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Post#281 » by leolozon » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:40 am

Barea should be cut and Terry should play some minutes. I don’t even care if Barea is still better for 5-10 mpg, the team has to think about the future, not this year.

If they want to be nice to Barea, give him a job.

Brunson, Burke, Terry, Barea... 4 bench PGs? That’s probably even two too many. 3 of them are small for the position (4?) and none of them are good defenders, they should play 30-35mpg between them.
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Post#282 » by JES12 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:10 am

JJP wrote:Brad Townsend
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I'm told that Mavs do in fact have 16 players committed to guaranteed contracts, plus Bey and Hinton on 2-ways and Gillespie on an e10 deal.

That means someone will be cut, eventually and, source says "it will be a competitive training camp."

It should be Barea. Give him his free money and then add him to the coaching staff.
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Post#283 » by JD45 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:20 am

I agree on JJB. Let him coach is they need his personality around. If he didn't justify minutes in the playoffs, he is too old to keep around.

James Johnson is another potential cut. Older and on a one year contract. Clearly not part of the future. If he can show he is one of their top 8 players quickly, then might as well move on.
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Post#284 » by Maverick41 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:47 am

JD45 wrote:I agree on JJB. Let him coach is they need his personality around. If he didn't justify minutes in the playoffs, he is too old to keep around.

James Johnson is another potential cut. Older and on a one year contract. Clearly not part of the future. If he can show he is one of their top 8 players quickly, then might as well move on.


I would be shocked if James Johnson got cut. He's still a good player and his toughness is sorely needed.
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Post#285 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:30 am

JD45 wrote:I agree on JJB. Let him coach is they need his personality around. If he didn't justify minutes in the playoffs, he is too old to keep around.

James Johnson is another potential cut. Older and on a one year contract. Clearly not part of the future. If he can show he is one of their top 8 players quickly, then might as well move on.

Johnson isn’t going anywhere. They brought him in to fill a specific role.


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Post#286 » by Speadge » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:01 pm

Mr B wrote:... to fill a specific role.


Like this one around 2:15 minutes of video where Covington shove Dragič? :)
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Post#287 » by fuller4379 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:05 pm

Slim pickings in free agency this year. There were a lot of has beens and never was. We have a lot of financial flexibility for next year when we have to make a move before Luka starts making $35 million a year.
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Post#288 » by fuller4379 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:13 pm

With James Johnson on the team, Luka is going to have protection against punks like Marcus Morris.
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Post#289 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Speadge wrote:
Mr B wrote:... to fill a specific role.


Like this one around 2:15 minutes of video where Covington shove Dragič? :)

Exactly. Simmons trying to act like a tough guy there but you could tell he didn’t want none of Johnson. Honestly I think every successful team needs at least 1 guy like this. Someone that brings an edge. On the Mavs 2011 team that guy was Deshawn Stevenson.


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Post#290 » by HMFFL » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:46 pm

JES12 wrote:
JJP wrote:Brad Townsend
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I'm told that Mavs do in fact have 16 players committed to guaranteed contracts, plus Bey and Hinton on 2-ways and Gillespie on an e10 deal.

That means someone will be cut, eventually and, source says "it will be a competitive training camp."

It should be Barea. Give him his free money and then add him to the coaching staff.



That's what I expect, too.
Keep that fanbase happy, pay Barea for his contributions in the past, and so he can be on paper for another season in the league. At this point we benefit by having him as a veteran leader and as a future Coach if he decides that's what he wants to do.
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Post#291 » by JJP » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:53 pm

HMFFL wrote:That's what I expect, too.
Keep that fanbase happy, pay Barea for his contributions in the past, and so he can be on paper for another season in the league. At this point we benefit by having him as a veteran leader and as a future Coach if he decides that's what he wants to do.


I said this in another thread, but Barea probably knows he will likely be cut. However, as long as is he still a player, he can be picked up by another team. If he retires, he can't do that. So if he wants to play somewhere, the smart thing to do is to come to training camp on a minimum salary deal. He makes 2 million dollars for a few weeks work, stays active as a player, and everyone is happy.
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Post#292 » by Imon » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:17 pm

HMFFL wrote:
JES12 wrote:
JJP wrote:Brad Townsend
@townbrad

I'm told that Mavs do in fact have 16 players committed to guaranteed contracts, plus Bey and Hinton on 2-ways and Gillespie on an e10 deal.

That means someone will be cut, eventually and, source says "it will be a competitive training camp."

It should be Barea. Give him his free money and then add him to the coaching staff.



That's what I expect, too.
Keep that fanbase happy, pay Barea for his contributions in the past, and so he can be on paper for another season in the league. At this point we benefit by having him as a veteran leader and as a future Coach if he decides that's what he wants to do.


Seems Barea has reached the Udonis Haslem level.
Pay a long time fan-favorite to stay on the team but don't give him much playing time.
I don't see how this is much of a problem since Barea is a pro and unlikely to complain if he makes it onto the roster and doesn't get playing time.

Unlike some Mavs fans here I actually think Barea will make it onto the team to start the season. I don't know who will get the axe but I think chances are pretty good Barea stays on.
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Post#293 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:43 pm

Imon wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
JES12 wrote:It should be Barea. Give him his free money and then add him to the coaching staff.



