Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

DJ_3_Ball · Post #321 » by **DJ_3_Ball** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:57 am

Imon wrote:It's bad enough that KP has missed 9 games (and who know if he will miss more) but if the Mavs ship out Maxi then the Mavs big man rotation will become the biggest train wreck in the NBA.

Great point! When KP is out, Maxi's value skyrockets for this team. If you take KP & Maxi away, the Mavs are one of the worst teams in the NBA because we simply cannot protect the rim at that point.

BigTex · Post #322 » by **BigTex** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:08 am

DJ_3_Ball wrote:
Imon wrote:It's bad enough that KP has missed 9 games (and who know if he will miss more) but if the Mavs ship out Maxi then the Mavs big man rotation will become the biggest train wreck in the NBA.

Great point! When KP is out, Maxi's value skyrockets for this team. If you take KP & Maxi away, the Mavs are one of the worst teams in the NBA because we simply cannot protect the rim at that point.

Just say “No” to trading Maxi period. I’d rather trade Powell if we give up a big. Or Jackson, Brunson, or Wright. (Assume other than Lee salary matching, no rebuilding team is interested in our older, more experienced players.)

arkuo · Post #323 » by **arkuo** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:22 am

Minnesota needs a point guard. Even moreso now that they sent out Jeff Teague. And we have 4 point guards on our roster. Send two of Delon Wright, Seth Curry, Jalen Brunson or JJ Barea. Add Justin Jackson and Courtney Lee to that, plus our frist rounder this year.

I know it's bit more value we send out, but if you want Covington, there a line for teams sending offers for him. So you gotta beat other offers to get him.

arkuo · Post #324 » by **arkuo** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:23 am

My guess is they'd want Brunson to go along with the same core of Culver, Wiggins and KAT. So maybe Lee + Jackson + Brunson + 1st rounder can do it.

BlueSan · Post #325 » by **BlueSan** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:39 am

Do not trade Brunson...

DJ_3_Ball · Post #326 » by **DJ_3_Ball** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:10 am

arkuo wrote:Minnesota needs a point guard. Even moreso now that they sent out Jeff Teague. And we have 4 point guards on our roster. Send two of Delon Wright, Seth Curry, Jalen Brunson or JJ Barea. Add Justin Jackson and Courtney Lee to that, plus our frist rounder this year.

I know it's bit more value we send out, but if you want Covington, there a line for teams sending offers for him. So you gotta beat other offers to get him.

We can't trade our 1st rounder this year because next year's 1st is going to New York, and you can't give up 1st round picks in back-to-back years i.e the Stepien rule

We could trade the GSW 2nd round pick, though, which to some teams has more value. If the GSW 2nd round pick winds up in the 31-33 range, and the Mavs wind up in the 23-25 range of the 1st, then a lot of teams would rather draft at the top of the 2nd and not have to commit guaranteed money over more years than actually draft a few spots higher on into the 1st round.

arkuo · Post #327 » by **arkuo** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:35 am

Getting Convington ticks a lot of boxes as he csn switch to bigs and guard them too. He is really good defensively which means him and DFS will be hounding the best opposing players while Luka and KP remain out of foul trouble. Covington is as big as Milsap and they are rhe same height. I think he can play PF here with KP at center. The boost in defense would be tremendous.

If the Lakers and Celtics can play Kuzma and Tatum at PF, then Covington most definitely can too.

DJ_3_Ball · Post #328 » by **DJ_3_Ball** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:29 pm

arkuo wrote:Getting Convington ticks a lot of boxes as he csn switch to bigs and guard them too. He is really good defensively which means him and DFS will be hounding the best opposing players while Luka and KP remain out of foul trouble. Covington is as big as Milsap and they are rhe same height. I think he can play PF here with KP at center. The boost in defense would be tremendous.

If the Lakers and Celtics can play Kuzma and Tatum at PF, then Covington most definitely can too.

