2012 NBA Playoffs: Rd.1 Game 1 [7] Mavericks vs [2] Thunder

zaman314125 · Post #41 » by **zaman314125** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:58 am

RvM! Once again, Major Props to you my man. How in the hell do you make these sick ass gamethreads? Anywhos, comon MAVS!!! LETS GO AND SHOCK THE WORLD!!!! None of us need to predict jack, all we need to do is believe.

WE NEED GAME 1!!!! If we get this, then momentum will shift BIG TIME to our side!

Mac1 · Post #42 » by **Mac1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:11 am

j-kidd needs to frustrate westbrook..and hes more then capable of that..we need to use our bbiq

make durant put it on the floor.his handle is still pretty suspect..make him a passer as thats not a strong point.

call metta world peace to abuse harden before the game.

Johnny Kilroy · Post #43 » by **Johnny Kilroy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:12 am

mac, what are you doing up at 6 am on a saturday?

and how can a scrub minimum player like kidd stop westbrook?

Mac1 · Post #44 » by **Mac1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:35 am

i live in dubai now bud

kidds no scrub..hes a top 5 point gaurd of all time..you messin

Raptorel · Post #45 » by **Raptorel** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:45 am

Kidd is great

anish23 · Post #46 » by **anish23** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:45 pm

obviously Kidd is a great player. sure he is a all time top 10 pg maybe... BUT NO HE ISNT A TOP 5 POINT GUARD right now..there is no way Kidd can stop Westbrook.. what we can do best is play good team defense and not let him get in the lane alot... make him take more jumpers.

Mac1 · Post #47 » by **Mac1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:45 pm

i said of all time..( top 5 of all time) not now obviously.

anish23 · Post #48 » by **anish23** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:46 pm

Mac1 wrote:i said of all time..( top 5 of all time) not now obviously.

my bad mate.. i saw that and edited.. my bad.

but ya how do u expect kidd can single-handedly stop Westbrook?

Mac1 · Post #49 » by **Mac1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:46 pm

wetbrook is an idiot..kinda like steve francis idiot..when his athletic ability goes he will be in china like marbury.

Mac1 · Post #50 » by **Mac1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:47 pm

it wont be single handed of course..but hes a smart player..think gary payton in his latter years..still effective coverage.

anish23 · Post #51 » by **anish23** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:49 pm

but even all time... i guess its a toss up...

Id say... better PG's over the years could be... Magic, John Stockton, Isiah Thomas, Oscar, Bob Cousy, Walt Frasier ? I think they cud all be put above Kidd... maybe not but iguess its up for discussion.. and Nash is up there too... but sure id give Kidd ahead of Nash.

Raptorel · Post #52 » by **Raptorel** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:57 pm

I don't know why people bring this "he can't stop Westbrick" up because it's not really like that. It's not you on an island against the other player. There are also 4 other teammates defending, even in isolation there is still help defense available. Not to mention zone defense.

Yes, not being able to stay in front of the guy you're defending is important, but not THAT important. Plus with Westbrick Kidd can just back off more and give him an open shot while having more time to react to his drives and live with him going 2-25 from 18 feet.

As fast as you are, you're still going to get caught in screens and switch the defensive assignment so IMO, the defender's speed is not that important.

anish23 · Post #53 » by **anish23** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:00 pm

Raptorel wrote:I don't know why people bring this "he can't stop Westbrick" up because it's not really like that. It's not you on an island against the other player. There are also 4 other teammates defending, even in isolation there is still help defense available. Not to mention zone defense.

Yes, not being able to stay in front of the guy you're defending is important, but not THAT important. Plus with Westbrick Kidd can just back off more and give him an open shot while having more time to react to his drives and live with him going 2-25 from 18 feet.

As fast as you are, you're still going to get caught in screens and switch the defensive assignment so IMO, the defender's speed is not that important.

i think if u stop Exaggerating.. it would be good for you.

SlobbaN · Post #54 » by **SlobbaN** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:47 pm

Just play 2-3 zone for 48 mins, let them chuck them 3s.

mffl_14 · Post #55 » by **mffl_14** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:51 pm

I'm gonna miss a chunk of the game tonight so that's gonna kill me but I think we take this thing in 6. I'm worried just enough to know we can lose but have a peace about a lot of it too. We've got what I think should be DPOY in Matrix, a healthy rested JKidd who I get the feeling is hungry for another shot. There's something about JET that makes him rise in the playoffs so I am going to believe in that. Then there is Dirk. If Dirk is just Dirk we got this. Finally to steal a line from Rudy T ... Never underestimate the heart of a champion!!!

ALL IN ... MAVS IN 6 !!!

Raptorel · Post #56 » by **Raptorel** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:03 pm

anish23 wrote:
Raptorel wrote:I don't know why people bring this "he can't stop Westbrick" up because it's not really like that. It's not you on an island against the other player. There are also 4 other teammates defending, even in isolation there is still help defense available. Not to mention zone defense.

Yes, not being able to stay in front of the guy you're defending is important, but not THAT important. Plus with Westbrick Kidd can just back off more and give him an open shot while having more time to react to his drives and live with him going 2-25 from 18 feet.

As fast as you are, you're still going to get caught in screens and switch the defensive assignment so IMO, the defender's speed is not that important.

i think if u stop Exaggerating.. it would be good for you.

Yeah I know, sorry about that. I meant 1-28.

Soupman · Post #57 » by **Soupman** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:04 pm

What are the key matchups?

peppersquared · Post #58 » by **peppersquared** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:30 pm

Mavs have got this.

dyukcs · Post #59 » by **dyukcs** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:32 pm

There's really nothing you can point to about the Mavs this year to draw confidence from, only stuff from last year. This year we suck on the road, we suck at the end of close games, we suck on offense, our ball movement sucks, but our defense has been good.

So idk, there's really no rational way to make a case that we will win, I just hope we get lucky. The Thunder still can't stop Dirk, and Marion can still bother Durant sometimes, that's a good start I guess.

RvM · Post #60 » by **RvM** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:54 pm

Soupman wrote:What are the key matchups?

I'd say Marion on Durant is a big matchup. Dirk vs Ibaka/Collison/and even Durant will be another big one.

And finally West/Roddy on Westbrook. But also we need someone to contain Harden.