Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Super Cooper]

Its a forum where we are sharing our thoughts on what would make our team better so yeah, we'll post said opinions and discuss. If the mods deem it inappropriate to board rules, they'll intervene.

But just because you don't like AD being called out for showing up out of shape or refusing to play the 5 doesnt mean we have to stop doing it

Basically what you’re saying, if you don’t like it you can GTFO.

Does that sound about right?

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

Thank you.

[Mr B]

Its a forum where we are sharing our thoughts on what would make our team better so yeah, we'll post said opinions and discuss. If the mods deem it inappropriate to board rules, they'll intervene.

But just because you don't like AD being called out for showing up out of shape or refusing to play the 5 doesnt mean we have to stop doing it

Basically what you’re saying, if you don’t like it you can GTFO.

Does that sound about right?

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

[Super Cooper]

Basically what you’re saying, if you don’t like it you can GTFO.

Does that sound about right?

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

[Mavrelous]

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

Good idea, team now has Flagg, he's a reason to celebrate and watch, it's already exciting to watch and discuss.

[Super Cooper]

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

Good idea, team now has Flagg, he's a reason to celebrate and watch, it's already exciting to watch and discuss.

Amen. And for me, I prefer the big lineups. This season is going to be exciting.

[Mr B]

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

This board used to be a lot of fun with lots of posters. The negativity has definitely driven most of them away.

As for the team, I’m loving the big lineup. Obviously there will be some matchup problems and the team will adjust their lineup but it’s fun to see. Personally I’m very excited for the season and can’t wait to see how Cooper progresses.

[Mavrelous]

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

Good idea, team now has Flagg, he's a reason to celebrate and watch, it's already exciting to watch and discuss.

Amen. And for me, I prefer the big lineups. This season is going to be exciting.

I'm skeptical, Wolves lineup worked because KAT and Reid are elite shooters, AD only successful season was when he shot abnormally high.
Rockets offense is putrid with or w/o double bigs, big lineups gave them a lot of secomd chance points, but AD isn't a novice, he knows jis stuff, so I'll give him the benifit of the doubt, though my preference is to have AD as a C.

[Super Cooper]

https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-golden-ticket-to-replacing-young-flamethrower-is-right-in-front-of-them

Overstated, but I would completely rather Nemhardt than Hardy.

[Bob8]

He said no such thing, I am baffled you got this interpretation from his post, he said that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and everyone indeed is.
I've been pretty hands off, I'm not around as much, and it's very quiet since the season hasn't started, but I don't remember ever demanding anyone to leave.
Now that the season is starting hopefully we'll leave the theoretical bickering behind and start discussing what we'll be watching.

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

And if opinion is that Mavs big roster won't work? What then? Kill the messenger?

Anyone watching basketball knows that Mavs big roster can't bring success, because there isn't enough creativity and shooting. Yes Rockets have big roster too, but their C can shoot and playmake and their Pf is one of the best scorers in the league.

This is forum, where different opinions should be heard not just fans club, where everyone hope for the best.

[Mavrelous]

https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-golden-ticket-to-replacing-young-flamethrower-is-right-in-front-of-them

Overstated, but I would completely rather Nemhardt than Hardy.

Hardy won the lottery signing that extention, he'd be out of the league otherwise.
Hopefully he's used as a trade filler at the deadline.

[Super Cooper]

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

And if opinion is that Mavs big roster won't work? What then? Kill the messenger?

Anyone watching basketball knows that Mavs big roster can't bring success, because there isn't enough creativity and shooting. Yes Rockets have big roster too, but their C can shoot and playmake and their Pf is one of the best scorers in the league.

This is forum, where different opinions should be heard not just fans club, where everyone hope for the best.

I did not complain about disagreeing. It's the visceral negativity from some posters here. Reading some of these posts I'm wondering if someone should do a well check lol

If you don't want AD, what are your suggestions on replacing him?

[Bob8]

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

And if opinion is that Mavs big roster won't work? What then? Kill the messenger?

Anyone watching basketball knows that Mavs big roster can't bring success, because there isn't enough creativity and shooting. Yes Rockets have big roster too, but their C can shoot and playmake and their Pf is one of the best scorers in the league.

This is forum, where different opinions should be heard not just fans club, where everyone hope for the best.

