Harrison Barnes

kaiballz · Post #361 » by **kaiballz** » Wed Nov 9, 2016 2:56 am

feyki wrote:
BIG FURB wrote:
feyki wrote:He has surprised me with his mid range game . Really interesting to see Worthy in him .

In college he had a prettygood mid range game, but since he was never asked to do a whole lot offensively with the warriors it wasn't really showcased

So , first MIP from Mavs ?

would really love to see this lad win a MIP

kaiballz · Post #362 » by **kaiballz** » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:01 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
RGM_SU wrote:Can't complain about his work ethic:

He's a smart kid. You come to a team led by Dirk and the best thing you could possibly do would be to put in the work. I think one of the reasons Dirk never fully embraced Parsons was because Parsons loved the life as much as the game.

and hey good on Barnes. Took lots of heat in GSW particularly that last series he played with them, really struggled to shoot in the preseason, is being asked to do way more than he expected and has performed admirably by any measures. And he's done a lot of things everyone insisted he couldn't in terms of putting the ball on the floor and attacking.

I wasn't for the signing, but his attitude and work ethic are starting to really bring me around.

he is a 100% team player and works insanely hard day in day out with no drama whatsoever. that was always one of his strengths. And he is sneaky athletic. Every season you will get treated to a few massive HB posterizations, count on it.

N8N · Post #363 » by **N8N** » Wed Nov 9, 2016 10:29 am

Dirk Nowitzki wrote:Barnes heard the rumblings about being sent down to the D-League and that lit a fire under him..

Watch on YouTube

Well, after reading so much about him not being able to handle the ball, I was surprised with his dribbling and driving. Great finishes with the left hand. He beat Parker and Giannis off the dribble. Considering that this is a work in progress, how awful the pre-season was, this has been a phenomenal start. There are very encouraging signs that the guy can really become a machine out of that triple threat position. This has been just as good as start as anyone could imagine for someone thought of as being strictly a role player and limited in his moves. While he will have his struggles, hopefully this isn't just an hot streak.

The interesting thing is that I haven't got the sense that he has even been featured that much, force fed the ball (usage % 23) (it feels they forget him for parts of the game). Unlike Matthews who has taken a ton of ill advised shots, Barnes has always been more in control. They need to scale down on the plays where Matthews ends up with the ball having to do something and design the offense more to allow Barnes to develop, even if it hurts his efficiency, this is really the biggest thing about this season, developing the young guys and Barnes has bee showing that he can be more than advertised as far as an offensive option goes.

I think Barnes and Carlisle are going to work well. The former doesn't bring any drama or big ego and the latter is really good at maximizing the production of players who are willing to listen and just put in the work within his system. I hope Barnes thrives with us because it would be nice to have cornerstone players who are great guys in and out of the court, for me personally.

If Barnes keeps this up, I don't mind Dallas becoming "his" team and Dirk taking a mentor role. I think Dirk has a lot to impart to Barnes just from his experience alone even if HB has a hardware already. Just from being doubted, and being put into a situation where a lot is expected out of him, from being a silent assassin to becoming a vocal leader-Dirk can impart some of his experience and wisdom to HB regarding those.

HB has been efficient and doesn't really force anything. He is a jack of all trades in offense and defense, like a souped up Marion with a better-looking shot. We are missing pieces to really do any damage post regular season but it is early and what can you really do realistically? Most of what I expect this season is to see how well our young guys like Barnes, Anderson, and Brussino will develop.

BIG FURB · Post #364 » by **BIG FURB** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:21 am

Whats funny is, kids been balling and Warrior fans are still talking **** about this guy.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

kaiballz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
RGM_SU wrote:Can't complain about his work ethic:

He's a smart kid. You come to a team led by Dirk and the best thing you could possibly do would be to put in the work. I think one of the reasons Dirk never fully embraced Parsons was because Parsons loved the life as much as the game.

and hey good on Barnes. Took lots of heat in GSW particularly that last series he played with them, really struggled to shoot in the preseason, is being asked to do way more than he expected and has performed admirably by any measures. And he's done a lot of things everyone insisted he couldn't in terms of putting the ball on the floor and attacking.

