Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[deb]

Haters… Every time a small piece of news comes out y’all use it to rip this team apart. Lol. Are you all secretly Spurs fans? What happens when this team is successful? Do y’all walk all of this back?

I would personally be delighted to eat crow. I just don't see it...

[JJP]

Haters… Every time a small piece of news comes out y’all use it to rip this team apart. Lol. Are you all secretly Spurs fans? What happens when this team is successful? Do y’all walk all of this back?

I would personally be delighted to eat crow. I just don't see it...

I'm not sure anyone would include you in that. There's valid criticism and then there's whining. I don't think very many people are at all happy with free agency.... but that doesn't mean we have to listen to someone post "Mark Cuban needs to sell the team" or "No Free Agent is coming to come to Dallas because of Mark Cuban"... or "Doncic is gone in year three" or any snide remark that sounds like a 10-year old.

I can complain all day about poor drafting and front office stupidity, but I don't make it my favorite sandbox to play in. Even If Dragic makes it to this year's first game as a Maverick, it's nothing to write home about. But I'm still a Mavericks fan and I love watching Doncic. I don't get either one of those things from half-a-dozen posters here.

[HMFFL]

This trade just occurred buy I would like for us to pursue Sekou Doumbouya now.



James Edwards III: The Pistons are trading Sekou Doumbouya and Jahlil Okafor to the Nets for four seconds, cash and DeAndre Jordan, who Detroit is planning to buyout, sources tell The Athletic.

 

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[Mr B]

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[Bob8]

Haters… Every time a small piece of news comes out y’all use it to rip this team apart. Lol. Are you all secretly Spurs fans? What happens when this team is successful? Do y’all walk all of this back?

What is your definition of success? Is it getting out of the first round? Do you really honestly believe that this team improved enough to do so?

The Mavs didn’t address paint defense or rebounding at all, which was their Achilles heel all last season. Dragic may help the team win games, but I have trouble envisioning a world in which the Mavs don’t just give up countless PITP or offensive rebounds to the opposing teams

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

Mavs have Luka and that's more or less it, if KP doesn't preform miraculous comeback. I believe people in organisation, who are very well paid, should do their job the same like players in the court. And they were very bad in last years.

[JJP]

What is your definition of success? Is it getting out of the first round? Do you really honestly believe that this team improved enough to do so?

The Mavs didn’t address paint defense or rebounding at all, which was their Achilles heel all last season. Dragic may help the team win games, but I have trouble envisioning a world in which the Mavs don’t just give up countless PITP or offensive rebounds to the opposing teams

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

It's called the "Mavs off-season. what do we do from here" It isn't called, "Everything the Mavs did sucks" and then repeat that same narrative in every post.

I'm not telling you what you should write, I'm telling you it's whining.

I wouldn't worry about it. If someone leaves it will probably be me.

[Bob8]

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

It's called the "Mavs off-season. what do we do from here" It isn't called, "Everything the Mavs did sucks" and then repeat that same same narrative in every post.

I'm not telling you what you should write, I'm telling you it's whining.

I wouldn't worry about it. If someone leaves it will probably be me.

And we have written many times what should they do.

1. You cannot start the season with only 1 true Pg in the roster.

2. If you don't have defensive C and you're killed in almost every game because of it, you should try to find one.

3. You should add some talent sooner than later. Bullock looks solid, but that's just too little for last 3 years.

4. Look at this year's roster and roster few years back. Where is improvement? Take Luka out and they can compete for no.1 pick in next year draft.

Is this whining or maybe Mavs management is doing extremely poor job? Should we be satisfied with their job?

[JJP]

True.

I can certainly testify that you have written that exact same thing many times.

I think the Mavs front office has done an especially poor job the last 2-3 years too, but I don't have to repeat it every chance I get. And there's a new coach and new front office now. I have no idea how that plays out, but I hope it plays out well. I'm not a Kidd fan, but I'm not going to pre-judge this until I see a product of the court.

This is a new system. There may be a new KP. There are two guys here who have a history of hitting 3-point shots. You get to watch what arguably is the best player in the NBA (if you have cable). But those 4 things you listed above ...are pretty much the only cards in your deck.

