Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread

[GermanFan120]

Mavs must do everything to keep DJJ. He is literally invaluable at this point.

[GermanFan120]

Would Pascal Siakam make sense for this team? I understand he's a free agent so a S&T would have to be worked out.

No we don't want choker like Siakam. DJJ is WAY better.

[BeiBeau]

Mavs must do everything to keep DJJ. He is literally invaluable at this point.

We need to shave money off the THJ spot to pay him.

THJ, Tor 2nd, Cash for Thybulle saves 5 million and give us insurance in case DJJ does leave.

THJ, 25 1st, Prosper for Caruso gives us a DJJ upgrade and saves enough money that we can probably bring back DJJ as well.

[41Dirk41]

DJJ wants to stay here, he said that multiple times.
The chemistry of the roster is amazing.

We need Hardy to step up next year and a backup wing bigger than Green.

Exum and THJ can stay but the are a RS guys.
No more.

Thybulle is unplayable, i can't believe that someone still want him. Thank Portland for matching the offer.

[dirkules_41]

Mavs must do everything to keep DJJ. He is literally invaluable at this point.

We need to shave money off the THJ spot to pay him.

THJ, Tor 2nd, Cash for Thybulle saves 5 million and give us insurance in case DJJ does leave.

THJ, 25 1st, Prosper for Caruso gives us a DJJ upgrade and saves enough money that we can probably bring back DJJ as well.

Have you been drinking heavily over the weekend?
Thybulle would be DNP-CD in these playoff series, entirely unplayable with 0 offensive role. The guy doesn't even sniff minutes against Green on the Aussie NT.

Let me repeat this: You want to trade a significant expiring productive bench scorer, a 1st, last years first (in essence pretty much all our remaining usable assets) for a guy who plays almost all of this minutes at a spot where we have Luka and Kyrie?

[dirkules_41]

Would Pascal Siakam make sense for this team? I understand he's a free agent so a S&T would have to be worked out.

No we don't want choker like Siakam. DJJ is WAY better.

I'd say Siakam is a significantly better player all-around but DJJ is just far better value for money and a much better fit for this Mavs team

[BeiBeau]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

[dirkules_41]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

[BeiBeau]

Mavs must do everything to keep DJJ. He is literally invaluable at this point.

We need to shave money off the THJ spot to pay him.

THJ, Tor 2nd, Cash for Thybulle saves 5 million and give us insurance in case DJJ does leave.

THJ, 25 1st, Prosper for Caruso gives us a DJJ upgrade and saves enough money that we can probably bring back DJJ as well.

Have you been drinking heavily over the weekend?
Thybulle would be DNP-CD in these playoff series, entirely unplayable with 0 offensive role. The guy doesn't even sniff minutes against Green on the Aussie NT.

Let me repeat this: You want to trade a significant expiring productive bench scorer, a 1st, last years first (in essence pretty much all our remaining usable assets) for a guy who plays almost all of this minutes at a spot where we have Luka and Kyrie?

1. Thybulle is in the same position that DJJ was in last year and is already a better shooter and as good of a defender.

2. NT doesn’t matter.

3. Do you want to bring DJJ back or not? Dallas has to shave money. 2 years 11 million is what Dallas can offer right now. DJJ wants to come back but he won’t want to come back when the difference between what we can offer and what he can get on the market is 40 million. Dallas needs to come correct with a 3 year 40 million dollar contract.

4. THJ is not productive in the playoffs and when we’re as good as we are now, playoffs is the only thing that matters.

5. Hardy is better than THJ at **** everything at this point. Well except for having no shame and just jacking up terrible looks.

6. Caruso is the best POA defender in the league on an insanely team friendly deal.

7. Basketball is positionless. Luka plays the 1 offensively but the 3 or 4 defensively. Caruso guards 1-3 defensively and shoots from the corner offensively. In no way shape or form does he not fit with Luka and Kyrie.

[41Dirk41]

Would Pascal Siakam make sense for this team? I understand he's a free agent so a S&T would have to be worked out.

No we don't want choker like Siakam. DJJ is WAY better.

I'd say Siakam is a significantly better player all-around but DJJ is just far better value for money and a much better fit for this Mavs team

Yes Siakam is obviously a better player than DJJ (and he costs 4 times more than him probably ) but DJJ is a great fit here. He knows his role, he plays with heart and connection with PJ and Gaff is amazing.

[BeiBeau]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

[dirkules_41]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.

[BeiBeau]

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.

This was DJJ’s best 3pt shooting season of his career in terms of both volume and percentage. That’s because Luka is feeding him open looks.

Thybulle is already shooting a higher percentage from 3 on a higher volume without Luka feeding him.

