Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[Pinkyring]

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Dont know the kid but when was the last time a potential top 10 pick actually stayed in school? It's not smart at all

[2011Champs]

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Dont know the kid but when was the last time a potential top 10 pick actually stayed in school? It's not smart at all

Way too many things can go wrong. You got to take the money if you are first round talent. When your NBA career is over then you can go back to college if you want to further your education.

[Devassa]

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Dont know the kid but when was the last time a potential top 10 pick actually stayed in school? It's not smart at all

Way too many things can go wrong. You got to take the money if you are first round talent. When your NBA career is over then you can go back to college if you want to further your education.

Bold move but I didn't really want him very much anyway. Plenty of prospects just as tantalizing

[dirkforpres]

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I was leaning toward trading the pick anyway, but if he does in fact stay then I would be fully on board with trading it away. Would love for us to be able to get a package together for a player like George (as unlikely as it is) or Bledsoe (more likely)

[Pinkyring]

I was on the trade pick but im not now, i like bledsoe a lot but he doesnt move the needle much and we are already paying 2 non needle movers max money with barnes and if we resign noel, add bledsoe and we are paying 3 guys 75m who dont gove us a legit chance at a top 4 seed let alone title contention. Ofcourse i give almost anything for george but short of george or butler I'd pass, even if we get a guy thats a great 6th man I'd take that at 4m a year over bledsoe

[JamesConway]

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They now have DAL drafting Ntilikina at #10

[2011Champs]

Dont know the kid but when was the last time a potential top 10 pick actually stayed in school? It's not smart at all

Way too many things can go wrong. You got to take the money if you are first round talent. When your NBA career is over then you can go back to college if you want to further your education.

Bold move but I didn't really want him very much anyway. Plenty of prospects just as tantalizing

No, I don't want him either but that is one less player to be in the board before Mav's selection essentially making our pick less valuable by a player.

[2011Champs]

Jackson is essentially a less robotic Harrison Barnes.

[Jinra]

If Markkanen is the best available when we pick, then I would be ok with that. However, my preference is a player with (rebounding, defense, athleticism and an offensive game) a 2-way game. If we end up outside the top 10, I would strongly consider looking to package that trade for a prime starter at any position.

[Mr B]

Would pairing Markkanen with Noel be like pairing a young Dirk and Tyson?

[dirkforpres]

Would pairing Markkanen with Noel be like pairing a young Dirk and Tyson?

There will never be another Dirk

[Jinra]

Would pairing Markkanen with Noel be like pairing a young Dirk and Tyson?

There will never be another Dirk

Markkanen\Noel might resemble those guys, but they are too far off to put them under that kind of pressure.

[Mr B]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

[Jinra]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

You have a point there; but too, you have to remember there have been a lot of players come through the NBA with that same style and just couldn't make the cut. They will most certainly have to work hard to meet that potential.

[Teffer10]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

I think you are absolutely right but the Mavs are in a slight predicament with Barnes and Noel at the 4/5. If Mavs draft Markkanen we're either keeping our top draft pick on the bench or putting a $20+mil player on the bench.

Markkanen makes a lot of sense for this team but only if Barnes moves to the 3 which likely won't happen.
I don't think it is outrageous to expect our pick to be a starter within 2 years and consider him a bust if he isn't.
Not sure Markkanen would ever crack the starting lineup and if he does it will probably be at the 5 which would be a nightmare in terms of defensive and rebounding with Barnes at the 4.

[Teffer10]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

You have a point there; but too, you have to remember there have been a lot of players come through the NBA with that same style and just couldn't make the cut. They will most certainly have to work hard to meet that potential.

One of the intriguing things about drafting Markkanen would be having Dirk (and Holger) as a mentor to work with him at least the last year or two that Dirk is on the team (and hopefully after).
Lauri would definitely have to have the work ethic to become a great player and assert himself into a large role. You are correct that always doesn't happen and one of the main concerns I have about rebuilding through the draft.

[Mr B]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

I think you are absolutely right but the Mavs are in a slight predicament with Barnes and Noel at the 4/5. If Mavs draft Markkanen we're either keeping our top draft pick on the bench or putting a $20+mil player on the bench.

Markkanen makes a lot of sense for this team but only if Barnes moves to the 3 which likely won't happen.
I don't think it is outrageous to expect our pick to be a starter within 2 years and consider him a bust if he isn't.
Not sure Markkanen would ever crack the starting lineup and if he does it will probably be at the 5 which would be a nightmare in terms of defensive and rebounding with Barnes at the 4.

Noel will be the starting 5 by next season. I also don't see any reason Barnes can't play the 3. There can still be lineups where Barnes moves to the 4 or Noel to the 4. Carlisle will figure it out. I would love to see Dirk work with Markkanen.

[Mr B]

I'm referring to style of play. Point is, if they are then we already know that style of play works. They will have their growing pains and the team still needs a starting PG but their style of play works well together (as we've all seen in Dirk/Tyson).

You have a point there; but too, you have to remember there have been a lot of players come through the NBA with that same style and just couldn't make the cut. They will most certainly have to work hard to meet that potential.

One of the intriguing things about drafting Markkanen would be having Dirk (and Holger) as a mentor to work with him at least the last year or two that Dirk is on the team (and hopefully after).
Lauri would definitely have to have the work ethic to become a great player and assert himself into a large role. You are correct that always doesn't happen and one of the main concerns I have about rebuilding through the draft.

Rebuilding through the draft is definitely a crap shoot. Before this season I wasn't too sure this front office was capable of rebuilding through the draft. After what they've done this year though with turning over the roster, I have faith they will find the right player with their pick this year.

Question though... is there a young player (1st or 2nd year) in the NBA right now that you would be willing to trade our top pick for? What if Denver offers up Emmanuel Mudiay?

[Jinra]

For me, oh yes.... Jusuf Nurkic, Nikola Mirotic, Aaron Gordon, Andrew Wiggins, Devin Booker, any of LA's young players, Dario Saric.

Edit: I left out oft-injured players like Jabari Parker and Ben Simmons

[2011Champs]

Would pairing Markkanen with Noel be like pairing a young Dirk and Tyson?

Yes, in my opinion. It's an athletic shot blocking center next to a stretch four. Same type frontcourt. Not making a direct player comparison, just a style comparison.