[Bob8]

True.

I can certainly testify that you have written that exact same thing many times.

I think the Mavs front office has done an especially poor job the last 2-3 years too, but I don't have to repeat it every chance I get. And there's a new coach and new front office now. I have no idea how that plays out, but I hope it plays out well. I'm not a Kidd fan, but I'm not going to pre-judge this until I see a product of the court.

This is a new system. There may be a new KP. There are two guys here who have a history of hitting 3-point shots. You get to watch what arguably is the best player in the NBA (if you have cable). But those 4 things you listed above ...are pretty much the only cards in your deck.

We're talking about offseason here. Not how good is Luka or how KP might look. We don't talk about how good Kidd might look as Mavs coach. We don't talk about new system before we see it. But we for sure can talk about new additions or better to say lack of them. And I specifically said today, that possible addition of Dragic could be very important for Mavs.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Off season is about getting other players to playhere without getting trapped into a situation where all you can do is make minimal moves due to financial constraints. This is not a problem if you have a top team because you have so much talent everyone considers you a top contender.

We have 2 pieces to the puzzle or 1 and a maybe if you are not willing to think of KP as being a piece until he shows he has recovered adequately enough to do the job.

Additions
Bullock
Brown
Brown
2 end of the roster rookies at PG and SF/PF 6'4 and 6'6" each respectively speaking.
And maybe Onu gets to do something that earns him a spot if he can show something in Frisco or preseason that makes him look like he can contribute.

[LAL1947]

This trade just occurred buy I would like for us to pursue Sekou Doumbouya now.

James Edwards III: The Pistons are trading Sekou Doumbouya and Jahlil Okafor to the Nets for four seconds, cash and DeAndre Jordan, who Detroit is planning to buyout, sources tell The Athletic.

– via Twitter JLEdwardsIII

Haha, you beat me to it. I just saw this in the General section and came over to post the same thing about Sekou too.

If Sekou will be made available, I think it might be a good gamble. A mobile PF who is bigger than DFS is a position of need in Dallas. Sekou has the physical tools but is lacking the mental, which is not helped by his entourage from France (or so I've seen fans on other Detroit forums say). Jason Kidd's tough-love approach might be exactly what Sekou needs. He could end up busting completely... or turned into a useful player or a better trade asset than what currently exists.

Btw, that is an amazing deal for the 2nd round picks, don't they usually go for $3-5m each? Someone posted that the cost of the 2nds in this deal works out to only $2.5-3m for all 4 picks in total. Soon as I saw the details, it made me wish the Mavs' FO had made a similar deal with Detroit using Powell instead, since the team is short on draft capital.

[LAL1947]

Haters… Every time a small piece of news comes out y’all use it to rip this team apart. Lol. Are you all secretly Spurs fans? What happens when this team is successful? Do y’all walk all of this back?

Not sure if you mean me. I want Luka to win as many rings as he can. It would be very nice if he is able to end his career with as many as Jordan. To do that, he needs to start winning early, especially in this era of super-teams and stacked-teams. Just because he is young doesn't mean the FO should not feel a lack of urgency... and their moves have mostly sucked or have been non-existent. If they give me something, anything... I'll pull out the pom-poms.

[Pinkyring]

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He's still better than kleber

[DallasMFFL]

Do y’all walk all of this back?

The Mavs didn’t address paint defense or rebounding at all, which was their Achilles heel all last season. Dragic may help the team win games, but I have trouble envisioning a world in which the Mavs don’t just give up countless PITP or offensive rebounds to the opposing teams

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

Yes, exactly. I’m not making a prediction about their success, but staying optimistic until I see otherwise. JJP said it best. They haven’t played a single game and you already hate them. We haven’t even given Nico a full season and you are already writing him off. He’s been there two months. We had a tumultuous offseason. It’s not easy to get rid of the franchise all time leading coach and the GM that brought Dirk on, but it was time. Let’s see what happens trade-wise during the year. It just sounds like y’all despise this team.


