Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Michaellam1987]

The 1st apron issue would be less of an issue if Nico never did that darn Martin for Grimes swap. Heck we'd even have the 35th pick in the draft. Good chance now we trade a key player (like Gaff or PJ) just to get under since Martin is negative value and no one would want him.

Yes, I'm still salty about that trade

Grimes trade was absolute disaster because Martin simply doesn't fit and looks totally washed. On top of that, he has a multi year contract lol... Would have been better if he just let Grimes walk for nothing and that would be -9M off the salary cap already. But on the other hand, his agent demanded a trade so Nico probably took the 1st dumbest offer he could find.

Give some more time to Martin, I believe he is better than what is shown.

[Maverick41]

In an ideal world, we keep Gaff, PJ and everyone we like and just keep building from there. Realistically, they will both want a new contract (and likely a larger one) and at this moment, we already up against the 2nd apron. At least one of them needs to be traded or you will be looking at losing at least one of them (or heck even both) for nothing in free agency.

If I'm choosing, I'm choosing PJ over Gaff. I value big wings over backup bigs. Especially in our situation where our best player (AD) plays his best at that same position (Center).

[Mavrelous]

PJ is obviousely better than Gafford, I'd argue he should be kept over AD, Flagg, PJ, Lively should be the frontcourt for the next 5 years, and backups behind them.

[arkuo]

I think Dumont and Adelson need to shoulder the tax bill even if it goes into the 2nd apron. Let's go for a finals run the reassess what contracts need to be let go. We cant penny pinch even before going into it. We can penny pinch after. Like what Boston is doing.

[Captain_Obvious]

When the Lakers move on from Gabe Vincent for a center I'd like us to make a play for him with Martin and 2nd rounders

Good defender, can handle the ball, good shooter

It wouldnt surprise me if Vincent is the main return in a Gafford to LA deal.

Vincent/Hayes/2031 for Gafford would not surprise me one bit. I'll be shocked if Gafford isnt a Laker at the beginning of next season and we'll somehow get screwed again.

I would take that actually - that pick would likely be heavily protected though (lottery/top10). Still, decent value.

[arkuo]

When the Lakers move on from Gabe Vincent for a center I'd like us to make a play for him with Martin and 2nd rounders

Good defender, can handle the ball, good shooter

It wouldnt surprise me if Vincent is the main return in a Gafford to LA deal.

Vincent/Hayes/2031 for Gafford would not surprise me one bit. I'll be shocked if Gafford isnt a Laker at the beginning of next season and we'll somehow get screwed again.

I would take that actually - that pick would likely be heavily protected though (lottery/top10). Still, decent value.

High likelihood Mavs don't trade with the Lakers this soon. However, if it's on the table, Vincent + Knecht + 2031 1st looks okay for Gaff.

[41Dirk41]

Why people still want to help Lakers? are you masochists? Was Gift them Luka not enough?

Their roster is full of overrated trash. Let them failure again next year or trade their assets for a risky Mark Williams.

Reaves is not trash and we could use his offense.
He is overrated, but would be a win for us

Reaves will search a 25+M contract next year... No thanks.

The next Jordan Poole

[41Dirk41]

It wouldnt surprise me if Vincent is the main return in a Gafford to LA deal.

Vincent/Hayes/2031 for Gafford would not surprise me one bit. I'll be shocked if Gafford isnt a Laker at the beginning of next season and we'll somehow get screwed again.

I would take that actually - that pick would likely be heavily protected though (lottery/top10). Still, decent value.

High likelihood Mavs don't trade with the Lakers this soon. However, if it's on the table, Vincent + Knecht + 2031 1st looks okay for Gaff.

Agree.

If it's a robbey so ok, trade with the Lakers otherwise no thanks, leave them burn in the hell with LeBron James.

[arkuo]

Why people still want to help Lakers? are you masochists? Was Gift them Luka not enough?

Their roster is full of overrated trash. Let them failure again next year or trade their assets for a risky Mark Williams.

Reaves is not trash and we could use his offense.
He is overrated, but would be a win for us

Reaves will search a 25+M contract next year... No thanks.

The next Jordan Poole

Reaves will be the new THJ of the NBA when that 4 year $100M hits. Nasty.

