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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#341 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:30 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:What Bob8 said it's Luka condition it's a problem but it doesn't affect Mavs too much indeed we made Finals 7 months ago... What Nico Harrison made last night will ruin the franchise for sure and for a lot of years to come.

You can't compare the 2 situations.


I was on the GB arging for Luka to win MVP last year, and defending his character assasination by Windhorst after game 3, you can go check.
Luka missed 22 games this year due to the shape he came into the season with, this is the 1st year year he had a full year with proper roster and he didn't come ready.


Man, did you ever played any sport? Did you ever got injured? Was that injury because of being in bad shape? Looney kicked his heal, I would say he was lucky that he didn't tore his Achilles. This nonsense about his calf injury because of bad conditioning should stop, because it's as stupid as it gets.

But to be honest, I'm glad that Luka is out of this **** organisation, which has thrown him under the bus for some reason. Like I said he will be ok and Mavs and fans won't need to worry about Luka's conditioning anymore. Win-win.


I strained my calf once and my hamstring the other, by playing basketball out of shape and attempting a change in direction.
I am 100% convinced Luka's calf strain is a direct result of his conditioning.
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Post#342 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:32 pm

Honestly I would have preferred to have Luka and talk about how many titles he would have won if he had been in excellent condition his whole career (maybe with just ring no problem ) instead of this crap...
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#343 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:33 pm

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Bob8 wrote:I'm not deflecting anything, I'm just trying to tell you that when you get superstar, you got him with everything good and bad. You're buying and paying a player not some best case fictional scenario. Was Shaq in the best possible shape? No. But he was good enough to win multiple titles with the right players around him. Luka will never had work ethic like MJ or Kobe, but he's still good enough to win multiple titles in the right environment. He was good enough of winning title, if Mavs FO could build a contender with both him and Brunson on a rookie contract. They would have much better team last year, if they didn't let Brunson gone for nothing. I believe they would be even better this year, if they could waited for all coming back from injuries. Apparently they couldn't afford to wait.

That's just not true, superstars can and do change and improve.
I love the fact you bring up Shaq, Shaq was the biggest combination of skill, size and power, he should have dominated the league like Russel, instead, he barely squeaked 4 titles and was carried by dobius officiating in 2002 and 2006, and by Kobe saving him in 2000 WCF against the Blazers.
Shaq is the prime example for a player under performing his potential, he would have been in GOAT talks if he wasn't petty and lazy.
Dirk himself changed a lot, but Shaq is the exception, go over the top 25 players all time, and find me another example like Shaq.
I don't expect Luka to have a 6 pack, I do expect him to be below 250 lbs, preferably 240, if he wants to continue being a PG.


Luka is not Dirk. Luka is not MJ. Luka is a generational talent, without great work ethic, like Shaq. He's not the GOAT, but he's top 3 player in the league. Apparently that's enough for him. It's not enough for Nico, so Mavs fans will be able to watch far less talented players but having better work ethic from now on. How did Nico say yesterday, adding to team culture. :lol:

He's below 250, don't believe in everything you read.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#344 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:35 pm

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I was on the GB arging for Luka to win MVP last year, and defending his character assasination by Windhorst after game 3, you can go check.
Luka missed 22 games this year due to the shape he came into the season with, this is the 1st year year he had a full year with proper roster and he didn't come ready.


Man, did you ever played any sport? Did you ever got injured? Was that injury because of being in bad shape? Looney kicked his heal, I would say he was lucky that he didn't tore his Achilles. This nonsense about his calf injury because of bad conditioning should stop, because it's as stupid as it gets.

But to be honest, I'm glad that Luka is out of this **** organisation, which has thrown him under the bus for some reason. Like I said he will be ok and Mavs and fans won't need to worry about Luka's conditioning anymore. Win-win.


I strained my calf once and my hamstring the other, by playing basketball out of shape and attempting a change in direction.
I am 100% convinced Luka's calf strain is a direct result of his conditioning.