I wasn't for the signing, but his attitude and work ethic are starting to really bring me around.

he is a 100% team player and works insanely hard day in day out with no drama whatsoever. that was always one of his strengths. And he is sneaky athletic. Every season you will get treated to a few massive HB posterizations, count on it.

Thanks for coming here and being positive!

Torgeir Bryn · Post #366 » by **Torgeir Bryn** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:23 am

His first 30+ point game mostly consisted of pull-up jumpers and he is still unsustainably hot on mid-range shots, but I really like how he has diversified his game by attacking bigger players, posting up and getting to the line. That will keep him pretty efficient as a scorer.

His ball handling seems much improved from when I saw him as a Warrior. Maybe God Shamgod deserves some of the credit, but Barnes seems like a guy that puts in the work.

matt6715 · Post #367 » by **matt6715** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:54 pm

Torgeir Bryn wrote:His first 30+ point game mostly consisted of pull-up jumpers and he is still unsustainably hot on mid-range shots, but I really like how he has diversified his game by attacking bigger players, posting up and getting to the line. That will keep him pretty efficient as a scorer.

His ball handling seems much improved from when I saw him as a Warrior. Maybe God Shamgod deserves some of the credit, but Barnes seems like a guy that puts in the work.

He's shot 24 free throws over the last 3 games (hitting 22). GREAT sign

N8N · Post #368 » by **N8N** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:04 pm

He does drive a lot and attacks the basket consistently, mixing it up with his jumpers. He is able to read and just react with what the defense gives. I think I read/watched somewhere how he admires Dirk's economy of movements and how he reads defenses. I'm thinking he is watching Dirk tapes and learning from him and Carlisle personally. He will likely be our top player and yeah, unless we land DMC (don't know how I personally feel about this, but we've defended Terry and Kidd for years), he will be on a mediocre team.

Doesn't matter to me, still a Mavs fan and now a Barnes fan.

matt6715 · Post #369 » by **matt6715** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:44 pm

Also have to love his versatility. Unlike the last small forward who shall not be named, Barnes really looks great playing the 4 and can hold his own defensively and on the boards. A hard working, versatile wing who is athletic and plays both ends is a hell of a building block if he keeps growing

kaiballz · Post #370 » by **kaiballz** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:19 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
kaiballz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:

He's a smart kid. You come to a team led by Dirk and the best thing you could possibly do would be to put in the work. I think one of the reasons Dirk never fully embraced Parsons was because Parsons loved the life as much as the game.

and hey good on Barnes. Took lots of heat in GSW particularly that last series he played with them, really struggled to shoot in the preseason, is being asked to do way more than he expected and has performed admirably by any measures. And he's done a lot of things everyone insisted he couldn't in terms of putting the ball on the floor and attacking.

I wasn't for the signing, but his attitude and work ethic are starting to really bring me around.

he is a 100% team player and works insanely hard day in day out with no drama whatsoever. that was always one of his strengths. And he is sneaky athletic. Every season you will get treated to a few massive HB posterizations, count on it.

Thanks for coming here and being positive!

You wouldn't believe how much hate HB has gotten over the years on the gsw board, even DURING the championship year. I'm just glad to see him performing well, and happy to see fans of his new team supporting him, which is what he deserves. I have always seen him as an extremely hard worker, great team player, and its nice to see him surprising even me with his recent play!!

I didn't start out as the biggest HB fan, but the countless hours i spent arguing with other gsw fans about HB has definitely given him a place in my heart :lol:

I will probably secretly root for him for his whole career, except when he faces gsw in the playoffs of course

kaiballz · Post #371 » by **kaiballz** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:57 am

Watch on YouTube

fuller4379 · Post #372 » by **fuller4379** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:42 pm

Looking good so far. A nice upgrade over Chandler Parsons. Better rebounder and defender. So far his shooting is looking at CP's level too.

DaKnicksAreBack · Post #373 » by **DaKnicksAreBack** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:20 am

I don't see any holes in his game! It's going to be interesting to see how he fits in when dirk gets back.

