Thoughts On Davis Bertans

[dirkdiggler4177]

Of course it is Cuban’s problem to pay the money. But why we are all here to discuss and raise our opinion because we all support the mavericks team. And the central area of this website is about “realgm” hence we if don’t think ourself as real GM to run the team in the optimal way, then what is the point of having this forum?

The problem here is that people say it was a bad trade while not knowing everything going on. People act like there was a better offer on the table or that KP was worth a lot more. Most GMs probably slammed the phone when they heard KP's name. If I was a real GM I would think: if he is healthy, why are they trading him? Well, he is clearly not healthy and they know he won't ever be healthy so I will offer **** because I'm not taking on 36mill a year for 7.3 of glass. I assume that the Mavs FO think they can turn around Bertāns and Dinwiddie so their value wont is that bad. If Bertans is able to average 12 points on 40% 3 point shooting and Dinwiddie with 16 points and 5 assists I won't consider them that bad contracts. Just look at what Duncan Robinson, Joe Harris, and Tim Hardaway are getting on the same amount of money.

Anyway, my point is that we don't know what other offers the Mavs got. Clearly, the Mavs don't trust his health in the playoffs and the rest of the league don't trust his health, resulting in him having a super low value. So why trade him then? Well, if he is injured in the postseason he has zero value for us.

[fuller4379]

Overpaid version of McBuckets. He can be useful though in scoring points off Luka feeds.

[Apz]

And back to 43% from 3 while barely playing with luka. Hope he keeps firing

[41Dirk41]

Killer

[Mr B]

Tried to tell you guys. Dude can shoot. He’s going to get so many wide open looks playing with Luka, not that he needs a lot of space or time to get his shot off.

[Bob8]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

[arkuo]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

Yes Bertans has dribbling skills and can drive to the rim on his own. His deal makes the THJ contract look like a ponzi scheme.

On another note, Bertans can take the cap space that THJ is taking and you need to send THJ out for a center.

[Bob8]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

Yes Bertans has dribbling skills and can drive to the rim on his own. His deal makes the THJ contract look like a ponzi scheme.

On another note, Bertans can take the cap space that THJ is taking and you need to send THJ out for a center.

I'm not sure if he will use his dribbling skills much, but his quick release enables him to shoot whenever he wants. In the end everything is about efficiency and Bertans was more or less always more efficient than THJ. I liked THJ the most, when he dribbled as little as possible.

[mhd]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

Yes Bertans has dribbling skills and can drive to the rim on his own. His deal makes the THJ contract look like a ponzi scheme.

On another note, Bertans can take the cap space that THJ is taking and you need to send THJ out for a center.

Nah, Bertans has no dribbling skills. As a Wizards fan, he's purely a spot up/off-screen shooter. He can't create anything on his own.

[Maverick41]

Looks like the twilight years of Peja or a better version of Linsanity Steve Novak which are useful players to have. Similar height, moves off the ball very well, elite shooters with a quick trigger but terrible on defense. If his defense can be even just slightly below average, he can go from a 10-15 minute player to a 20-25 mpg player which would be huge for the team.

Clearly overpaid but good player to have off the bench.

[HairyGOATee]

Somehow I'm getting Brian Cardinal vibes with him but that might just be the height and shooting. Hope he can prove some value on the boards and our good defense.

That'd be dope. Cardinal brought hustle and toughness though. I'm not sure Bertans brings those, but he's a better shooter than Cardinal.

Yes, I think it's the height and position and the fact that he comes in with an albatross of a contract and low expectations that create the resemblance to me. Obviously they're quite different players.

Yeah, definitely different players, but play the same position, which is why I was making the comparison. Plus, when you think toughness, you think of your PFs and Cs first. Bertans is a PF/SF, so I hope he can give some hard fouls. I know he likes trash talking.

And his contract is bad, yes, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's an albatross. KP's was a true albatross. Rudy Gobert's is as well. Bertans though, it's more manageable just because it's half or a third of the size of the other 2.

[LAL1947]

That'd be dope. Cardinal brought hustle and toughness though. I'm not sure Bertans brings those, but he's a better shooter than Cardinal.

Yes, I think it's the height and position and the fact that he comes in with an albatross of a contract and low expectations that create the resemblance to me. Obviously they're quite different players.

