Mavericks - 2023 Preseason (G4. Oct. 20 vs Pistons 7p.m CST)

[Bob8]

I told you days ago... probably all the EL starting C are better then ours right now.

But this **** is good, maybe now they will trade for Capela or someone else.

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

Porier played much better than Taveres...

Those were Tavares' first minutes after being 2 weeks out, and because it's the beginning of the season, he's totally out of form. He was playoffs MVP last year. But it's also true that he likes Fiba rules a lot more.

Poirier looked like far the best C on the court and that says a lot about Mavs front court.

[Mavrelous]

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

Porier played much better than Taveres...

Those were Tavares' first minutes after being 2 weeks out, and because it's the beginning of the season, he's totally out of form. He was playoffs MVP last year. But it's also true that he likes Fiba rules a lot more.

Come on now, Mavs are a totally new team integrating rookies and new players, Real vets are old as dirt and know every trick in the book, Taveres played in FIBA WC...

[Bob8]

Porier played much better than Taveres...

Those were Tavares' first minutes after being 2 weeks out, and because it's the beginning of the season, he's totally out of form. He was playoffs MVP last year. But it's also true that he likes Fiba rules a lot more.

Come on now, Mavs are a totally new team integrating rookies and new players, Real vets are old as dirt and know every trick in the book, Taveres played in FIBA WC...

He was ill for 2 weeks, I'm sure you can understand what that does to the professional athlete body.

[Maverick41]

Exum and Williams have been pleasant surprises, Hardy and Green have been bad ones...
I also think DJJ should be ahead of OMax in the rotation, didn't do anything to stand out, but his rebounding, verticality and willling to attack empty spaces looks good.
Holmes looked much better on game 1 against the Wolves.
I have Exum ahead of Green/Hardy in rotation, and I think Kidd will start THJ

Green's been fine to me. He's shot over 40% from 3 in the 3 games combined and hasn't really done anything to me to constitute "bad." I'd still start him because although I think THJ would fit better offensively, man I shudder to think of him defending PoA. Green has also had some of the best +/- so far in these preseason games. I definitely don't see the "elite role player" that some posters here saw in him though.

I agree with Hardy. His stats look pretty good but his decision making is very questionable and the offense looked terrible everytime he was the primary ballhandler. I don't see Hardy playing much minutes when both Kyrie and Luka are healthy especially with Exum and Curry here.

As for DJJ vs Omax. I agree DJJ is the way to go right now. Omax needs some time in the G-League.

[Bob8]

Exum and Williams have been pleasant surprises, Hardy and Green have been bad ones...
I also think DJJ should be ahead of OMax in the rotation, didn't do anything to stand out, but his rebounding, verticality and willling to attack empty spaces looks good.
Holmes looked much better on game 1 against the Wolves.
I have Exum ahead of Green/Hardy in rotation, and I think Kidd will start THJ

Green's been fine to me. He's shot over 40% from 3 in the 3 games combined and hasn't really done anything to me to constitute "bad." I'd still start him because although I think THJ would fit better offensively, man I shudder to think of him defending PoA. Green has also had some of the best +/- so far in these preseason games. I definitely don't see the "elite role player" that some posters here saw in him though.

Yes over 40%, but only 2.3 attempts. 7/3/2 with bad TS% is pretty modest for someone, who wants to start, especially if other starter is averaging 3 points. THJ is capable of totally different volumes, that's his appeal. If you want to play something else than Luka Isos, those starters will need to give a lot more. Josh will need to show that he's capable of bigger volumes, if he wants to improve his game.

[Mavrelous]

Exum and Williams have been pleasant surprises, Hardy and Green have been bad ones...
I also think DJJ should be ahead of OMax in the rotation, didn't do anything to stand out, but his rebounding, verticality and willling to attack empty spaces looks good.
Holmes looked much better on game 1 against the Wolves.
I have Exum ahead of Green/Hardy in rotation, and I think Kidd will start THJ

Green's been fine to me. He's shot over 40% from 3 in the 3 games combined and hasn't really done anything to me to constitute "bad." I'd still start him because although I think THJ would fit better offensively, man I shudder to think of him defending PoA. Green has also had some of the best +/- so far in these preseason games. I definitely don't see the "elite role player" that some posters here saw in him though.

I agree with Hardy. His stats look pretty good but his decision making is very questionable and the offense looked terrible everytime he was the primary ballhandler. I don't see Hardy playing much minutes when both Kyrie and Luka are healthy especially with Exum and Curry here.

As for DJJ vs Omax. I agree DJJ is the way to go right now. Omax needs some time in the G-League.

He's not aggressive enough, in lineups with Lively, you need a quick trigger, THJ is a better fit, if Powell is the center, then Green is the better fit, and Luka can take the scoring load.

[arkuo]

Boban for Omax before the TDL. Who says no?

Boban is a legit center and Luka's friend.

[Archx]

Poirier is not starting C. Tavares was ill 2 weeks before this game.

Porier played much better than Taveres...

Those were Tavares' first minutes after being 2 weeks out, and because it's the beginning of the season, he's totally out of form. He was playoffs MVP last year. But it's also true that he likes Fiba rules a lot more.

Poirier looked like far the best C on the court and that says a lot about Mavs front court.

I wasn't impressed with Tavares even if he wasn't 100%. He didn't look comfortable playing under NBA rules. He likes to pack the paint but here he had to move a lot. Lively did quite well vs him.

Grant, Green and THJ minutes were huge positive +/-. I would assume that has to do with defense and THJ making some shots, even though he was in his usual chuking it up mode.