[Maverick41]

Stein mentioned Lonzo Ball as an interesting name to keep on the radar. He was also rumored in the TDL before CHI decided to extend him instead.

I'd like his fit here. My only worry is Kidd playing him way too much and his knees fall off.

[arkuo]

One podcast mentioned the possibility of the Mavs holding Lakers "hostage" the same way Kawhi forced the Clippers to trade the farm for PG13 a few years ago. The Clippers traded SGA and a boatload of picks just to please Kawhi. Lakers are in the same position catering to Luka and are desperate to get a center. Milk that thing. Gafford for 3 first rounders! LOL

[arkuo]

Brogdon looks even slower in 2025. If willing to accept a 1 year minimum deal, D'Angelo Russell makes a lot of sense. Just make him 6th man when Kyrie comes back.

I think D'Lo is good enough to play for that stretch that Kyrie is out. Let the Lakers be the ones to pay Reaves his $25M. Reaves for 25 and Luka's 70M is close to already half the cap space and that's just for 2 players. Lakers are just wasting Luka's time. 4 years until Luka hits 30. They are on the clock to build him a championship contender all while Bron is stat padding his way to records. Tick tock.

[Mavrelous]

Guys, let's not turn this into Twitter.
Reaves is a good starting guard, Lakers aren't trading him, and Mavs would be lucky to have him.
Gafford isn't a leverage piece, Lively is, and he should be untouchable.

[arkuo]

Guys, let's not turn this into Twitter.
Reaves is a good starting guard, Lakers aren't trading him, and Mavs would be lucky to have him.
Gafford isn't a leverage piece, Lively is, and he should be untouchable.

Yeah. Getting Flagg just made Lively untouchable. Flagg and Lively will be the team's future.

[Michaellam1987]

I think Dumont and Adelson need to shoulder the tax bill even if it goes into the 2nd apron. Let's go for a finals run the reassess what contracts need to be let go. We cant penny pinch even before going into it. We can penny pinch after. Like what Boston is doing.

Our new owner is very rich, if money is not their main concern, tax bill will never matter to them, the problem is that when you are over 2nd apron, there is TONS of limitation on what you can do, have a quick study on it, you will know what I am saying.

[Michaellam1987]

It wouldnt surprise me if Vincent is the main return in a Gafford to LA deal.

Vincent/Hayes/2031 for Gafford would not surprise me one bit. I'll be shocked if Gafford isnt a Laker at the beginning of next season and we'll somehow get screwed again.

I would take that actually - that pick would likely be heavily protected though (lottery/top10). Still, decent value.

High likelihood Mavs don't trade with the Lakers this soon. However, if it's on the table, Vincent + Knecht + 2031 1st looks okay for Gaff.

Knecht + #1 (assume it is lottery protected) is too much for Gafford. LAL will decline

[daoneandonly]

I like Gaf fa lot, full of energy and does what's asked of him. But as unreliable as D-Live has been to stay on the court, if Gaff has value to get us missing pieces, we have to pull the trigger.

I'd say the team shopuld trade all of these guys

Anthony Davis - just too unreliable to justify his deal, with Kyrie out AD is just stealing money here. Can still probably return value and the starting forwards should be Flagg and Washington

Klay Thompson - should have never promised him the starting role, should have been included in the Luka trade for Reaves, why is this dud still here?

Daniel Gafford - mostly because of all the guys that have trade value, he's the most expendable

Caleb Martin - no real need for this guy with Naji and Christie

Jaden Hardy - just sucks

Dwight Powell - the ship has sailed on his leadership and importance here

[arkuo]

Does Jordan Poole appeal to any of you guys?

[Archx]

Does Jordan Poole appeal to any of you guys?

Wouldn't fit "defense wins championship" culture probably. Plus he's boneheaded like THJ or even worse.

[Teffer10]

Guys, let's not turn this into Twitter.
Reaves is a good starting guard, Lakers aren't trading him, and Mavs would be lucky to have him.
Gafford isn't a leverage piece, Lively is, and he should be untouchable.

Yeah, the Reaves bashing is a head scratcher for me.
Coop/Lively/Reaves/Christie and whatever we could get from an AD trade would be a nice core to start the rebuild process when the wheels fall off this thing by the TDL.