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RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST)

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#41 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 9:53 am

Everytime i see Bullock, DFS and Maxi dribble or pass my eyes bleeding. What a lack of fundamental.

A W is still a W and Luka scored 30+ again... And with good %.

Green is an upgrade over Bullock right now, him and Wood have to play more minutes. They earned it.

Powell with a good game, hustle and passion. He can give those things and let him play 15/17minutes a game it's ok.
But we need rebound and Wood is the only very good rebounder of the team. We need him for that and for scoring abilities. Very talented.

THJ is off and it's normal because he didn't play for 1year. He needs time.

I think Hayward could be the best upgrade possible for us with SD come from the bench.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#42 » by Darren » Sat Nov 5, 2022 10:24 am

Bullock has an off-night but still plays a lot in clutch time. This is Kidd problem.
And yes, I also think Green and Wood deserve more playing time.
But to be there in clutch moment, Wood has to be able to hit free throws at good percentage.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#43 » by Maverick41 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 10:27 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Everytime i see Bullock, DFS and Maxi dribble or pass my eyes bleeding. What a lack of fundamental.

DFS isn't too bad. Not good but he's leagues better then Bullock or Maxi at it.

Maxi and Bullock on the otherhand are pathetic at making a decision after a fake or at passing. And while we're talking about them, they both have to be up there for worst finishers in the paint in the league. Especially Bullock. I'd bet money on him making a 3 more then I would making a semi contested layup.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#44 » by Darren » Sat Nov 5, 2022 10:28 am

Give Dinwiddle and Powell credit. Both exceeds expectation since last few games. Dinwiddle, in particular, has fixed most problems on the offensive end demonstrated in playoff. And Luka has subtly become the Mavs best defenders, stat-wise, last few games.

I think being tall and jump into passing lanes a lot is a right adjustment defensively. This is why GSW dominates a few seasons ago. People only know the 3 point shooting. But extra possession, being able to contest every shots are what it takes to win games.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#45 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 10:30 am

Wood is 21/25 at FT without the Phoenix game... Not so bad.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#46 » by Maverick41 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 11:02 am

It's comical at this point how obvious Wood needs to close games. We've been outscored in the 4th almost every game and it's because teams are forcing Maxi, DFS and Bullock to be decision makers. You can get away with maybe 2 but not 3 of them.

The obvious remedy is Wood who is unamously recognized as our 2nd most talented scorer. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team close so many games without their 2nd best offensive player in the game. It's frustrating.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#47 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 11:37 am

Maverick41 wrote:It's comical at this point how obvious Wood needs to close games. We've been outscored in the 4th almost every game and it's because teams are forcing Maxi, DFS and Bullock to be decision makers. You can get away with maybe 2 but not 3 of them.

The obvious remedy is Wood who is unamously recognized as our 2nd most talented scorer. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team close so many games without their 2nd best offensive player in the game. It's frustrating.


This close lineup is like Luka vs 5 on the offensive end, when Luka went off we lost.

I can understand that Kidd goes with last year guys who he trusts but it's time to change.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#48 » by Mavrelous » Sat Nov 5, 2022 11:52 am

Mavs outplayed the Raptors well in this one, but it looked close because of the insane, absolutely insane, amount of offensive boards Raptors had, also, the refs were just weird to start the 4th, they brought the Raptors back into the game, if I was to venture a conspiracy theory, they were keeping the game around the betting line.
I was furious, absolutely furious, with Maxi and Bullock, you have an off shooting game, that's fine, you're trying on defense against athletic long guys, that's also fine, but for God sake, stop stepping out of bounds, this is just careless, and Bullock, when swinging the ball around the perimeter, many times he slows the swing and the corner shooter gets stuck.
I understand preferring MAxi to close games, but not yesterday, he was just off yesterday, Kidd has a habit of ignoring the actual reality and focus on he preconceived perception of the player.
I'm amazed the high level of offensive efficiency with the low level of play by THJ, and offensively by Maxi and Bullock.
Green has been amazing, he should get all of THJ's minutes, THJ was a bad rim attacker in his contract year, now he's just a horrendous one, focus on shooting until you're expiring, and stop doing damage.
Luka, **** amazing man, this guy at 23 is more wily and experienced as a player than many superstars in their prime, he needs to control his temper with the refs.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#49 » by Archx » Sat Nov 5, 2022 12:28 pm

Darren wrote:Bullock has an off-night but still plays a lot in clutch time. This is Kidd problem.
And yes, I also think Green and Wood deserve more playing time.
But to be there in clutch moment, Wood has to be able to hit free throws at good percentage.


Wood is not Shaq at the FT line and he's Mavs 2nd best player. He absolutely needs to be on the floor in the last 5 minutes. Dude is averaging 17/8 in only 25mpg. Could have been a lot better if Kidd trusted him more. It is more or less evident that Mavs need another guy who can put the ball on the floor when Luka gets doubled, Dinwiddie is hit or miss and others can't dribble to save their life.

Bullock has been semi decent on defense but his offense has gone to China.. They'll need a lot more from him, otherwise they could just develop Hardy instead. Would have been smarter at this point anyway.

Mavs consistent best players outside of Doncic this year.

-Powell 16 mpg
-Green 16 mpg
-Wood 25 mpg

It is interesting when you check their most efficient +/- lineups, Green is in almost every one of them. There is a reason why Mavs struggle in the 2nd half. Kidd still has no clue what to do with lineups, relying on Luka to carry him.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#50 » by Michaellam1987 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 1:07 pm

Kidd is still not confident on Wood from the defensive end. And yes, Wood is too inconsistent on the defensive rotation, but on offensive and rebounding ability, he is a huge huge update on Maxi+DFS+Powell+Bullock combined. If you talk about defense in later game, I dont think Luka/Dinwiddie is that good as well.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#51 » by Dirk » Sat Nov 5, 2022 1:31 pm

Fun game

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Luka for some reason decided to have fun in this game and was toying with the Raptors all game long.
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Dinwiddie had a nice game, felt like he made the right play each single time. 7 assists. It's as if he's picking some things up from Luka's playmaking.

How about Josh Green

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#52 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 5, 2022 1:55 pm

Green looks fantastic, if he could attempt more shots. If I were Kidd, I would insist that he attempts at list 6 shots per game. It shouldn't be too difficult to find him in the corner more times.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Raptors (Nov 4, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#53 » by Apz » Sat Nov 5, 2022 4:30 pm

Raptors is a running team. We almost lost a 16 point lead when all of a sudden we started to play their game and just run right at them. Dinwiddie and thj mainly. I was furious.

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