Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[JD45]

10 mil is a bargain for what Ujiri brings. If Cuban truly cares about the franchise moving forward, he will put his ego aside. Cuban could act that way with Nellie because he came to Dallas inexperienced and made several terrible moves along the way…. That’s not the case as much so with someone like Masai or Ainge

15 mil would be a bargain. Just avoiding nonsense like the Powell and Burke contracts would make it worth it.

We are probably overrating Masai. Every GM makes mistakes, but he is clearly competent.

[Mavrelous]

10 mil is a bargain for what Ujiri brings. If Cuban truly cares about the franchise moving forward, he will put his ego aside. Cuban could act that way with Nellie because he came to Dallas inexperienced and made several terrible moves along the way…. That’s not the case as much so with someone like Masai or Ainge

15 mil would be a bargain. Just avoiding nonsense like the Powell and Burke contracts would make it worth it.

We are probably overrating Masai. Every GM makes mistakes, but he is clearly competent.

It's hard to evaluate GMs, Donnie himself was amazing until 2011, Joe Dumars masterfully built a champion in Detroit, but ruined the franchise later.

[HMFFL]

10 mil is a bargain for what Ujiri brings. If Cuban truly cares about the franchise moving forward, he will put his ego aside. Cuban could act that way with Nellie because he came to Dallas inexperienced and made several terrible moves along the way…. That’s not the case as much so with someone like Masai or Ainge

15 mil would be a bargain. Just avoiding nonsense like the Powell and Burke contracts would make it worth it.

We are probably overrating Masai. Every GM makes mistakes, but he is clearly competent.

It's hard to evaluate GMs, Donnie himself was amazing until 2011, Joe Dumars masterfully built a champion in Detroit, but ruined the franchise later.

Danny Ainge should also be mentioned during his time with Boston.

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[arkuo]

Maybe this is an unpopular take. But Ben Simmons is laying an egg right now in the playoffs. If Morey decides to move him in the offseason for pieces and shooters around Embiid, I'd send THJ + 3 first round picks for him. Package is similar to what got Paul George to LAC. Ben may not shoot threes but his defense is elite. He'll easily be Luka's Scottie Pippen with his length and quickness on D. His position at the dunker's spot compliments KP who shoots jumpers outside. Plus Ben can make plays as a secondary ball handler. His value is just rock bottom right now.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Simmons / Kleber
SF- DFS / Green
SG- (max slot?)
PG- Doncic / Brunson

[Mavrelous]

I think they can get better return, but yeah I'm all for it.

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[XTraderXL]

Maybe this is an unpopular take. But Ben Simmons is laying an egg right now in the playoffs. If Morey decides to move him in the offseason for pieces and shooters around Embiid, I'd send THJ + 3 first round picks for him. Package is similar to what got Paul George to LAC. Ben may not shoot threes but his defense is elite. He'll easily be Luka's Scottie Pippen with his length and quickness on D. His position at the dunker's spot compliments KP who shoots jumpers outside. Plus Ben can make plays as a secondary ball handler. His value is just rock bottom right now.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Simmons / Kleber
SF- DFS / Green
SG- (max slot?)
PG- Doncic / Brunson

I agree, get Simmons if you can, make him a secondary playmaker, primary defender type guy. Used correctly he will be an amazing addition to this roster. And Luka will have a partner to practice FTs with. 1000 FTs daily each.

[Golden Knight]

I like Simmons at the PF spot. We were forced to play Boban major minutes because we didn't have the personnel to guard Kawhi. There should be no world where big man Maxi is arguably our best Kawhi defender. Richardson was supposed to be that player but he sucked. Simmons solves that.

Also how about Gobert? His value seems to have taken a beating. Morant constantly attacked him in the 1st round. PG, Mann and Jackson took that to another level in Game 5-6.

The last 3 years of his contract look scary (age 31-33) but i'll do it in a deal involving KP.

[Darren]

The Clippers postseason success against Jazz makes me pause. Batum actually wins the floor game against Gobert. If this is the trend, why not Doncic playing center. In case it is, I think Avdija for KP could be a done deal. Possibly, Bertans and Bryant with pick is coming back to the Mavs. Avdija has yet to find a footing. And Washington is interested in KP. I think the Mavs could finish the offseason with Rose, Howard, Ntilikina and either Hardaway for Hield. I expect one of Terry, Burke or Brunson being moved by season end. J-Rich either opts out or being moved. Maybe the Mavs keep Boban around for similar term.

