Mavericks - 2023 Preseason (G4. Oct. 20 vs Pistons 7p.m CST)

[Bob8]

I know it's ridiculous as this is preseason, but there's no sense of urgency or change.

It's probably going to be a long year since your two best players are perpetually questionable.

I'm sorry but once even you start questioning everything, this whole forum goes downhill. You have no other choice but to stay optimistic.

Luka laughing when a guy hits a 3 on his team, preaseason or not, says it all.

Hopefully it's just preaseason. But this past week has been a sham.

I'm afraid that Real is far more deeper in his heart than Mavs.

[ejs78]

And you have missed that he's a starter.

Hate to tell you that it doesn't change his age and his learning curve. Kinda how it goes buddy.

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And I hate to tell you, that he's still a starter, Mavs will need to live with.

I have compared 2 players now, not what might be in the distance future. 1 is starter in Nba team that wants to make playoffs, other is backup C in Spain.

And I have no problem living with it and living in reality. On the other hand.....

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[Bob8]

Hate to tell you that it doesn't change his age and his learning curve. Kinda how it goes buddy.

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And I hate to tell you, that he's still a starter, Mavs will need to live with.

I have compared 2 players now, not what might be in the distance future. 1 is starter in Nba team that wants to make playoffs, other is backup C in Spain.

And I have no problem living with and living in reality. On the other hand.....

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Reality is that he should be on the bench. He will ended there eventually anyway, like Mcgee has last year. Kidd likes his job too much to lose it for developing totally raw rookie.

The right question here is, how Mavs can't find at least decent C? Poirier is few classes better than Powell and you have numerous Cs like that.

[Maverick41]

Quick thoughts. Exum is good and runs an offense infinitely better then Hardy or Seth.

On the other hand, Holmes is cooked. Him and Jelly together tried their best to lose the game.

[41Dirk41]

Any big guy from Real Madrid would probably be better than Powell and Holmes. This off season suddenly doesn't look that good anymore. Injuries, horrible offense, still very suspect defense and RM even won the rebounds battle.

I told you days ago... probably all the EL starting C are better then ours right now.

But this **** is good, maybe now they will trade for Capela or someone else.

[41Dirk41]

And I hate to tell you, that he's still a starter, Mavs will need to live with.

I have compared 2 players now, not what might be in the distance future. 1 is starter in Nba team that wants to make playoffs, other is backup C in Spain.

And I have no problem living with and living in reality. On the other hand.....

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Reality is that he should be on the bench. He will ended there eventually anyway, like Mcgee has last year. Kidd likes his job too much to lose it for developing totally raw rookie.

The right question here is, how Mavs can't find at least decent C? Poirier is few classes better than Powell and you have numerous Cs like that.

It's easy to find a cheap upgrade at C(even in Europe), but Cuban is too moron for understand it... i hope those horrible preseason can change something.

The sad news is that if a bunch of random realgm posters understood it before the very well paid Dallas Mavericks GM then we have a big big big problem.

[Bob8]

Any big guy from Real Madrid would probably be better than Powell and Holmes. This off season suddenly doesn't look that good anymore. Injuries, horrible offense, still very suspect defense and RM even won the rebounds battle.

I told you days ago... probably all the EL starting C are better then ours right now.

But this **** is good, maybe now they will trade for Capela or someone else.

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

[41Dirk41]

On the other hand, Holmes is cooked.

I hope not... maybe he has to find the game touch after 1years on the bench.

[41Dirk41]

Any big guy from Real Madrid would probably be better than Powell and Holmes. This off season suddenly doesn't look that good anymore. Injuries, horrible offense, still very suspect defense and RM even won the rebounds battle.

I told you days ago... probably all the EL starting C are better then ours right now.

But this **** is good, maybe now they will trade for Capela or someone else.

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

It's even worse

[fuller4379]

Another big day for Powell. 13 points and 4 rebounds in 16 minutes. He is going to have a MVP season.

[Maverick41]

One thing that I haven't heard anyone talk about here is how bad Kleber has looked. He looks noticeably slower on his feet and has yet to make a 3 or do literally anything good.

I can see Grant playing small ball 5 to end games more then Kleber right now.