The Mavs would never send Powell to the bench (right or wrong... if you ask me that's wrong), so Covington would send DFS to the bench, which isn't such a bad thing either. Imagine DFS & Wright on the floor together guarding a team's second unit. I think that'd give us some nice +/- #s vs opposing teams' 2nd unit.

Not sure it's a big boost for the playoffs, unless you can get Covington, DFS & Wright on the floor together. Then you start to have the makings of a good defensive squad.

I'm all for adding Covington (as long as the price isn't exorbitant), and while he solves a lot of problems, he creates a few for this team too.

I really don't think Donnie built this team for any mid-season changes. He probably didn't think they'd be necessary... I don't know. Maybe he built it to have complimentary pieces around the superstar they hope to add in 2021 once Lee & THJ's money are off the books. It feels like as long as THJ is locked into the starting unit the flexibility isn't there with the roster.

daoneandonly · Post #329 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

I'd love to get Covington if we could. Any combination of Curry, Brunson, Jackson, GSW pick. I'd imagine its not enough for Minny, but cant hurt to hope

arkuo · Post #330 » by **arkuo** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:21 pm

Judging by how Cuban really wanted Danny Green to be a Mav, I'd say he'd be interested in Covington as well. Cuban has a clearer picture now where this team is defensively. Warriors just declined a D'Angelo Russell for a package of Covington and Dieng. The asking price for Roco should go down as the deadline nears. Gerson Rosas would be dumb to ask superstars in exchange for Roco.

ejs78 · Post #331 » by **ejs78** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:52 pm

Rockets appear to be out on Lord Covington

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/01/trade-rumors-bucks-rockets-covington-heat-more.html?fv-home=true&post-id=150821

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DJ_3_Ball · Post #332 » by **DJ_3_Ball** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:28 am

arkuo wrote:Judging by how Cuban really wanted Danny Green to be a Mav, I'd say he'd be interested in Covington as well. Cuban has a clearer picture now where this team is defensively. Warriors just declined a D'Angelo Russell for a package of Covington and Dieng. The asking price for Roco should go down as the deadline nears. Gerson Rosas would be dumb to ask superstars in exchange for Roco.

He's 29 w/ 2 years left on his deal. He's not in a desperate situation.

Actually... if there's any real desperation, it's to appease KAT. Bringing in his buddy DLo would of done that. But, if he wants to play hard ball, contractually he can.

Pinkyring · Post #333 » by **Pinkyring** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:28 am

BlueSan wrote:Do not trade Brunson...

Why, he's a backup point guard

dirkforpres · Post #334 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:50 am

BlueSan wrote:Do not trade Brunson...

I’d rather trade Brunson than Wright

arkuo · Post #335 » by **arkuo** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:24 pm

DJ_3_Ball wrote:
arkuo wrote:Getting Convington ticks a lot of boxes as he csn switch to bigs and guard them too. He is really good defensively which means him and DFS will be hounding the best opposing players while Luka and KP remain out of foul trouble. Covington is as big as Milsap and they are rhe same height. I think he can play PF here with KP at center. The boost in defense would be tremendous.

If the Lakers and Celtics can play Kuzma and Tatum at PF, then Covington most definitely can too.

The Mavs would never send Powell to the bench (right or wrong... if you ask me that's wrong), so Covington would send DFS to the bench, which isn't such a bad thing either. Imagine DFS & Wright on the floor together guarding a team's second unit. I think that'd give us some nice +/- #s vs opposing teams' 2nd unit.

Not sure it's a big boost for the playoffs, unless you can get Covington, DFS & Wright on the floor together. Then you start to have the makings of a good defensive squad.

I'm all for adding Covington (as long as the price isn't exorbitant), and while he solves a lot of problems, he creates a few for this team too.

I really don't think Donnie built this team for any mid-season changes. He probably didn't think they'd be necessary... I don't know. Maybe he built it to have complimentary pieces around the superstar they hope to add in 2021 once Lee & THJ's money are off the books. It feels like as long as THJ is locked into the starting unit the flexibility isn't there with the roster.