C - Howard / Kleber / Boban?
PF - Avdija / Powell / Bey?
SF - Doncic / DFS / Green
SG - Hield / Terry / Ntilikina / Hinton?
PG - Rose / Brunson / Burke

I don't think it is wise to give a 20M-per deal to Markkanen unless the Mavs really finds the next coming of Dirk in Markkanen. Clippers just started Batum, Morris, George, Mann and Jackson and blow out the Jazz. You know what I mean. 2 SF or stretch bigs with 3 combo guards, one of which is elite defender, one deadeye shooter and one penetrator. That exactly what delivers W big time.

The Mavs could have Doncic, Avdija, DFS, Hield and Rose in clutch time. There's no real need for traditional bigs on big contract. This is the most affordable way to build a roster. I am 50-50 on Brunson extension. I'm higher on Rose, who does deliver on a playoff roster while Brunson disappears for 4 straight games. If the Mavs decide to move on, then it's better to get something. I think Burke and perhaps Terry is more than capable for rotation minutes. Also, I think both Bey and Hinton deserves consideration on an active roster. I'm 50-50 on Boban. I think uptempo game is the trend.

[Mavrelous]

I think conley is availabe.
I doubt the Jazz will pay 60 (20 + 40 tax) millions a year to retain him.
He's the PG available, but he's 34 and injury prone.
If Jrich opts out, Mavs can sign THJ and Conley, big forward for the room ( OPJ or Batum), Meyers Lronard/WCS for the BAE.

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[arkuo]

I think conley is availabe.
I doubt the Jazz will pay 60 (20 + 40 tax) millions a year to retain him.
He's the PG available, but he's 34 and injury prone.
If Jrich opts out, Mavs can sign THJ and Conley, big forward for the room ( OPJ or Batum), Meyers Lronard/WCS for the BAE.

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I'm on the fence with bringing THJ back. Signing THJ to his usual rate would lock the team up for at least 4 years. And a big 3 of Luka + KP + THJ isn't scaring anyone in the west. They'd lack a bit of starpower to get over the hump in most cases.

[arkuo]

Anyone watched the Sixers' choke job today? That to me was why Seth Curry was traded. Was the Jrich trade a good one? Hell no. Was Curry supposed to be traded, definitely!

ATL was switching Trae Young and Lou Williams on Seth Curry everytime. Philly lost a 25 point lead because of those two guys running layups and shooting jumpshots on Curry. Anytime they get the ball, they always look for anyone on Seth. Because he plays zero defense. And Philly lost the 25 point lead and the game. Doesnt matter if Seth scored 30+ on the other end. He allows more on D.

That'a why he had to be upraded to someone who plays defense. The Jrich experiment didnt work as Jrich was useless still. But Seth + Luka + THJ on defense? Kawhi would score 60. Which also why THJ needs to be sent out. Probably for Rozier or Wil Barton. Expiring contract, plays defense, and if doesnt work, you can try again in 2022. THJ isnt scaring anyone and you get more problems by having non-defenders around Luka and KP. Utah also got a taste of that today because Donovan Mitchell kept having guys blow by him. Gobert pretty much had to guard 1 on 4. Which is too much for any center. The Mavs can take notes from these playoff games. Lots of similarities.

[41Dirk41]

I think conley is availabe.
I doubt the Jazz will pay 60 (20 + 40 tax) millions a year to retain him.
He's the PG available, but he's 34 and injury prone.
If Jrich opts out, Mavs can sign THJ and Conley, big forward for the room ( OPJ or Batum), Meyers Lronard/WCS for the BAE.

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I'm on the fence with bringing THJ back. Signing THJ to his usual rate would lock the team up for at least 4 years. And a big 3 of Luka + KP + THJ isn't scaring anyone in the west. They'd lack a bit of starpower to get over the hump in most cases.

Agree... add Conley and OPJ/Batum aren't enough for be a contender.

[Mavrelous]

There is no way to become contender with the current tools, but if KP is back to 2020 form, with Conley, big farward and THJ, Brunson and DFS, the team can beat anyone.

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[41Dirk41]

There is no way to become contender with the current tools, but if KP is back to 2020 form, with Conley, big farward and THJ, Brunson and DFS, the team can beat anyone.

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I don't think so...i prefer flip THJ to Hield and trade Brunson (maybe with Kleber and/or Powell) for a player more usefull for our roster.