I did not complain about disagreeing. It's the visceral negativity from some posters here. Reading some of these posts I'm wondering if someone should do a well check lol

If you don't want AD, what are your suggestions on replacing him?

It's not only about AD, it's about roster who was built around Luka, who was basically the whole Mavs system. Lively, Gafford, PJ, AD, Flagg are all doing similar things, but unfortunately they're similarly bad in others. People are talking about Rockets, but Sengun is better playmaker than everyone from Mavs, KD is better shooter than everyone from Mavs. And they have great wings and POA defenders. Similar team, but built a lot better. Basketball is not just putting good players together, it's about building the roster, where players complement each other.

Mavs are theoretically great rim protectors and great paint defenders, but unfortunately they're bad in everything else. No shooting, no creativity and no perimeter D.

[Super Cooper]

And if opinion is that Mavs big roster won't work? What then? Kill the messenger?

Anyone watching basketball knows that Mavs big roster can't bring success, because there isn't enough creativity and shooting. Yes Rockets have big roster too, but their C can shoot and playmake and their Pf is one of the best scorers in the league.

This is forum, where different opinions should be heard not just fans club, where everyone hope for the best.

I did not complain about disagreeing. It's the visceral negativity from some posters here. Reading some of these posts I'm wondering if someone should do a well check lol

If you don't want AD, what are your suggestions on replacing him?

It's not only about AD, it's about roster who was built around Luka, who was basically the whole Mavs system. Lively, Gafford, PJ, AD, Flagg are all doing similar things, but unfortunately they're similarly bad in others. People are talking about Rockets, but Sengun is better playmaker than everyone from Mavs, KD is better shooter than everyone from Mavs. And they have great wings and POA defenders. Similar team, built a lot better. Basketball is not just putting good players together, it's about building the roster, where players complement each other.

Mavs are theoretically great rim protectors and great paint defenders, but unfortunately they're bad in everything else. No shooting, no creativity and no perimeter D.

Perimeter D... AD is still a really good switching big. Him, PJ, Max, and Coop will be fine. Mix in Martin and Naji.

I'm more worried at POA defense with the big lineup. Coop?

[Mr B]

And if opinion is that Mavs big roster won't work? What then? Kill the messenger?

Anyone watching basketball knows that Mavs big roster can't bring success, because there isn't enough creativity and shooting. Yes Rockets have big roster too, but their C can shoot and playmake and their Pf is one of the best scorers in the league.

This is forum, where different opinions should be heard not just fans club, where everyone hope for the best.

I did not complain about disagreeing. It's the visceral negativity from some posters here. Reading some of these posts I'm wondering if someone should do a well check lol

If you don't want AD, what are your suggestions on replacing him?

It's not only about AD, it's about roster who was built around Luka, who was basically the whole Mavs system. Lively, Gafford, PJ, AD, Flagg are all doing similar things, but unfortunately they're similarly bad in others. People are talking about Rockets, but Sengun is better playmaker than everyone from Mavs, KD is better shooter than everyone from Mavs. And they have great wings and POA defenders. Similar team, but built a lot better. Basketball is not just putting good players together, it's about building the roster, where players complement each other.

Mavs are theoretically great rim protectors and great paint defenders, but unfortunately they're bad in everything else. No shooting, no creativity and no perimeter D.

See I think that was part of the problem. Luka is obviously a great player. He’s literally light years better than pretty much anyone that steps on the court with him. That actually creates a problem where you don’t want anyone else to have the ball in their hands because Luka is so good.

So to be honest we don’t really know what kind of players we have. No one other than Luka was getting the ball enough to even know what their real strengths are. We’ e seen Lively shooting 3’a in practice. Yet when asked why he doesn’t do that in a game he points to Luka. Why would Lively even attempt a 3 when he can just give the ball to Luka.

I really think we are going to see guys like PJ and Lively’s game expand now that Luka is gone. They will feel more inclined to take shots they never would have before. I do think they still need a legit pass first PG. I really like Nembhard but he’s not ready for that role yet. I could see the Mavs pulling off a trade though that sends Hardy and Gaff out for a PG.

[Bob8]

You know just like I do there are 1 or 2 guys that run everyone off from this board. If that’s the kind of board you want then have at it. I can tell you though that is the myself and many other posters stopped posting on this board and instead stick to other much more productive (and fun) boards n this site.