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[DallasMFFL]

What is your definition of success? Is it getting out of the first round? Do you really honestly believe that this team improved enough to do so?

The Mavs didn’t address paint defense or rebounding at all, which was their Achilles heel all last season. Dragic may help the team win games, but I have trouble envisioning a world in which the Mavs don’t just give up countless PITP or offensive rebounds to the opposing teams

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

Mavs have Luka and that's more or less it, if KP doesn't preform miraculous comeback. I believe people in organisation, who are very well paid, should do their job the same like players in the court. And they were very bad in last years.

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[DallasMFFL]

What is your definition of success? Is it getting out of the first round? Do you really honestly believe that this team improved enough to do so?

The Mavs didn’t address paint defense or rebounding at all, which was their Achilles heel all last season. Dragic may help the team win games, but I have trouble envisioning a world in which the Mavs don’t just give up countless PITP or offensive rebounds to the opposing teams

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

Mavs have Luka and that's more or less it, if KP doesn't preform miraculous comeback. I believe people in organisation, who are very well paid, should do their job the same like players in the court. And they were very bad in last years.

The name of this thread is “what do we do from here?” In other words what are some good moves that will make this team better. Future tense not complain about the past. I can start a thread about “what went wrong in the past” if you want. Again, you mention the people of the organization and we just changed out major people in the organization. And also, I agree with you getting Dragic will be good for the team but will not win them a championship. There we agree on something.


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[Bob8]

The problem is you're complaining and the season hasn't started yet. Not a game has been played. The roster may not even be finalized.

And I'm not sure I'm actually referring to you or other people because there's just so many of you.

The name of this thread is Mavs off-season. What should we talk about here, if not how we feel about this offseason? If they bring Dragic, I will see this offseason as solid, because Mavs will address the biggest need. If not, it will be bad offseason for me. What's is wrong with that? Who are you or a guy, who called us haters, to tell us what should we write here?

Mavs have Luka and that's more or less it, if KP doesn't preform miraculous comeback. I believe people in organisation, who are very well paid, should do their job the same like players in the court. And they were very bad in last years.

The name of this thread is “what do we do from here?” In other words what are some good moves that will make this team better. Future tense not complain about the past. I can start a thread about “what went wrong in the past” if you want. Again, you mention the people of the organization and we just changed out major people in the organization. And also, I agree with you getting Dragic will be good for the team but will not win them a championship. There we agree on something.


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We for sure don't agree about calling people haters for no reason.

Yes, we have new management but this year's moves, at least for now, looks very similar to previous years. Last year's hope was on Richardson, Johnson and some rookies, this year is on Bullock and S.Brown. And I don't even want to mention Kidd, who looks step back in comparison to RC. Sorry for my lack of enthusiasm, but I don't believe that Bullock, S.Brown and Kidd are the right and good enough answers for Mavs troubles. Luka is the only reason for this team looking solid, like would have looked every team in the world with him.

[41Dirk41]

Bullock and the Brownies are a good FA if you are already a contender and a top club, in our situation they are peanuts.
Maybe Dragic can save the day but we needed a mini revolution and Cuban wasted another year.

I hope they are focused on some moves at mid of the season when some star could be available.

[Mavrelous]

Mavs need another scorer, and there are some who may become available, Sexton, CJ McCollum if POR opens bad and want to tear it down, Knicks are capped and may send the pick back for some talent.
Mavs messed up in talent acquisition, but Harrison's conservative approach looks promising, it will take time.

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[DallasMFFL]

Moving on from Carlisle will be huge for this team. Carlisle was a great floor raiser but lowered the team’s ceiling. I’m not saying Kidd will be great. We will have to wait and see about that, but Kidd is a coach that players want to ply for. No one wanted to come play for Carlisle. Nico will also help. Donnie and Carlisle were holding the team back. This team had to replace them in order to be successful in the modern NBA. That move had to be done first before this team could succeed. Nico and Finley made small and smart moves this offseason which is all I expected for a brand new president of operations. Once Nico gets settled I expect him to make some intelligent trades for this team.