RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Bulls (Nov 1)

Bob8 · Post #41 » by **Bob8** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:39 am

Maverick41 wrote:Luka playing 22 mins at the half is too much. Guy is gonna have no legs in the 2nd half.

Important thing is that we're saving Kyrie.

Archx · Post #42 » by **Archx** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:41 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:1 foul, 1 TO

0 points, assists, steals, and blocks combined

Who am i?

Reggie Bullock?

So still no criticism of the real culprit whatsoever huh? We have to give fault where fault is due Arch

I already said before. He can start playing great at some point or they can trade him, he has a very tradeable contract. I'm absolutely not concerned, can easily go either way. Really no point losing sleep over it.

BeiBeau · Post #43 » by **BeiBeau** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:41 am

Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
He started load management in preseason already. Lol

Kyrie is a professional athlete, it's his job to play games. He missed half of games in last 4 years, so his body should be pretty well rested.

All this load management is a joke nowadays. Players before were playing a lot more minutes per game and more or less every game. MJ has played 82 games in 9 RS, averaging 40+ minutes in some seasons.

Football players in Europe are having only few weeks off before they start preparations for next season, which is 10 months long and there's 0 load management there. How is that possible? The same is with basketball in Europe.

Nba players are just soft and a league is a joke in that regard. Kyrie has special place among them.

He shouldn't play games if he is actually injured, whether you think he should or not. Even if it makes him look bad.

Missing a game 4 years ago doesn't make you healthy now or protect your body for the wear and tear of a long season now either. Lets not play dumb here.

1. This isn't truly load management yet. For everything we know this is Dallas being careful with an injury. But if they do truly load manage Kyrie I'll be happy with that.

2. The load managing started because it is a smart thing to do if you want to win in the playoffs. It's the same thing as shooting 3s. People didn't really do it in the 90s but teams then got smarter and figured out this makes sense to do because it puts us in a better position to win.

3. European football is not nearly physically demanding as a sport as basketball is. And find me a European basketball player making 40 mil and we will then probably start seeing load management there.

You said that he put a lot of strain on his body, not lately for sure.

Football is not physically demanding as basketball? Lol My guess is that you don't know much about football.

I would expect that someone getting 40 mio is doing his job first of all. I kinda doubt that Mavs pay him that money just for playing playoffs, if they qualify.

American football is that demanding. But no soccer is no where close to basketball. Yeah you run a lot. Lots of lower body contact. But its no where near the constant full sprinting, sharp cuts, max leaping and landing into tight spaces that happens in basketball.

ejs78 · Post #44 » by **ejs78** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:42 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You said that he put a lot of strain on his body, not lately for sure.

Football is not physically demanding as basketball? Lol My guess is that you don't know much about football.

I would expect that someone getting 40 mio is doing his job first of all. I kinda doubt that Mavs pay him that money just for playing playoffs, if they qualify.
I mean have you seen how many guys making this kinda money regularly sit with what looks to be a minor injury?

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In the start of the season? Kyrie had back problems in preparation, now he had foot problems, I wonder what comes next?

If you see how Luka is guarded today, you know that wouldn't be possible with Kyrie playing.

You must be not aware of Booker being out, Beal out, Butler resting, and the some others.

Garland played one game with bad hammy and hasn't played since. Maybe they should play Irving so that he misses more time than what he's missed now.

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BeiBeau · Post #45 » by **BeiBeau** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:44 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:I mean have you seen how many guys making this kinda money regularly sit with what looks to be a minor injury?

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In the start of the season? Kyrie had back problems in preparation, now he had foot problems, I wonder what comes next?

If you see how Luka is guarded today, you know that wouldn't be possible with Kyrie playing.
You must be not aware of Booker being out, Beal out, Butler resting, and the many more.

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They never are. God forbid a guy who plays basketball for hours every day get injured.

Archx · Post #46 » by **Archx** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:47 am

Another injury...

Read on Twitter

daoneandonly · Post #47 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:52 am

Why they need Kyrie to play, nows not the time to rest. Just had an entire summer

Bob8 · Post #48 » by **Bob8** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:53 am

BeiBeau wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
He shouldn't play games if he is actually injured, whether you think he should or not. Even if it makes him look bad.

Missing a game 4 years ago doesn't make you healthy now or protect your body for the wear and tear of a long season now either. Lets not play dumb here.

1. This isn't truly load management yet. For everything we know this is Dallas being careful with an injury. But if they do truly load manage Kyrie I'll be happy with that.

2. The load managing started because it is a smart thing to do if you want to win in the playoffs. It's the same thing as shooting 3s. People didn't really do it in the 90s but teams then got smarter and figured out this makes sense to do because it puts us in a better position to win.

3. European football is not nearly physically demanding as a sport as basketball is. And find me a European basketball player making 40 mil and we will then probably start seeing load management there.

You said that he put a lot of strain on his body, not lately for sure.

Football is not physically demanding as basketball? Lol My guess is that you don't know much about football.

I would expect that someone getting 40 mio is doing his job first of all. I kinda doubt that Mavs pay him that money just for playing playoffs, if they qualify.

American football is that demanding. But no soccer is no where close to basketball. Yeah you run a lot. Lots of lower body contact. But its not where near the constant full sprinting, sharp cuts, max leaping and landing into tight spaces that happens in basketball.

Why do you think that football games is once a week, max. 2 times? Do you think that Luka could survive even 1 half? You should watch one game in English premier league and I'm sure you will understand, how physically demanding it is.

Post #49 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:58 am

Luka pissed off the refs...