Pointguard01 · Post #374 » by **Pointguard01** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:23 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
RGM_SU wrote:Can't complain about his work ethic:

He's a smart kid. You come to a team led by Dirk and the best thing you could possibly do would be to put in the work. I think one of the reasons Dirk never fully embraced Parsons was because Parsons loved the life as much as the game.

and hey good on Barnes. Took lots of heat in GSW particularly that last series he played with them, really struggled to shoot in the preseason, is being asked to do way more than he expected and has performed admirably by any measures. And he's done a lot of things everyone insisted he couldn't in terms of putting the ball on the floor and attacking.

I wasn't for the signing, but his attitude and work ethic are starting to really bring me around.

And what about his play?

Don't get me wrong, I love that we will potentially be replacing Dirk as the face of the franchise with someone like Barnes, who works as hard as anyone and has minimal ego (replica of Dirk), but the guys's game the first 8-games has been nothing short of spectacular. His defense is very good, his offense has been fantastic and he is showing signs of his game that I would have hoped he would develop by year 2 in a Maverick's uniform. He still has a ways to go, but everything so far has been light years away from expectation.

What I'm equally excited about is his defense. He isn't Shawn Marion, but he plays really good man-to-man defense, which is super promising for the future.

Let's see if he can keep it up, but I think we may have found a really good starting point to build this team post-Nowitzki era.

3j_McCollum · Post #375 » by **3j_McCollum** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:46 am

fuller4379 wrote:Looking good so far. A nice upgrade over Chandler Parsons. Better rebounder and defender. So far his shooting is looking at CP's level too.

He's far superior then Parsons... Maybe not at the 3 points but that's it. Such a great player, on and off the court. He can become a All Star without any doubt here, and I'm backing him up to be the MIP this season.

You've got to be impressed by how well he addapted himself to his new role. I'm pretty sure that he can become a successfull franchise player for Dallas when Dirk retires. Absolutely fan of his offensive game, specially his isolation game. Great guy off the court, hope that he is going to be really successfull here.

Mr B · Post #376 » by **Mr B** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:30 pm

Told you guys he was going to be good. Well, at least some of you.

Suka Bongcic · Post #377 » by **Suka Bongcic** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:51 am

kaiballz wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
kaiballz wrote:
he is a 100% team player and works insanely hard day in day out with no drama whatsoever. that was always one of his strengths. And he is sneaky athletic. Every season you will get treated to a few massive HB posterizations, count on it.

Thanks for coming here and being positive!

You wouldn't believe how much hate HB has gotten over the years on the gsw board, even DURING the championship year. I'm just glad to see him performing well, and happy to see fans of his new team supporting him, which is what he deserves. I have always seen him as an extremely hard worker, great team player, and its nice to see him surprising even me with his recent play!!

I didn't start out as the biggest HB fan, but the countless hours i spent arguing with other gsw fans about HB has definitely given him a place in my heart I will probably secretly root for him for his whole career, except when he faces gsw in the playoffs of course

The hate on the Warriors board was embarrassing, even during the 73-9 regular season. While he definitely didn't play well after his injury, for a kid that busted his tail the way he did, most fans were just pinning all blame on him. He was considered the 7th-9th best player on the team according to many on the board. When's the last time the 7th-9th best player was the reason a team didn't win a title? The answer is never

jpengland · Post #378 » by **jpengland** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:17 pm

The worry is that he is relying heavily on a hot streak from no man's land of midrange.

Once that cools, knock 4 ppg off and peg down his fg% and he's back to an ordinary player.

I love his energy though and as someone above me said. He's proving to be a Carlisle player.

Problem is that he needs to be our third best players, at best. He's currently our best player.

2011Champs · Post #379 » by **2011Champs** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:30 pm

Mr B wrote:Told you guys he was going to be good. Well, at least some of you.

I just have that dismal preseason in the back of my head and worry he could return to that awful form. Barnes has really surprised me so far and has been much better than Parsons.

Mr B · Post #380 » by **Mr B** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:00 am

2011Champs wrote:
Mr B wrote:Told you guys he was going to be good. Well, at least some of you.
I just have that dismal preseason in the back of my head and worry he could return to that awful form. Barnes has really surprised me so far and has been much better than Parsons.

Yea he's definitely better than Parsons, healthier too. The team is still having issues but Barnes is a good player to start to build around.