Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Super Cooper]

I don't know how Holiday has left in the tank but i bet that he will be our trade target at TDL, Obviously we have to overpay him

Jrue still defends at a very high level. Offensively, though, he's dropped off terrifically. That, and I'd say Jrue is a combo guard, at best. He's more of a SG. That said, I'm not sure he's even close to fulfill the $113m/3yrs (last yr PO).

By the way, when NOP was going to trade him, I was screaming to trade for him, IMO he would have been the perfect backcourt mate for Luka.

[Maverick41]

Just to balance the roster, what about something like this:

DAL receives: Toppin
IND receives: Gafford

DAL receives a 4 who is very athletic, can shoot, and can play the small ball 5. IND probably throws a few SRPs into the deal too since imo Gaff is worth more. This way, we run the following rotation:

D'Lo/B-Will (or whichever PG you like)
Klay/Christie
Flagg/Marshall
PJ/Toppin
AD/Lively

IND gets a starting C which they lack. Gaff also really fits well with Hali when he gets back.

[Bob8]

Just to balance the roster, what about something like this:

DAL receives: Toppin
IND receives: Gafford

DAL receives a 4 who is very athletic, can shoot, and can play the small ball 5. IND probably throws a few SRPs into the deal too since imo Gaff is worth more. This way, we run the following rotation:

D'Lo/B-Will (or whichever PG you like)
Klay/Christie
Flagg/Marshall
PJ/Toppin
AD/Lively

IND gets a starting C which they lack. Gaff also really fits well with Hali when he gets back.

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

[Maverick41]

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

[Bob8]

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

He should have been traded, because even if you force him to play 5, you still have Lively on 5, and Lively can't play anything else. Trading AD saves everything. You can get a Pg and POA for him, and you really don't need him in front court with Flagg/PJ/Lively/Gafford. Unfortunately Nico is a moron and he won't trade him, but he will give him extension. In the moment when they luckily got Flagg, they should start to think about trading both AD and Kyrie. They just don't fit in Flagg's timeline. And I'm saying that not really believing that Flagg will be legit first option.

[Mr B]

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

So piss off your players just out of spite? Yea that’s a great way to run a team and treat your superstar.

[Super Cooper]

While we are talking about AD forced to play the 5 or trading him, let's talk unicorns...

[Maverick41]

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

So piss off your players just out of spite? Yea that’s a great way to run a team and treat your superstar.

He's a 5. I'm fine if we want to make him a 4 to start games but play most of his minutes at the 5 like the way the bubble Lakers did.

My worry is having all of Gaff/Lively/AD is that it forces AD to play a lot at 4 to keep everyone happy. Moving one of Gaff or Lively forces AD to play the 5 more and be more accepting of it.

[Super Cooper]

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

So piss off your players just out of spite? Yea that’s a great way to run a team and treat your superstar.

He's a 5. I'm fine if we want to make him a 4 to start games but play most of his minutes at the 5 like the way the bubble Lakers did.

My worry is having all of Gaff/Lively/AD is that it forces AD to play a lot at 4 to keep everyone happy. Moving one of Gaff or Lively forces AD to play the 5 more and be more accepting of it.

Um, that's by design. When they extended Gaff, the message is AD is at the 4. We can discuss it ad-nauseam, but it's like talking unicorns.

Of course he'll get some time at the 5, but only in spots, matchup purposes, and probably to close out games.

[41Dirk41]

You have forgotten that AD plays 4 now.

Gafford should be traded for Pg or POA defender.

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

He should have been traded, because even if you force him to play 5, you still have Lively on 5, and Lively can't play anything else. Trading AD saves everything. You can get a Pg and POA for him, and you really don't need him in front court with Flagg/PJ/Lively/Gafford. Unfortunately Nico is a moron and he won't trade him, but he will give him extension. In the moment when they luckily got Flagg, they should start to think about trading both AD and Kyrie. They just don't fit in Flagg's timeline. And I'm saying that not really believing that Flagg will be legit first option.

This is clearly the case, the street clothes presence forces 3 players in the lineup (Klay, PJ and him) to play out of position.

Trading him will resolve everything and probably didn't trade for him was even better.