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

This board used to be a lot of fun with lots of posters. The negativity has definitely driven most of them away.

As for the team, I’m loving the big lineup. Obviously there will be some matchup problems and the team will adjust their lineup but it’s fun to see. Personally I’m very excited for the season and can’t wait to see how Cooper progresses.

The only thing you could literally been doing all night with Luka is shooting. He was creating the most open looks in the league. And when they were doubling him, a lot of time, it was 4:3. No way those players will be getting better looks without Luka.

Big lineup is not the problem per se. Big lineup is the problem, if those bigs can't create anything and can't shoot. And with all 3-points shooting in the league, it's very likely you will have problems defending the perimeter. We could see against Lakers benchwarmers how static Mavs big lineup is and they didn't exactly excel in other side either.

[Mr B]

I would love to get this board active again. I wanted to give everybody the feedback on how negative most posts are, which was received with more negativity! It's freaking basketball folks! Your opinion isn't going feed starving children.

Going forward I'm just going to ignore and not respond to the negativity.

This board used to be a lot of fun with lots of posters. The negativity has definitely driven most of them away.

As for the team, I’m loving the big lineup. Obviously there will be some matchup problems and the team will adjust their lineup but it’s fun to see. Personally I’m very excited for the season and can’t wait to see how Cooper progresses.

The only thing you could literally been doing all night with Luka is shooting. He was creating the most open looks in the league. And when they were doubling him, a lot of time, it was 4:3. No way those players will be getting better looks without Luka.

Big lineup is not the problem per se. Big lineup is the problem, if those bigs can't create anything and can't shoot. And with all 3-points shooting in the league, it's very likely you will have problems defending the perimeter. We could see against Lakers benchwarmers how static Mavs big lineup is and they didn't exactly excel in other side either.

Did you expect they would be a finished product after the last preseason game? Even though most of the players are the same this is essentially a new team. They are still learning to play together and there are going to be road bumps. Not to mention as I stated earlier they do still need a legit pass 1st PG. they may not get that until the trade deadline (along with getting Kyrie back).

I expect there will be a learning curve with this team. I’m more concerned with how they look down the stretch heading towards the playoffs. Until then I will enjoy watching them go through the process.

[daoneandonly]

https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-golden-ticket-to-replacing-young-flamethrower-is-right-in-front-of-them

Overstated, but I would completely rather Nemhardt than Hardy.

Hardy won the lottery signing that extention, he'd be out of the league otherwise.
Hopefully he's used as a trade filler at the deadline.

Im a big fan of Ryan and really hope eh gets a shot. He's already better than Hardy and I think he'll be more reliable than Exum and Williams.

[Bob8]

This board used to be a lot of fun with lots of posters. The negativity has definitely driven most of them away.

As for the team, I’m loving the big lineup. Obviously there will be some matchup problems and the team will adjust their lineup but it’s fun to see. Personally I’m very excited for the season and can’t wait to see how Cooper progresses.

The only thing you could literally been doing all night with Luka is shooting. He was creating the most open looks in the league. And when they were doubling him, a lot of time, it was 4:3. No way those players will be getting better looks without Luka.

Big lineup is not the problem per se. Big lineup is the problem, if those bigs can't create anything and can't shoot. And with all 3-points shooting in the league, it's very likely you will have problems defending the perimeter. We could see against Lakers benchwarmers how static Mavs big lineup is and they didn't exactly excel in other side either.

Did you expect they would be a finished product after the last preseason game? Even though most of the players are the same this is essentially a new team. They are still learning to play together and there are going to be road bumps. Not to mention as I stated earlier they do still need a legit pass 1st PG. they may not get that until the trade deadline (along with getting Kyrie back).

I expect there will be a learning curve with this team. I’m more concerned with how they look down the stretch heading towards the playoffs. Until then I will enjoy watching them go through the process.

Sure if they get good Pg things would look better. Luka instead of AD would be fantastic fit for example. But even with better Pg, playing 2 bigs, from who 1 can't shoot and other one is not good shooter for 3 makes no sense, not in modern Nba.

[41Dirk41]

Anyway Lively 0 3s made in 4 preseason game... That's not his job, continue to force players to do what the can't do is just foolish and very dangerous.

[41Dirk41]

I don't know how Holiday has left in the tank but i bet that he will be our trade target at TDL, Obviously we have to overpay him