In DJJ’s 8 year career, 12 of his 15 highest scoring games came this season. DJJ has twice as many 20 point games in the first month and a half to start this season than he did in his entire 7 year career. Thybulle is a NBA rotation level player if you give him wide open looks he will be moderately effective.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

Nico has looked like a great GM this year. Last offseason he valued Thybulle much more then DJJ

[GermanFan120]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

Thybulle is Josh Green of Rudy Gobert.

So no thanks.

[GermanFan120]

Y’all are smoking something, Thybulle is on par with DJJ defensively and is a better shooter with less Luka open looks.

We were saying the same things about DJJ in the offseason and when J Kidd wanted to start him and when he scored 1 point in his 1st game.

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.

[daoneandonly]

Resigning DJj J should be priority #1. If that means unloading THJ with a minor incentive(like Tor 2nd) or Josh Green, you have to explore it. We could also use a legit backup PG since Exum isn't so reliable

[dirkules_41]

Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.

The day has come when we are fully aligned on something.

[dirkules_41]

We need to shave money off the THJ spot to pay him.

THJ, Tor 2nd, Cash for Thybulle saves 5 million and give us insurance in case DJJ does leave.

THJ, 25 1st, Prosper for Caruso gives us a DJJ upgrade and saves enough money that we can probably bring back DJJ as well.

Have you been drinking heavily over the weekend?
Thybulle would be DNP-CD in these playoff series, entirely unplayable with 0 offensive role. The guy doesn't even sniff minutes against Green on the Aussie NT.

Let me repeat this: You want to trade a significant expiring productive bench scorer, a 1st, last years first (in essence pretty much all our remaining usable assets) for a guy who plays almost all of this minutes at a spot where we have Luka and Kyrie?

1. Thybulle is in the same position that DJJ was in last year and is already a better shooter and as good of a defender.

2. NT doesn’t matter.

3. Do you want to bring DJJ back or not? Dallas has to shave money. 2 years 11 million is what Dallas can offer right now. DJJ wants to come back but he won’t want to come back when the difference between what we can offer and what he can get on the market is 40 million. Dallas needs to come correct with a 3 year 40 million dollar contract.

4. THJ is not productive in the playoffs and when we’re as good as we are now, playoffs is the only thing that matters.

5. Hardy is better than THJ at **** everything at this point. Well except for having no shame and just jacking up terrible looks.

6. Caruso is the best POA defender in the league on an insanely team friendly deal.

7. Basketball is positionless. Luka plays the 1 offensively but the 3 or 4 defensively. Caruso guards 1-3 defensively and shoots from the corner offensively. In no way shape or form does he not fit with Luka and Kyrie.

1. Thybulle has basically no offensive game, unlike DJJ who is a decent cutter and DJJ is a much better 2pt finisher/shooter
2. It very much does unless you had too much stars and stripes for breakfast
3. obviously we'll need DJJ back but that's completely unrelated to and doesn't excuse making awful trades
4. the main point there was all the other assets and you're well aware of that so stop adding meaningless points to a list just to make it longer. but to play your petty game: THJ can put up 20 a game for a meaningless team in the RS for sure
5. again, completely unrelated thing that nobody contested just to give you a list to post
6. Caruso fills no need that's glaring enough to devoid us of all remaining assets
7. see 6. You really had fun turning 2.5 points into 7 for **** and giggles, eh?

[dirkules_41]

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

I'm sure everyone here is on board with trading THJ this summer but not in such a pos unbalanced losing trade. Surely Nico will come up with something better than this crap.

[Dmavs12]

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?

He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.

This was DJJ’s best 3pt shooting season of his career in terms of both volume and percentage. That’s because Luka is feeding him open looks.

Thybulle is already shooting a higher percentage from 3 on a higher volume without Luka feeding him.

In DJJ’s 8 year career, 12 of his 15 highest scoring games came this season. DJJ has twice as many 20 point games in the first month and a half to start this season than he did in his entire 7 year career. Thybulle is a NBA rotation level player if you give him wide open looks he will be moderately effective.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

Nico has looked like a great GM this year. Last offseason he valued Thybulle much more then DJJ

100% agree. The Luka effect is real. Nico was hunting this guy, and my trust factor in his decisions cannot be higher. If Nico wants him, I hope they can find a way to get it done in the offseason. As for DJJ, I definitely want him back, but I wouldn’t blame Nico, or Cuban, for playing a little hardball here. The guy was a NBA journeyman before finding a great fit in Dallas. Any team wanting to pay him big money, outside of Dallas, is taking a big risk. I would offer up a contract that matches the years left on Kyries deal, but allows them flexibility to add another key player, like Caruso.
If I’m Nico, all my tweaks this offseason are going to be geared towards upgrading the roster to better handle the 5 out teams like Boston and OKC. Bostons already there, and OKC is a Markkenan away from being a nightmare.