Watching the Jazz play 6'6 Royce O'Neale at PF with Gobert at C makes me think Covington can survive at PF being 6'9.

And that is mostly just to have KP playing generally at C. I just don't like him running on close outs on smaller players and guarding quicker PFs on defense. The guy just missed 10 games (and counting) due to a sore knee. I'm beginning to think he will frequently have these over the duration of his 5 year contract. As such, I'd prefer that he plays like Rudy Gobert and just sticks to the paint on D. He's actually good on D. Near elite IMO.

J_T · Post #336 » by **J_T** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:39 pm

arkuo wrote:
DJ_3_Ball wrote:
arkuo wrote:Getting Convington ticks a lot of boxes as he csn switch to bigs and guard them too. He is really good defensively which means him and DFS will be hounding the best opposing players while Luka and KP remain out of foul trouble. Covington is as big as Milsap and they are rhe same height. I think he can play PF here with KP at center. The boost in defense would be tremendous.

If the Lakers and Celtics can play Kuzma and Tatum at PF, then Covington most definitely can too.

The Mavs would never send Powell to the bench (right or wrong... if you ask me that's wrong), so Covington would send DFS to the bench, which isn't such a bad thing either. Imagine DFS & Wright on the floor together guarding a team's second unit. I think that'd give us some nice +/- #s vs opposing teams' 2nd unit.

Not sure it's a big boost for the playoffs, unless you can get Covington, DFS & Wright on the floor together. Then you start to have the makings of a good defensive squad.

I'm all for adding Covington (as long as the price isn't exorbitant), and while he solves a lot of problems, he creates a few for this team too.

I really don't think Donnie built this team for any mid-season changes. He probably didn't think they'd be necessary... I don't know. Maybe he built it to have complimentary pieces around the superstar they hope to add in 2021 once Lee & THJ's money are off the books. It feels like as long as THJ is locked into the starting unit the flexibility isn't there with the roster.

Watching the Jazz play 6'6 Royce O'Neale at PF with Gobert at C makes me think Covington can survive at PF being 6'9.

And that is mostly just to have KP playing generally at C. I just don't like him running on close outs on smaller players and guarding quicker PFs on defense. The guy just missed 10 games (and counting) due to a sore knee. I'm beginning to think he will frequently have these over the duration of his 5 year contract. As such, I'd prefer that he plays like Rudy Gobert and just sticks to the paint on D. He's actually good on D. Near elite IMO.

I was reading an article not long ago saying that around the league execs are thinking that Clippers have a problem because of lack of size in Harrell and Beverley and that might cost them the championship. It's an interesting take and we will see how it turns out but I think there is no doubt that it's always better to have size, if you can do it.

JamesConway · Post #337 » by **JamesConway** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:47 pm

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J_T · Post #338 » by **J_T** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:51 pm

I agree with the comment following that: "Color me extremely skeptical that the Mavericks are looking for another offensive player to add to their league best offense."

J_T · Post #339 » by **J_T** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:50 am

I'm accepting trades with Powell involved. His contract now officially looks bad. He is going to be out for a very very long time and who knows what he will look like once he is back.

Bluelabel24 · Post #340 » by **Bluelabel24** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:49 am

Really hope they make a trade soon. However im against them trading for a big name.. just a minor signing or trade with a low risk high reward possibility.
gonna share my earlier post

Damian Jones or Bruno Fernando from ATL. I think there a slight chance one could be available because ATL has 5 young PF/C
in Jabari Parker, Alex Len, John Collins(whos the most promising one), Jones, Fernando.

Damian Jones- 24yrs, solid defender, rebounder.

Bruno Fernando- 21yrs, Elite athlete, screen setter and rim protector.

Nicolas Claxton from BKN- 20yrs old, elite athlete and shot blocker, has a decent 3pt shot. Although body is slightly undersized at 225lbs but is still relatively young.

Mfiondu Kabengele. elite athlete who can shoot 3s and set great screens.
hope mavs go for Bruno fernando.
We are in dire need of a bruiser/ rebounder NOWW.