm not sure you want to put that guy with this current Mavs roster.

[Teffer10]

What about Portis?
I don't know or hear too much about him but wondering if he might be a target. Has good size, is long, decent 3pt shooter, and is young.
Perhaps Knicks don't want to move him but they do have Randal tied up for several years. Maybe we don't want him, I don't know about his defense.

Portis is a whole lot of untapped potential. However, he's been given chances with three teams and almost all of them decided to pass on him. He's had fights with teammates, so he may just be a bit of a head case. I'm not sure you want to put that guy with this current Mavs roster.

Mavs need some attitude and toughness on this team and he might bring some of that.
Rick has had some success with some players with attitude (SJax, Stevenson, Artest) but some bad experiences as well (Odom, Rondo, Noel, West) so it could be risky to add him to this roster.
I've heard Rick say that it is good to have a tough guy on the roster but not sure he'd be the right one.

So would #18/#31/Wright/Jackson for Portis/#27 be a fair deal?

[dirkforpres]

This draft is hard to judge to me because I didn't get to see if anyone was going to excel in the tournament. It is going to be rather boring since we are a middle pick in the draft. I miss the excitement of 2018 when I think we were going to be stuck with Bamba as the 5th pick in a four star draft, but traded up for Luka. Donnie Nelson and the front office have earned a free pass from me for the next couple years by being able to acquire Luka and KP. The Mavs went from possibly a slow, painful rebuild to a perennial playoff team in a period of six months.

Well I’m not sure what all 18 and 31 can get us, but you’re right we just have to trust Donnie. He’s a magician with trades.

I’d love for Dallas to at least make calls on Markkanen, Wendell, and Bamba/Fournier

What about Portis?
I don't know or hear too much about him but wondering if he might be a target. Has good size, is long, decent 3pt shooter, and is young.
Perhaps Knicks don't want to move him but they do have Randal tied up for several years. Maybe we don't want him, I don't know about his defense.

Doesn’t really do it for me. His ex-teammate and former fight companion Nikola Mirotic though would be nice

[ejs78]

We actually have the 4th oldest roster in the league;

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/11/youngest-oldest-nba-rosters-for-201920.html

Keep the picks and see what Luka can turn them into.

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[JJP]

We actually have the 4th oldest roster in the league;

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/11/youngest-oldest-nba-rosters-for-201920.html

Keep the picks and see what Luka can turn them into.

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That's pretty odd since the only players over 30 are Barea (36), Lee (34) and Marjanovic (32).

All 15 other players are under 30.

The current starting rotation is Luca (21), KP (25) Hardaway (28) Curry (29) and Kleber (28)

When we won the championship in 2011, I think the entire starting lineup was over 30.

[ejs78]

My whole isssue is this team isn't very athletic which is why I want to keep the picks for guys like Green. They don't pan out move them and on cheap deals.

We actually have the 4th oldest roster in the league;

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/11/youngest-oldest-nba-rosters-for-201920.html

Keep the picks and see what Luka can turn them into.

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That's pretty odd since the only players over 30 are Barea (36), Lee (34) and Marjanovic (32).

All 15 other players are under 30.

The current starting rotation is Luca (21), KP (25) Hardaway (28) Curry (29) and Kleber (28)

When we won the championship in 2011, I think the entire starting lineup was over 30.

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[arkuo]

This is a ridiculous tweet. Making it "available" is meaningless. A mid-round pick is almost always available for a price.

That said, this looks like a draft night where trades will be made, so the Mavs might find a partner. I wouldn't say the odds are good, but there might be more opportunities on this draft night than others.

https://youtu.be/U1hESK-JTe0

Then you have Cuban saying they might buy picks

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- Cuban buys mid 1st rounder
- Trades said 1st rounder + #18 for say, #10.
- Trade #10, #31, Powell, THJ, Wright, Brunson, Curry for Horford + SImmons
- Sign Duncan Robinson in 2021. Forego Giannis when you have Simmons. Similar skillset

Surely Simmons at PF cant be worse than Maxi. League leader in steals would boost our defensive presence. At 6'10 Ben can guard Kawhi or PG. And he can be a secondary playmaker so Luka doesnt need to run PG for every play as the case is now. Horford is the penalty we take in for them to agree (comparable to THJ + Lee when we got KP)

C- Porzingis / Horford
PF- Simmons / Kleber
SF- Finney Smith / Jackson
SG- Robinson / MLE (2020)
PG - Doncic / Burke

That's a team that can compete now. Elton Brand and Donnie have a good relationship. When the playoffs wrap up I expect Donnie to give him a call. Due diligence.

PS- That possible Porzingis - Simmons two man game would be ridiculous. KP shoots 40 footers, Simmons can move faster than any 6'10 dude in the NBA not named Giannis. His playmaking preserves Luka for end game situations too. Gives him time to rest from PG duties from time to time.

[arkuo]

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This is good. Start making calls early and often. This draft sucks anyway

This draft is hard to judge to me because I didn't get to see if anyone was going to excel in the tournament. It is going to be rather boring since we are a middle pick in the draft. I miss the excitement of 2018 when I think we were going to be stuck with Bamba as the 5th pick in a four star draft, but traded up for Luka. Donnie Nelson and the front office have earned a free pass from me for the next couple years by being able to acquire Luka and KP. The Mavs went from possibly a slow, painful rebuild to a perennial playoff team in a period of six months.

Well I’m not sure what all 18 and 31 can get us, but you’re right we just have to trust Donnie. He’s a magician with trades.

I’d love for Dallas to at least make calls on Markkanen, Wendell, and Bamba/Fournier

The trade to win now concept concerns me a bit. On one hand I'd like for them to be patient and do the rebuild right. On the other end of the spectrum you see Philly who rushed their rebuild and signed Tobias Harris and Al Horford to $235M combined. They smelled blood, thought they were sure to win a ring, now their capped out and facing a 1st round exit. Coach might be fired and they look like they need to blow their team up. One of Simmons or Embiid is sure to go.