Then sign someone...Conley is very injury prone, i like him but it's a risk.

[arkuo]

Okay. so after watching Utah getting bounced and Philly's historical choke job, one thing it can teach the Mavs is in the playoffs when teams go smaller and have wings win games, you need highly switchable guys who can play in the paint yet cover the perimeter guys on switches.

Let THJ walk. Sign Norman Powell. Hits the same rate as THJ but plays D. Can also get to the rim by himself rather than have THJ wait for Luka's passes in the 3 pt line.

Trade Dwight Powell + Burke for Thad Young

Trade Kleber + 2nd round pick for Taurean Prince

Sign Nic Batum with the MLE.

C- Porzingis / WCS
PF- Young / Batum
SF- Prince / DFS
SG - Powell / Green
PG - Doncic / Brunson

Young, Prince, Batum, DFS are all 6'7, 6'8 highly switchable guys who can play defense and are gritty. Can play small ball center too. The Marcus Morris type. Just flank KP and Luka with these guys.

Powell seems to be a better runningmate to Luka than THJ. Canplay defense and can create his own offense. When Luka's P&R doesn't materialize and the play breaks down, you need someone who can take it to the rim for a layup or draw a foul. THJ will simply launch a 35 foot hail mary.

[JD45]

I think Norm Powell would work well. However, if Josh Green could hit the same % of 3pt and FTs he did in college, I think he would be ideal for the Josh Richardson role. He made mistakes, but also made plays on defense. Was a good rebounder and tracked down loose balls. Decent ball handler and showed some passing ability. He could guard PG, SG, and SF so would be good on switches.

So I would be reluctant to spend trade or cap assets on a position they may very well have a solution for in house.

[arkuo]

I think Norm Powell would work well. However, if Josh Green could hit the same % of 3pt and FTs he did in college, I think he would be ideal for the Josh Richardson role. He made mistakes, but also made plays on defense. Was a good rebounder and tracked down loose balls. Decent ball handler and showed some passing ability. He could guard PG, SG, and SF so would be good on switches.

So I would be reluctant to spend trade or cap assets on a position they may very well have a solution for in house.

Green should be able to fill the SF role when Prince and DFS get into their 30s.

The mistakes come from not having a full training camp and adjusting to a real NBA team is a challenge for most. Hopefully this year they get a full camp with a new coach by then.

[arkuo]

Norm Powell seems to be another Malcolm Brogdon type. Very efficient shooting during his playoff performance with the Blazers. He's THJ with defense. Both are 6'4, 6'5 types that should be able to defend opposing point guards, something Luka cant do. Luka switches to SF on defense.

[Mavrelous]

Blazers are flirting with tax, and will not want to go to bidding war over him, especially when Nurk extention is coming up, and they have 5 spots open on the roster, Mavs would be wise to offer THJ S&T (64/4 starts at 15) + Kleber for Powell S&T (84/4) + Collins S&T (12-15/3), losing Kleber sucks, but this solves the PG problem next to Luka.
Blazers don't need Powell's ball handling, only shooting which THJ can provide, and they need a PF/C like Kleber, who's jack of all trades, master of none, Mavs can use defensive 4/5 like Collins, and they need Powell ability to handle to shoot and attack the weak side.
After such trade, Instead of pursuing a PG, Mavs will need to go for athletic big forward, gamble on OPJ, Aaron Gorgon, Thadeus Young, etc...

[arkuo]

Blazers are flirting with tax, and will not want to go to bidding war over him, especially when Nurk extention is coming up, and they have 5 spots open on the roster, Mavs would be wise to offer THJ S&T (64/4 starts at 15) + Kleber for Powell S&T (84/4) + Collins S&T (12-15/3), losing Kleber sucks, but this solves the PG problem next to Luka.
Blazers don't need Powell's ball handling, only shooting which THJ can provide, and they need a PF/C like Kleber, who's jack of all trades, master of none, Mavs can use defensive 4/5 like Collins, and they need Powell ability to handle to shoot and attack the weak side.
After such trade, Instead of pursuing a PG, Mavs will need to go for athletic big forward, gamble on OPJ, Aaron Gorgon, Thadeus Young, etc...

This is correct. Getting Powell addresses these things. Shooting, defense and secondary playmaking. That should secure your SG spot for years.

I wonder if the new Dallas coach and GM would be interested with Montrezl Harrell as the big athletic forward. Can play small ball C at times.