[Super Cooper]

Nope, I wanna force his butt to play the 5, whether he likes it or not

He should have been traded, because even if you force him to play 5, you still have Lively on 5, and Lively can't play anything else. Trading AD saves everything. You can get a Pg and POA for him, and you really don't need him in front court with Flagg/PJ/Lively/Gafford. Unfortunately Nico is a moron and he won't trade him, but he will give him extension. In the moment when they luckily got Flagg, they should start to think about trading both AD and Kyrie. They just don't fit in Flagg's timeline. And I'm saying that not really believing that Flagg will be legit first option.

This is clearly the case, the street clothes presence forces 3 players in the lineup (Klay, PJ and him) to play out of position.

Trading him will resolve everything and probably didn't trade for him was even better.

Not going top happen, and you don't want it to happen. If AD gets traded, it means he completely failed for the Mavs.

Water is wet. AD will get the majority of his minutes at PF. AD is not getting traded.

[41Dirk41]

He should have been traded, because even if you force him to play 5, you still have Lively on 5, and Lively can't play anything else. Trading AD saves everything. You can get a Pg and POA for him, and you really don't need him in front court with Flagg/PJ/Lively/Gafford. Unfortunately Nico is a moron and he won't trade him, but he will give him extension. In the moment when they luckily got Flagg, they should start to think about trading both AD and Kyrie. They just don't fit in Flagg's timeline. And I'm saying that not really believing that Flagg will be legit first option.

This is clearly the case, the street clothes presence forces 3 players in the lineup (Klay, PJ and him) to play out of position.

Trading him will resolve everything and probably didn't trade for him was even better.

Not going top happen, and you don't want it to happen. If AD gets traded, it means he completely failed for the Mavs.

Water is wet. AD will get the majority of his minutes at PF. AD is not getting traded.

And Mavs are not a contender....

[Archx]

He should have been traded, because even if you force him to play 5, you still have Lively on 5, and Lively can't play anything else. Trading AD saves everything. You can get a Pg and POA for him, and you really don't need him in front court with Flagg/PJ/Lively/Gafford. Unfortunately Nico is a moron and he won't trade him, but he will give him extension. In the moment when they luckily got Flagg, they should start to think about trading both AD and Kyrie. They just don't fit in Flagg's timeline. And I'm saying that not really believing that Flagg will be legit first option.

This is clearly the case, the street clothes presence forces 3 players in the lineup (Klay, PJ and him) to play out of position.

Trading him will resolve everything and probably didn't trade for him was even better.

Not going top happen, and you don't want it to happen. If AD gets traded, it means he completely failed for the Mavs.

Water is wet. AD will get the majority of his minutes at PF. AD is not getting traded.

You think the AD experiment has been a success so far? AD played 2 games at 100% and in both games got injured after 3Q's lol... What's even worse, i could argue that Kyrie got injured because of that as well. Now he's completely out of shape because of recovery and will need a lot of time to get himself back to form.

But Nico should do what Sam Presti did and build around Flagg from the start. Sit down with AD and Kyrie, tell them Mavs are going in a completely different direction, find them a better home and get back some valuable draft capital while both players still hold some value. Then you can do anything, trade for, or draft young promising talent that would fit Flagg's and Lively's timeline.

It's such a simple yet proven concept which would probably also rally most of Mavs fanbase behind Nico again. Instead this idiot went before media and said "I hope fans can see my vision now"... And that was after he was gifted nr1 draft pick. So he either admitted it was a collusion with the NBA to get Lakers a premium star or he's just dumb as a rock and thinks fans are that naive.

[Super Cooper]

This is clearly the case, the street clothes presence forces 3 players in the lineup (Klay, PJ and him) to play out of position.

Trading him will resolve everything and probably didn't trade for him was even better.

Not going top happen, and you don't want it to happen. If AD gets traded, it means he completely failed for the Mavs.

Water is wet. AD will get the majority of his minutes at PF. AD is not getting traded.

You think the AD experiment has been a success so far? AD played 2 games at 100% and in both games got injured after 3Q's lol... What's even worse, i could argue that Kyrie got injured because of that as well. Now he's completely out of shape because of recovery and will need a lot of time to get himself back to form.

But Nico should do what Sam Presti did and build around Flagg from the start. Sit down with AD and Kyrie, tell them Mavs are going in a completely different direction, find them a better home and get back some valuable draft capital while both players still hold some value. Then you can do anything, trade for, or draft young promising talent that would fit Flagg's and Lively's timeline.