Calf strain and hamstring are 2 totally different injuries. Look at video, where Looney kicks him.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#345 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:37 pm

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Man, did you ever played any sport? Did you ever got injured? Was that injury because of being in bad shape? Looney kicked his heal, I would say he was lucky that he didn't tore his Achilles. This nonsense about his calf injury because of bad conditioning should stop, because it's as stupid as it gets.

But to be honest, I'm glad that Luka is out of this **** organisation, which has thrown him under the bus for some reason. Like I said he will be ok and Mavs and fans won't need to worry about Luka's conditioning anymore. Win-win.


I strained my calf once and my hamstring the other, by playing basketball out of shape and attempting a change in direction.
I am 100% convinced Luka's calf strain is a direct result of his conditioning.


Calf strain and hamstring are 2 totally different injuries. Look at video, where Looney kicks him.


Looney caused his heel contusion, his calf strain happened in the Wolves game when he applied pressure on it, exactly like it happened in in the Spurs game, and exactly how I strained my calf, this is a function of weight and conditioning.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#346 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:42 pm

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I strained my calf once and my hamstring the other, by playing basketball out of shape and attempting a change in direction.
I am 100% convinced Luka's calf strain is a direct result of his conditioning.


Calf strain and hamstring are 2 totally different injuries. Look at video, where Looney kicks him.


Looney caused his heel contusion, his calf strain happened in the Wolves game when he applied pressure on it, exactly like it happened in in the Spurs game, and exactly how I strained my calf, this is a function of weight and conditioning.


Heel, Achilles and calf are all connected. Mavs just **** up and let him play too soon.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#347 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:43 pm

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Calf strain and hamstring are 2 totally different injuries. Look at video, where Looney kicks him.


Looney caused his heel contusion, his calf strain happened in the Wolves game when he applied pressure on it, exactly like it happened in in the Spurs game, and exactly how I strained my calf, this is a function of weight and conditioning.


Heel, Achilles and calf are all connected. Mavs just **** up and let him play too soon.

That's just a wild speculation, especially when it's not the 1st time Luka has calf issues and calf strains happen all the time without heel contusion before.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#348 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:48 pm

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Looney caused his heel contusion, his calf strain happened in the Wolves game when he applied pressure on it, exactly like it happened in in the Spurs game, and exactly how I strained my calf, this is a function of weight and conditioning.


Heel, Achilles and calf are all connected. Mavs just **** up and let him play too soon.

That's just a wild speculation, especially when it's not the 1st time Luka has calf issues and calf strains happen all the time without heel contusion before.


It's not a speculation. He never had that serious calf injury before. And he really didn't do almost anything, when injury happened. It's very plausible that small tear just worsened. Sport doctor in Slovenia said that medical staff in Nba is on pretty low level, watching what injuries Luka has.

The funniest part is that this is first time Luka being out more than 2 weeks in his career and we're talking like he's nonstop injured. AD on the other hand...
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#349 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:51 pm

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Heel, Achilles and calf are all connected. Mavs just **** up and let him play too soon.

That's just a wild speculation, especially when it's not the 1st time Luka has calf issues and calf strains happen all the time without heel contusion before.


It's not a speculation. He never had that serious calf injury before. And he really didn't do almost anything, when injury happened. It's very plausible that small tear just worsened.

The funniest part is that this is first time Luka being out more than 2 weeks in his career and we're talking he's nonstop injured.

Luka had calf strain against the Spurs in 22 and missed the 1st 3 PO games...
No he wasn't injuted non-stop, but this year specifically his shape caught on to him.
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Post#350 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:55 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:That's just a wild speculation, especially when it's not the 1st time Luka has calf issues and calf strains happen all the time without heel contusion before.


It's not a speculation. He never had that serious calf injury before. And he really didn't do almost anything, when injury happened. It's very plausible that small tear just worsened.

The funniest part is that this is first time Luka being out more than 2 weeks in his career and we're talking he's nonstop injured.

Luka had calf strain against the Spurs in 22 and missed the 1st 3 PO games...
No he wasn't injuted non-stop, but this year specifically his shape caught on to him.


10 days out or something like that, not exactly something bad.