That's what I expect, too.
Keep that fanbase happy, pay Barea for his contributions in the past, and so he can be on paper for another season in the league. At this point we benefit by having him as a veteran leader and as a future Coach if he decides that's what he wants to do.


Seems Barea has reached the Udonis Haslem level.
Pay a long time fan-favorite to stay on the team but don't give him much playing time.
I don't see how this is much of a problem since Barea is a pro and unlikely to complain if he makes it onto the roster and doesn't get playing time.

Unlike some Mavs fans here I actually think Barea will make it onto the team to start the season. I don't know who will get the axe but I think chances are pretty good Barea stays on.

That’s what I’ve been saying. I believe he’s making the team. Besides being one of the most beloved Mavs of all time by the fans, Cuban/Donnie/Carlisle all love the guy too. Considering what JJ has provided this team Cuban is going to allow him to play as long as he wants. And I’m perfectly ok with that.


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Post#294 » by JJP » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:10 pm

If someone else is cut besides Barea, I promise to do two things:

1. Come back here and apologize to Mr B.
2. Grouse about it for the rest of the season.

If someone gets hurt, and Barea makes the team due to someone else's injury, all bets are off.
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Post#295 » by oldshoolballer » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:23 am

fuller4379 wrote:With James Johnson on the team, Luka is going to have protection against punks like Marcus Morris.

I'm pretty sure scumbag Morris wants any part of James Johnson.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#296 » by arkuo » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:11 pm

The Orlando Magic has not offered Jonathan Isaac a contract extension which means he will be RFA in 2021. Most of his peers inlcuding Bam Adebayo has been offered new deals to keep them under team control. I think Dallas has a play here as a Plan B to Giannis. Isaac is the perfect PF to play opposite KP. He is very switchable from 1 to 5. His play reminds me of Andrei Kirilenko. With a more capable 3 point shot.
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Post#297 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:39 pm

JJP wrote:If someone else is cut besides Barea, I promise to do two things:

1. Come back here and apologize to Mr B.
2. Grouse about it for the rest of the season.

If someone gets hurt, and Barea makes the team due to someone else's injury, all bets are off.

Hahaha! Honestly I could be totally wrong. I just think Cuban is going to allow him to play if he wants to play.

Does anyone know if they will for sure be playing in a bubble? If the teams are limited on the number of coaches that are allowed in the bubble (like last season) having a guy that is a player coach would actually give them a bit of an advantage. They have several new guys on the team and having an extra coach out there, especially one that is a PG and knows Carlisle’s system forwards and back.


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Post#298 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:43 pm

arkuo wrote:The Orlando Magic has not offered Jonathan Isaac a contract extension which means he will be RFA in 2021. Most of his peers inlcuding Bam Adebayo has been offered new deals to keep them under team control. I think Dallas has a play here as a Plan B to Giannis. Isaac is the perfect PF to play opposite KP. He is very switchable from 1 to 5. His play reminds me of Andrei Kirilenko. With a more capable 3 point shot.

If they ended up going after Isaac (I agree would be a perfect fit) I would also make a play for Evan Fournier. This team so far still needs an elite shooter at the wing position.


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Post#299 » by arkuo » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:10 pm

Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:The Orlando Magic has not offered Jonathan Isaac a contract extension which means he will be RFA in 2021. Most of his peers inlcuding Bam Adebayo has been offered new deals to keep them under team control. I think Dallas has a play here as a Plan B to Giannis. Isaac is the perfect PF to play opposite KP. He is very switchable from 1 to 5. His play reminds me of Andrei Kirilenko. With a more capable 3 point shot.

If they ended up going after Isaac (I agree would be a perfect fit) I would also make a play for Evan Fournier. This team so far still needs an elite shooter at the wing position.


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If the Mavs go for Isaac that only means Miami has their hands on Giannis. and If that's the case, I'd drop Fournier and just sign Duncan Robinson who is a RFA as well. Miami wont have space to get everyone back, and sign Butler, Bam and Giannis all on max contracts. Somehow guys like Nunn, Robinson will have to slip between the cracks. And they seem to be high value guys.
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Post#300 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:19 pm

arkuo wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:The Orlando Magic has not offered Jonathan Isaac a contract extension which means he will be RFA in 2021. Most of his peers inlcuding Bam Adebayo has been offered new deals to keep them under team control. I think Dallas has a play here as a Plan B to Giannis. Isaac is the perfect PF to play opposite KP. He is very switchable from 1 to 5. His play reminds me of Andrei Kirilenko. With a more capable 3 point shot.

If they ended up going after Isaac (I agree would be a perfect fit) I would also make a play for Evan Fournier. This team so far still needs an elite shooter at the wing position.


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If the Mavs go for Isaac that only means Miami has their hands on Giannis. and If that's the case, I'd drop Fournier and just sign Duncan Robinson who is a RFA as well. Miami wont have space to get everyone back, and sign Butler, Bam and Giannis all on max contracts. Somehow guys like Nunn, Robinson will have to slip between the cracks. And they seem to be high value guys.

Actually I’m assuming Giannis signs the super max and stays in Milwaukee. If Giannis leaves I think he’s coming to Dallas.


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