It will be a huge problem for Kidd to figure out who's more ready for 4th Q's clutch minutes. I would assume it will be Grant this time who will replace Maxi at C so Kyrie, Luka, Green, THJ and Grant will finish of games.

[Bob8]

Porier played much better than Taveres...

Those were Tavares' first minutes after being 2 weeks out, and because it's the beginning of the season, he's totally out of form. He was playoffs MVP last year. But it's also true that he likes Fiba rules a lot more.

Poirier looked like far the best C on the court and that says a lot about Mavs front court.

I wasn't impressed with Tavares even if he wasn't 100%. He didn't look comfortable playing under NBA rules. He likes to pack the paint but here he had to move a lot. Lively did quite well vs him.

Grant, Green and THJ minutes were huge positive +/-. I would assume that has to do with defense and THJ making some shots, even though he was in his usual chuking it up mode.

It will be a huge problem for Kidd to figure out who's more ready for 4th Q's clutch minutes. I would assume it will be Grant this time who will replace Maxi at C so Kyrie, Luka, Green, THJ and Grant will finish of games.

I'm watching many Real games and that wasn't normal Tavares. He was missing easy shots, FTs...

[Mavrelous]

P.S. Check at mark 1:39

Watch on YouTube

Powell hit in the face again

[daoneandonly]

Its sadly been a pathetic preseason thus far, and likely a tale of whats to come. This FO is incompetent. Cuban quickly went from best owner to worst (now that Sarver is gone). Nico Harrison ahs no business running an NBA team, should have been fired the moment he brought the KP trade to Washington to Cuban's office.

I still dont believe the Luka-Kyrie paring will work, and hoping Dallas can come to its senses and trade him. Both are great players, but they miss too much time, limited defensively, and neither are strong/mature leaders, you just cant have that as your 2 best players. WHy this teams insists Hardy is a PG is inexplicable. He can be a decent volume scoring 2G, nothing wrong with that, but he's not a lead playmaker. Green is what he is and always ahd been, a terrible draft pick and a mistake the team just cant admit.

[BliscoSantos]

The guard positions are well covered, but the big men lineup(PF and C) is horrible...Mavs need massive upgrades at PF and C...Maxi ,Dwight should be 15 min a game ,tops,players
Grant Williams is a good Player but he's basicaly the third most inportant Player on the Mavs and he was out of the rotation in Boston(in the playoffs)

I'm also more and more convinced that Kidd Just Got lucky when the Mavs got to the WCF...he 's not a good Head coach...he would be better as an assistant

[41Dirk41]

The guard positions are well covered, but the big men lineup(PF and C) is horrible...Mavs need massive upgrades at PF and C...Maxi ,Dwight should be 15 min a game ,tops,players
Grant Williams is a good Player but he's basicaly the third most inportant Player on the Mavs and he was out of the rotation in Boston(in the playoffs)

I'm also more and more convinced that Kidd Just Got lucky when the Mavs got to the WCF...he 's not a good Head coach...he would be better as an assistant

Agree.

That WCF was a disgrace for us... and we lost Brunson that summer.

[BliscoSantos]

Lively did OK so far..he might become a good C in the league,but it's gonna take time
I Just can't shake the feeling that the Mavs would have been better off trading for Ayton(if the rumors about Suns willing to accept the offer without McGee were true) and drafting Whitmore...by resigning Kyrie they made the decision to try to compete but then they draft two very raw rookies,who are gonna need a lot of time and make a lot of mistakes... it's like they try to compete and rebuild at the same time...like someone said,the time to rebuild the roster ,get Younger,was two years ago...now they risk throwing away yet another season
But maybe they actually have a plan,who knows, and want to retool(get a third star next season)? ...but if the history has tought us anything is that free agents Don't come to Mavs...besides they don't have capspace,and they don't really have any assets to offer in a trade(if someone would want to come)
Nico Will have to work some magic on the trade market cause Kidd sure doesn't have any coaching plan

[Spates]

Boban for Omax before the TDL. Who says no?

Boban is a legit center and Luka's friend.

How about Omax for Precious Achiuwa?

[Captain_Obvious]

Risk it on Kai Jones?

Can't be worse than Holmes who is only kept as a contract

[Bob8]

I don't believe they are willing to do anything else than go all in with their 12th pick. Excuse is already there, he's just a rookie. 3/5; - 24 netrtg. The most hated player in Mavs, Powell, has +15.5 netrtg. And maybe even more interesting, he had positive netrtg in every season since 2017.

[41Dirk41]

I don't believe they are willing to do anything else than go all in with their 12th pick. Excuse is already there, he's just a rookie. 3/5; - 24 netrtg. The most hated player in Mavs, Powell, has +15.5 netrtg. And maybe even more interesting, he had positive netrtg in every season since 2017.

Yes, it's very easy play at C for the Mavs with Luka... just make good screens.

I can immagine a real starting C could do.

Btw i think they will make a (desperate) move, Kidd's job is on the line from day 1 this season... he will push for a trade.

[Mavrelous]

Risk it on Kai Jones?

Can't be worse than Holmes who is only kept as a contract

In a vacuum his talent is totally worth it, but he's in some mental crisis, I think he needs to heal...

[Captain_Obvious]

Risk it on Kai Jones?

Can't be worse than Holmes who is only kept as a contract

In a vacuum his talent is totally worth it, but he's in some mental crisis, I think he needs to heal...

we can fix him...

it probably would be a mistake