Ok let's say it's Luka's fault. What about Lively, who is missing a lot more games than Luka. Bad conditioning? What about Kyrie? Kleber? Exum? What about KD? What about AD, Kawhi, PG13, CP3...? All bad conditioned?
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Post#351 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:58 pm

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It's not a speculation. He never had that serious calf injury before. And he really didn't do almost anything, when injury happened. It's very plausible that small tear just worsened.

The funniest part is that this is first time Luka being out more than 2 weeks in his career and we're talking he's nonstop injured.

Luka had calf strain against the Spurs in 22 and missed the 1st 3 PO games...
No he wasn't injuted non-stop, but this year specifically his shape caught on to him.


10 days out or something like that, not exactly something bad.

Ok let's say it's Luka's fault. What about Lively, who is missing a lot more games than Luka. Bad conditioning? What about Kyrie? What about KD? What about AD, Kawhi, PG13, CP3...? All bad conditioned?


Lively, Maxi and Kyrie are very injury prone, but their injuries are bruises and joint sprains, not muscle strains.
KD, PG, CP3 are old and Kawhi has degenerative knee condition.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#352 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:04 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Luka had calf strain against the Spurs in 22 and missed the 1st 3 PO games...
No he wasn't injuted non-stop, but this year specifically his shape caught on to him.


10 days out or something like that, not exactly something bad.

Ok let's say it's Luka's fault. What about Lively, who is missing a lot more games than Luka. Bad conditioning? What about Kyrie? What about KD? What about AD, Kawhi, PG13, CP3...? All bad conditioned?


Lively, Maxi and Kyrie are very injury prone, but their injuries are bruises and joint sprains, not muscle strains.
KD, PG, CP3 are old and Kawhi has degenerative knee condition.


It doesn't matter what is the reason, injuries happen, there's no conditioning that can prevent them 100%. Soccer players are in pretty good shape, and they have muscle strains all the time. Big players like Luka are probably more prone to this injuries, but we're back at genetics. Luka can't change his body type much, I honestly doubt it, he would be as good with his teenager body anyway.

More importantly, injuries had minimal influence on his career so far and we're talking like they're crucial. It will be funny to watch Luka making fun of Nico, when he sees him beside the court, like he did with Divac.
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Post#353 » by Cappy_Smurf » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:09 pm

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I'd also be mad at the package you guys got back and remember that Rudy Gobert got 4 1st rounders when he got traded.


It's a horrible trade, but your example is flawed. Gobert got those picks with absolutely no significant players included. You have to include the value of Davis which is probably at least 3 picks. Gobert also had 3 years left on his contract, which is not the norm.

Dallas was looking for a return that would allow them retool, not rebuild.
New York said Mitchell wasn't the guy you trade the sink for, then they traded it for Mikal, lol.
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Post#354 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:13 pm

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He was too demanding? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#355 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:49 pm

Luka bought a 15M house in DAL, he wasn't planning on leaving.
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Post#356 » by MassimoPayne » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:22 pm

What if the masterpiece is that Luka does not resign with the Lakers but comes back to Dallas.
They got AD for Maxi
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Post#357 » by Bob8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:40 pm

MassimoPayne wrote:What if the masterpiece is that Luka does not resign with the Lakers but comes back to Dallas.
They got AD for Maxi


Luka will return in Dallas only to destroy them on the court.
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Post#358 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:02 pm

MassimoPayne wrote:What if the masterpiece is that Luka does not resign with the Lakers but comes back to Dallas.
They got AD for Maxi


Luka will come only with Harrison,Kidd and Adelsons out of the city. And he is right.
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Post#359 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:37 pm

REPORT: The Luka Doncic-Anthony Davis trade originally included multiple firsts and Dalton Knecht, per @kirkgoldsberry

Well done Nico, don't let Fakers pay too much.
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Post#360 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:42 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Luka bought a 15M house in DAL, he wasn't planning on leaving.
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Seeing Luka cry is absurd.
We had a superstar in his prime who wants to stay here and we dumped him.

This organization deserves bad stuffs... A lot of bad stuffs, they killed a fanbase. Bastards.

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