It's such a simple yet proven concept which would probably also rally most of Mavs fanbase behind Nico again. Instead this idiot went before media and said "I hope fans can see my vision now"... And that was after he was gifted nr1 draft pick. So he either admitted it was a collusion with the NBA to get Lakers a premium star or he's just dumb as a rock and thinks fans are that naive.

My opinion doesn't matter because it's reality. I wish I was 6'8" and didn't dribble the ball with both hands lol

It is what it is. Can we put it past us? Again, water is wet. I dislike Nico as much as anyone, but I accept facts, reality.

[Mr B]

Personally I’m going to give the team a chance as they’re currently built. I want to see what the big lineup can do and how they can improve the team at the trade deadline. By no means am I writing this team off already nor do I think they are already a failure (before playing a single game that counts).

I’m excited for the season.

[41Dirk41]

Wrong.

You can accept the past only after Nico's departure.

[41Dirk41]

Personally I’m going to give the team a chance as they’re currently built. I want to see what the big lineup can do and how they can improve the team at the trade deadline. By no means am I writing this team off already nor do I think they are already a failure (before playing a single game that counts).

I’m excited for the season.

Yes that's cool and i can understand it, mostly because improve the team at TDL is an admission of bad roster building.

We agree.

[Mavrelous]

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[Archx]

Not going top happen, and you don't want it to happen. If AD gets traded, it means he completely failed for the Mavs.

Water is wet. AD will get the majority of his minutes at PF. AD is not getting traded.

You think the AD experiment has been a success so far? AD played 2 games at 100% and in both games got injured after 3Q's lol... What's even worse, i could argue that Kyrie got injured because of that as well. Now he's completely out of shape because of recovery and will need a lot of time to get himself back to form.

But Nico should do what Sam Presti did and build around Flagg from the start. Sit down with AD and Kyrie, tell them Mavs are going in a completely different direction, find them a better home and get back some valuable draft capital while both players still hold some value. Then you can do anything, trade for, or draft young promising talent that would fit Flagg's and Lively's timeline.

It's such a simple yet proven concept which would probably also rally most of Mavs fanbase behind Nico again. Instead this idiot went before media and said "I hope fans can see my vision now"... And that was after he was gifted nr1 draft pick. So he either admitted it was a collusion with the NBA to get Lakers a premium star or he's just dumb as a rock and thinks fans are that naive.

My opinion doesn't matter because it's reality. I wish I was 6'8" and didn't dribble the ball with both hands lol

It is what it is. Can we put it past us? Again, water is wet. I dislike Nico as much as anyone, but I accept facts, reality.

Obviously reality is reality but this is a basketball forum where we theorize and talk about anything. We know what the facts are and we know what reality is, but do you want us to close down the forum and do what then, talk about nothing?

[Super Cooper]

You think the AD experiment has been a success so far? AD played 2 games at 100% and in both games got injured after 3Q's lol... What's even worse, i could argue that Kyrie got injured because of that as well. Now he's completely out of shape because of recovery and will need a lot of time to get himself back to form.

But Nico should do what Sam Presti did and build around Flagg from the start. Sit down with AD and Kyrie, tell them Mavs are going in a completely different direction, find them a better home and get back some valuable draft capital while both players still hold some value. Then you can do anything, trade for, or draft young promising talent that would fit Flagg's and Lively's timeline.

It's such a simple yet proven concept which would probably also rally most of Mavs fanbase behind Nico again. Instead this idiot went before media and said "I hope fans can see my vision now"... And that was after he was gifted nr1 draft pick. So he either admitted it was a collusion with the NBA to get Lakers a premium star or he's just dumb as a rock and thinks fans are that naive.

My opinion doesn't matter because it's reality. I wish I was 6'8" and didn't dribble the ball with both hands lol

It is what it is. Can we put it past us? Again, water is wet. I dislike Nico as much as anyone, but I accept facts, reality.

Obviously reality is reality but this is a basketball forum where we theorize and talk about anything. We know what the facts are and we know what reality is, but do you want us to close down the forum and do what then, talk about nothing?

I'm not into wallowing. If you want to discuss AD et al. what is your solution? Who would you trade for?

...that is something to discuss, not lamenting constantly