[BliscoSantos]

Kleber and Dwight should have been replaced two years ago...but they're nice guys ,everybody likes them so who cares if they are actually good at basketball
Another **** season incoming,Kyrie bolting and Luka handing in a trade request or leaving when his contract expires(if they don't make significant improvents)

[Apz]

Did ppl actually watch the game? Feels like half didnt and just looks at the scoreboard. If all reals players are so much better then mavs, why were they down like 10-12 points before mavs rolled out the end of the bench?

And i know ppl can be stupid, but not stupid enough to think mavs will be worse with luka and kyrie...right? My biggest issue with this preseason is that due injuries we have absolutely no idea how it looks, and team has had no chance to actually get any sort of starting 5 glued together. Heck, we only know 3 starters! The only positive thing is exum, he looks pretty good. When we had a overseas preseason last time it also felt like this, more of a vacation and noone taking it seriously. And iirc that start of season were horrible

[BliscoSantos]

It's not Just the fact that they lost the game...they got ourebounded and bullied in the paint yet again and they played by the NBA rules(no camping in the paint)...Luka and Kai are supposedly weak links on the D,yet I haven't seen any D from Dallas without them either

[Bob8]

Did ppl actually watch the game? Feels like half didnt and just looks at the scoreboard. If all reals players are so much better then mavs, why were they down like 10-12 points before mavs rolled out the end of the bench?

And i know ppl can be stupid, but not stupid enough to think mavs will be worse with luka and kyrie...right? My biggest issue with this preseason is that due injuries we have absolutely no idea how it looks, and team has had no chance to actually get any sort of starting 5 glued together. Heck, we only know 3 starters! The only positive thing is exum, he looks pretty good. When we had a overseas preseason last time it also felt like this, more of a vacation and noone taking it seriously. And iirc that start of season were horrible

And maybe some people don't know, that Real has played on Sunday and plays on Thursday in Turkey again, that's why their rotation was a bit different then normal too, not to mention that normally Nba team should destroy European team under Nba rules. Probably beating Real with Luka isn't some great achievement.

[41Dirk41]

It's easy undervalue those games, probably Cuban did the same. Luka will cover a lot of problems.
But the reality is pretty clear, we have the worst bigs in the league.
I don't think we are PO material with this roster despite Luka and that's sucks.

The missed trade for Ayton remember me the Markaneen story but great deals needed basketball knowledge so other teams maked those trades.

[boogiezen]

AGAIN, the defense is the PROBLEM. Luka only played 5 mins. and Kyrie didn't play. And yet the team gave up 127pts. LOL.

The only chance that Dallas can move forward is to get rid of Kidd. And Cuban to sell the damn team.

[Mavrelous]

Quick thoughts. Exum is good and runs an offense infinitely better then Hardy or Seth.

On the other hand, Holmes is cooked. Him and Jelly together tried their best to lose the game.

Exum and Williams have been pleasant surprises, Hardy and Green have been bad ones...
I also think DJJ should be ahead of OMax in the rotation, didn't do anything to stand out, but his rebounding, verticality and willling to attack empty spaces looks good.
Holmes looked much better on game 1 against the Wolves.
I have Exum ahead of Green/Hardy in rotation, and I think Kidd will start THJ

[Bob8]

Quick thoughts. Exum is good and runs an offense infinitely better then Hardy or Seth.

On the other hand, Holmes is cooked. Him and Jelly together tried their best to lose the game.

Exum and Williams have been pleasant surprises, Hardy and Green have been bad ones...
I also think DJJ should be ahead of OMax in the rotation, didn't do anything to stand out, but his rebounding, verticality and willling to attack empty spaces looks good.
Holmes looked much better on game 1 against the Wolves.
I have Exum ahead of Green/Hardy in rotation, and I think Kidd will start THJ

Exum looks good because Obradovic is fantastic system coach. He's totally different than Kidd. He has learned more basketball last year than in his previous career. Hardy and Green on the other hand are just full of energy and 0 understanding of the game.

[Mavrelous]

Any big guy from Real Madrid would probably be better than Powell and Holmes. This off season suddenly doesn't look that good anymore. Injuries, horrible offense, still very suspect defense and RM even won the rebounds battle.

I told you days ago... probably all the EL starting C are better then ours right now.

But this **** is good, maybe now they will trade for Capela or someone else.

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

Porier played much better than Taveres...