Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[tleikheen]

we need defense which he doens’t provide except for maybe rebounding.

Kuzma is 6'10" with shoes on & with a 7' wingspan who is avging 23. ppg and 6 rpg. The defense will get better just with the wingspan and height Kuzma brings and the idea is to win and if it means with the best offense in the NBA then go for it.

[Maverick41]

If John Collins is available, I would target him. He's no longer cheap like he was before and will cost a pretty penny but I think he can have a profound impact here especially if he keeps playing the way he is right now.

[ozwizard8]

We have to be honest here, Josh is not the reason for Mavs struggles but we have to admit that 2 players on minimum contracts outplayed him. He's for sure pretty big disappointment.

I could see that development positive, if FO finds a way to trade him for someone bigger, because DJJ and Exum cover his position pretty well and Mavs are desperately thin with bigs.

With Luka and Kyrie the best fit is a big body wing who can defend, rebound and make 3s... Everything else is a plus but those 3 skills are a must.

And of course another C, unless Holmes proves he can play 20/25 quality minutes, because Kleber is always injuried and Powell is a soft pussy.

You play $10m per year and on average you'd get sth like Kleber-Powell caliber.
For a vet min 3rd string center, you get sth like Holmes.

You cannot invest all trade assets, and max money to Kyrie and then hope for a good frontcourt.

[ozwizard8]

we need defense which he doens’t provide except for maybe rebounding.

Kuzma is 6'10" with shoes on & with a 7' wingspan who is avging 23. ppg and 6 rpg. The defense will get better just with the wingspan and height Kuzma brings and the idea is to win and if it means with the best offense in the NBA then go for it.

what does he cost to us?

I dont think he is serious player. I do not believe he would show enough effort to play in a system defensively.
But body-wise, he'd be poor men's Aaron Gordon/MPJ hybrid.

How much salary does he get, and how much trade asset does he cost? These are the questions.

[ozwizard8]

Capela is our guy, i hope everybody finally understand.

Yes but how? Green ain't getting it done right now for sure. We actually need THJ. Hardy doesn't make sense since they set have 2 star guards + Bogi and Bufkin. Omax? They got Jalen Johnson, Hunter, Bey, and Griffin. So a FRP? I wouldn't send a FRP for a center that is clearly getting worse. I want Capela too but I'm not sure how unless we somehow get involved in the Siakam 3 way.

I'm not the well paid GM of Dallas Mavericks (otherwise Powell and Kleber certainly wouldn't have been re-signed ), he has to find a way.

Capela is a 29yo not a 40yo. He has at least 3/4 years of good basketball.
A FRP for him could be good, we don't have room for another rookie to develop. Mostly on the #20 draft range.

I don't know Capela injury update, if he is totally healthy i'm ok with him.
Luka plays like prime Harden and i remember how good was Capela with him.

Capela has been looking like 33-34 years old this year and the last. If he has short contract and available for cheap lets go for him. Otherwise, he wont be enough.

The idea of getting an old center to share minutes with Lively and eventually pass the flag makes sense.

The issue is limited assets, and limited cap space. Eventually trading Kyrie is the only viable option.

[tleikheen]

I dont think he is serious player. I do not believe he would show enough effort to play in a system defensively.

Mavs dont have a defensive system accept trotting out short arm defenders. Also Kuzma is very serious as he has a Championship ring as a rotation player for the Lakers. Kyrie has a ring and knows what making a clutch shot feels like.
Both know how to play team ball if they're on a top tier team.
As far as I know Josh Greens' salary extension is whats counted in a trade 13 million starting next yr. Kuzma's salary is 25 .7 million. Add in Hardy's 1.7n million and Klebers 11 million and you can swing a deal.

[daoneandonly]

I'd be fine with Robin Lopez at this point, he's big and can rebound

Bob mentioned Green having one of the worst defensive ratings, the simple eye tests proves it too. The guy allows anyone he's "guarding" to blow past him. But soon enough our +/- expert who called him elite will chime in about why he's so great.