BeiBeau · Post #50 » by **BeiBeau** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:00 am

Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You said that he put a lot of strain on his body, not lately for sure.

Football is not physically demanding as basketball? Lol My guess is that you don't know much about football.

I would expect that someone getting 40 mio is doing his job first of all. I kinda doubt that Mavs pay him that money just for playing playoffs, if they qualify.

American football is that demanding. But no soccer is no where close to basketball. Yeah you run a lot. Lots of lower body contact. But its not where near the constant full sprinting, sharp cuts, max leaping and landing into tight spaces that happens in basketball.

Why do you think that football games is once a week, max. 2 times? Do you think that Luka could survive even 1 half? You should watch one game in English premier league and I'm sure you will understand, how physically demanding it is.

I've watch many games. I'm not saying it's not demanding. But it's no where close to the level of basketball, American football, or ice hockey. It's more demanding than baseball if that makes you feel better.

Archx · Post #51 » by **Archx** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:01 am

In games like today, Kyrie would have been badly needed. Bulls playing hard and doubling Doncic. You can't do that with Kyrie. Plus Kidd being an idiot and playng him like it's finals, he won't have legs in 4th anymore.

Bob8 · Post #52 » by **Bob8** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:03 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:I mean have you seen how many guys making this kinda money regularly sit with what looks to be a minor injury?

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In the start of the season? Kyrie had back problems in preparation, now he had foot problems, I wonder what comes next?

If you see how Luka is guarded today, you know that wouldn't be possible with Kyrie playing.
You must be not aware of Booker being out, Beal out, Butler resting, and the some others.

Garland played one game with bad hammy and hasn't played since. Maybe they should play Irving so that he misses more time than what he's missed now.

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Beal is the same case as Kyrie, resting last 4 years. I believe Booker is injured, unfortunately I can't believe anything about Kyrie, especially without any reliable information, it looks to me that Kyrie is just continuing his Nets experience. Yes, it might not be fair, but it's on Kyrie to prove that he has changed.

ejs78 · Post #53 » by **ejs78** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:06 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
In the start of the season? Kyrie had back problems in preparation, now he had foot problems, I wonder what comes next?

If you see how Luka is guarded today, you know that wouldn't be possible with Kyrie playing.
You must be not aware of Booker being out, Beal out, Butler resting, and the some others.

Garland played one game with bad hammy and hasn't played since. Maybe they should play Irving so that he misses more time than what he's missed now.

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Beal is the same case as Kyrie, resting last 4 years. I believe Booker is injured, unfortunately I can't believe anything about Kyrie, especially without any reliable information, it looks to me that Kyrie is just continuing his Nets experience. Yes, it might not be fair, but it's on Kyrie to prove that he has changed.

We have a doctor in the house!!!

Whats the early read on the Maxi injury?

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Bob8 · Post #54 » by **Bob8** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:25 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:You must be not aware of Booker being out, Beal out, Butler resting, and the some others.

Garland played one game with bad hammy and hasn't played since. Maybe they should play Irving so that he misses more time than what he's missed now.

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Beal is the same case as Kyrie, resting last 4 years. I believe Booker is injured, unfortunately I can't believe anything about Kyrie, especially without any reliable information, it looks to me that Kyrie is just continuing his Nets experience. Yes, it might not be fair, but it's on Kyrie to prove that he has changed.
We have a doctor in the house!!!

Whats the early read on the Maxi injury?

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Did I ever say anything personal against you or anyone else? No. You on the other hand...But that's a problem for moderator not me.

Don't you think that's interesting how some players are nonstop out with minor injuries and others aren't?

BeiBeau · Post #55 » by **BeiBeau** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:26 am

Where are those people who kept pointing to lively's 5/5 in college as evidence that he's not good at basketball?

ejs78 · Post #56 » by **ejs78** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:28 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Beal is the same case as Kyrie, resting last 4 years. I believe Booker is injured, unfortunately I can't believe anything about Kyrie, especially without any reliable information, it looks to me that Kyrie is just continuing his Nets experience. Yes, it might not be fair, but it's on Kyrie to prove that he has changed.
We have a doctor in the house!!!

Whats the early read on the Maxi injury?

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Did I ever say anything personal against you or anyone else? No. You on the other hand. But that's a problem for moderator not me.

Don't you think that's interesting how some players are nonstop out with minor injuries and others aren't?

There's nothing you can do about players sitting. How do you think Clippers fans feel?

Luka is in his 20s and can't play b2b. Feels like that should be something to get made about as well.

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Michaellam1987 · Post #57 » by **Michaellam1987** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:37 am

CHI is defending Luka's scoring and passing very effectively

ejs78 · Post #58 » by **ejs78** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:40 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:CHI is defending Luka's scoring and passing very effectively

Not the biggest need but if the Mavs could get Caruso

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BeiBeau · Post #59 » by **BeiBeau** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:40 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:CHI is defending Luka's scoring and passing very effectively

100% Kyrie is a necessary part of this team. This "just add 2 3 and D players instead" is really kinda dumb.

Bob8 · Post #60 » by **Bob8** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:40 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:We have a doctor in the house!!!

Whats the early read on the Maxi injury?

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Did I ever say anything personal against you or anyone else? No. You on the other hand. But that's a problem for moderator not me.

Don't you think that's interesting how some players are nonstop out with minor injuries and others aren't?
There's nothing you can do about players sitting. How do you think Clippers fans feel?

Luka is in his 20s and can't play b2b. Feels like that should be something to get made about as well.

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Yes, we should talk about Luka's back2backs, while Kyrie is load managing in the start of the season. Maybe Kyrie should play only second games of back2backs?