Yeah, definitely different players, but play the same position, which is why I was making the comparison. Plus, when you think toughness, you think of your PFs and Cs first. Bertans is a PF/SF, so I hope he can give some hard fouls. I know he likes trash talking.

He really needs to work on his shoulders and upper chest to do that, lol... but I'd hesitate to suggest it to him in case it messes up his shooting stroke.

[swaggerbox]

[Popovich] is a good scout," Brooks said Wednesday. "He nailed it on [Bertans] when I talked to him over the summer. He said, '[Davis] is more than a shooter.'"

sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/gregg-popovich-told-scott-brooks-230512923.html

"He can drive it, he's finding people after he drives it, which is a big sign of development for him."

news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/davis-bertans-is-more-than-a-3-point-threat-says-popovich

"He has very strong court vision and impressive passing ability. Bertans actually went from 6’2" to 6’10" in the last two years and might still be growing. He has been playing shooting guard most of his life, but due to his height has been moved to small forward. So he is used to handling the ball which is a plus."

syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/758463-san-antonio-spurs-draft-prospect-davis-bertans-is-he-the-next-dirk-nowitzki.amp.html

[HMFFL]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

Yes Bertans has dribbling skills and can drive to the rim on his own. His deal makes the THJ contract look like a ponzi scheme.

On another note, Bertans can take the cap space that THJ is taking and you need to send THJ out for a center.

Nah, Bertans has no dribbling skills. As a Wizards fan, he's purely a spot up/off-screen shooter. He can't create anything on his own.

Exactly it.
Some people are overthinking his game. His job is only to shoot and he's a liability at everything else. However, he's still beneficial to the Mavs, for now.

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[41Dirk41]

Ice cold tonight.

[Ruzious]

[Popovich] is a good scout," Brooks said Wednesday. "He nailed it on [Bertans] when I talked to him over the summer. He said, '[Davis] is more than a shooter.'"

sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/gregg-popovich-told-scott-brooks-230512923.html

"He can drive it, he's finding people after he drives it, which is a big sign of development for him."

news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/davis-bertans-is-more-than-a-3-point-threat-says-popovich

"He has very strong court vision and impressive passing ability. Bertans actually went from 6’2" to 6’10" in the last two years and might still be growing. He has been playing shooting guard most of his life, but due to his height has been moved to small forward. So he is used to handling the ball which is a plus."

syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/758463-san-antonio-spurs-draft-prospect-davis-bertans-is-he-the-next-dirk-nowitzki.amp.html

Thing is - Pops got rid of Bertans when he had him - after Bertans flopped in the playoffs. Actions speak louder than words.

[HairyGOATee]

Yes, I think it's the height and position and the fact that he comes in with an albatross of a contract and low expectations that create the resemblance to me. Obviously they're quite different players.

Yeah, definitely different players, but play the same position, which is why I was making the comparison. Plus, when you think toughness, you think of your PFs and Cs first. Bertans is a PF/SF, so I hope he can give some hard fouls. I know he likes trash talking.

He really needs to work on his shoulders and upper chest to do that, lol... but I'd hesitate to suggest it to him in case it messes up his shooting stroke.

He's feisty though.

[HairyGOATee]

Bertans is probably the only shooter in the Mavs, who doesn't necessarily need Luka to create him wide open shot. He might be pivotal in those non Luka minutes.

Yes Bertans has dribbling skills and can drive to the rim on his own. His deal makes the THJ contract look like a ponzi scheme.

On another note, Bertans can take the cap space that THJ is taking and you need to send THJ out for a center.

Nah, Bertans has no dribbling skills. As a Wizards fan, he's purely a spot up/off-screen shooter. He can't create anything on his own.

He can run the floor decently well for a guy his size, but transition plays don't happen a lot. But he did get a dunk in transition in his Mavs debut. He read the play well and anticipated the break before the steal and outlet pass actually happened. He did that decently well during his time with the Spurs.

[41Dirk41]

Best pure shooter from Peja. Beautiful mechanic.

[Teffer10]

Best pure shooter from Peja. Beautiful mechanic.

Bertans' game kind of reminds me of Charlie "Buckets" V.