Since you're throwing subtle jabs at people all the time, this time you're targeting me, i'll just go all out on you this time. Mods apparently don't care, neither will i.

Fix your eye test aswell because it's apparently broken. You're clueless about anything and you need a reality check. How players are projected before the season and how players actually play during the season are 2 different things. We're not GM's and we're not scouts so we don't have inside knowledge, we can only assess players based on what we saw and stats we're reading. Unfortunately we know you don't have a clue about data and we know you don't know what you see during the game.

You thought Bullock had great last season and Green was a problem.

The fact that you think a rookie scale contract Josh Green is the main problem for Mavs (So far) says it all about you.

He was actually one of the better players last night and yet Mavs still comfortably lost. So another proof how your overall basketball knowledge is fundamentally broken. It's actually laughable at this point how horrible your takes are.

Funny someone throwing insults yet doesn't know the meaning of the word subtle. Nothing subtle or discrete about my post, +/- is a crap stat, just like Josh is a crap player and has zero work ethic.

Keep talking about rookie scale, he got extended so that's his measuring stick now. 14 mil a year, and he performs at a league min level. He puts up stats in losing efforts, bravo! G league guys can do that too

[Archx]

I'd be fine with Robin Lopez at this point, he's big and can rebound

Bob mentioned Green having one of the worst defensive ratings, the simple eye tests proves it too. The guy allows anyone he's "guarding" to blow past him. But soon enough our +/- expert who called him elite will chime in about why he's so great.

Since you're throwing subtle jabs at people all the time, this time you're targeting me, i'll just go all out on you this time. Mods apparently don't care, neither will i.

Fix your eye test aswell because it's apparently broken. You're clueless about anything and you need a reality check. How players are projected before the season and how players actually play during the season are 2 different things. We're not GM's and we're not scouts so we don't have inside knowledge, we can only assess players based on what we saw and stats we're reading. Unfortunately we know you don't have a clue about data and we know you don't know what you see during the game.

You thought Bullock had great last season and Green was a problem.

The fact that you think a rookie scale contract Josh Green is the main problem for Mavs (So far) says it all about you.

He was actually one of the better players last night and yet Mavs still comfortably lost. So another proof how your overall basketball knowledge is fundamentally broken. It's actually laughable at this point how horrible your takes are.

Funny someone throwing insults yet doesn't know the meaning of the word subtle. Nothing subtle or discrete about my post, +/- is a crap stat, just like Josh is a crap player and has zero work ethic.

Keep talking about rookie scale, he got extended so that's his measuring stick now. 14 mil a year, and he performs at a league min level. He puts up stats in losing efforts, bravo! G league guys can do that too

All stats can be crap stats unless you know how to combine them and figure out on your own by watching games. You have your blinkers on since Green was drafted. As if that was HIS CHOICE. It's the FO who drafted, he didn't beg for it.

14M today is same as it was 5M couple of years back. That's why you need to look at % of roster cap, which i already explained to you couple of weeks back. 14M next season will be even lower to what it is today. But whatever you don't get it anyway...

His contract is tradeable, that's all you need to know. IF it doesn't work out and Mavs get a good offer, i'm sure they'll pull the trigger and you'll be the happiest guy alive. Problem solved.

[daoneandonly]

Since you're throwing subtle jabs at people all the time, this time you're targeting me, i'll just go all out on you this time. Mods apparently don't care, neither will i.

Fix your eye test aswell because it's apparently broken. You're clueless about anything and you need a reality check. How players are projected before the season and how players actually play during the season are 2 different things. We're not GM's and we're not scouts so we don't have inside knowledge, we can only assess players based on what we saw and stats we're reading. Unfortunately we know you don't have a clue about data and we know you don't know what you see during the game.

You thought Bullock had great last season and Green was a problem.

The fact that you think a rookie scale contract Josh Green is the main problem for Mavs (So far) says it all about you.

He was actually one of the better players last night and yet Mavs still comfortably lost. So another proof how your overall basketball knowledge is fundamentally broken. It's actually laughable at this point how horrible your takes are.

Funny someone throwing insults yet doesn't know the meaning of the word subtle. Nothing subtle or discrete about my post, +/- is a crap stat, just like Josh is a crap player and has zero work ethic.

Keep talking about rookie scale, he got extended so that's his measuring stick now. 14 mil a year, and he performs at a league min level. He puts up stats in losing efforts, bravo! G league guys can do that too

All stats can be crap stats unless you know how to combine them and figure out on your own by watching games. You have your blinkers on since Green was drafted. As if that was HIS CHOICE. It's the FO who drafted, he didn't beg for it.

14M today is same as it was 5M couple of years back. That's why you need to look at % of roster cap, which i already explained to you couple of weeks back. 14M next season will be even lower to what it is today. But whatever you don't get it anyway...

His contract is tradeable, that's all you need to know. IF it doesn't work out and Mavs get a good offer, i'm sure they'll pull the trigger and you'll be the happiest guy alive. Problem solved.

The he didn't ask to be drafted is a tired argument. He clearly doesn't put in the work, already gave multiple examples that show it. He's fine collecting checks, that's what I see and it's insulting as a fan and as someone who works for a living.

We can agree to put each other on ignore from here on out, another problem solved. Happy Thanksgiving if u celebrate.

[daoneandonly]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

[41Dirk41]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

He is not a real C but he is young, tough and good rebounder... I don't see him too much, is he also a good Defender?

Detroit is a mess but i don't think they will trade him easily...

[ejs78]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

He's not good....

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[BeiBeau]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

He's not good....

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He doesn’t care. He’d prefer the Mavs lose then green be on the team.

[daoneandonly]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

He's not good....

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Yea why I phrased it as solid. He'll do some dirty work we'll need when he's in there

[ejs78]

Isaiah Stewart would be a solid guy to have on this team. If we could turn Green into him, what a win

He's not good....

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Yea why I phrased it as solid. He'll do some dirty work we'll need when he's in there

I would say he's not even that. But seeing how each fanbase seems to hate each player why not.

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[daoneandonly]

He's not good....

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Yea why I phrased it as solid. He'll do some dirty work we'll need when he's in there

I would say he's not even that. But seeing how each fanbase seems to hate each player why not.

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Interestingly enough, there's a beef stew trade value thread on the T&T board. I don't think Green would get some of the offers proposed there.

[ejs78]

Yea why I phrased it as solid. He'll do some dirty work we'll need when he's in there

I would say he's not even that. But seeing how each fanbase seems to hate each player why not.

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Interestingly enough, there's a beef stew trade value thread on the T&T board. I don't think Green would get some of the offers proposed there.

If people are trying to guage trade value like this base does Green it should be a sign they prolly don't value Stewart that much either. 2 late FRPs is an insane ask. Stewart shouldn't even have been a FRP and was a huge reach.

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[daoneandonly]

I would say he's not even that. But seeing how each fanbase seems to hate each player why not.

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Interestingly enough, there's a beef stew trade value thread on the T&T board. I don't think Green would get some of the offers proposed there.

If people are trying to guage trade value like this base does Green it should be a sign they prolly don't value Stewart that much either. 2 late FRPs is an insane ask. Stewart shouldn't even have been a FRP and was a huge reach.

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That's what I thought, was shocked to see those valuations

[41Dirk41]

Teams always have insane asking price ( 2FRPs for DFS was the funniest ever)... Sometimes they win the lottey (Rudy Gobert coff coff) sometimes they fail.

[ejs78]

Interestingly enough, there's a beef stew trade value thread on the T&T board. I don't think Green would get some of the offers proposed there.

If people are trying to guage trade value like this base does Green it should be a sign they prolly don't value Stewart that much either. 2 late FRPs is an insane ask. Stewart shouldn't even have been a FRP and was a huge reach.

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That's what I thought, was shocked to see those valuations

It will be interesting to see what the Pistons do as they are in a world of hurt. Morris is now out 6-8 weeks and he basically called that BS then deleted his tweet.

Feels like the Bojan sell high window is closed. they aren't going to move Cade, Duran, or Thompson and after that its alot of meh.

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