ImageImageImage

RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST)

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#41 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:20 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Bob read the posts and what the response was. Not that difficult to do.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


And you still didn't answer my direct question to you. Why not?
This is really hard for you today isn't it? Go back and read.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


I didn't see your answer. You still dogged it for 24 hours.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#42 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:22 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
And you still didn't answer my direct question to you. Why not?
This is really hard for you today isn't it? Go back and read.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


I didn't see your answer. You still dogged it for 24 hours.
Bob you just responded to my answer about Ayton and in the next post you're telling me I didn't answer. This is an all timer.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#43 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:25 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Our FO(and some posters here) is ok with Powell like backup C, it's pretty clear now, there's no point talking about it anymore so it's ok for me too.



So I state the team needs a better backup center, but I wouldn't take Ayton/another higher price center for various reasons and you come away with I like Powell. The nonsense never ends.


Why nonsense? Ayton is career 16/10 player. When Mavs had C like that?
26 min equals 24hrs interesting

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#44 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:31 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:This is really hard for you today isn't it? Go back and read.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


I didn't see your answer. You still dogged it for 24 hours.
Bob you just responded to my answer about Ayton and in the next post you're telling me I didn't answer. This is an all timer.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


You have answered my original question, after 24 hours, only 20 minutes ago, which I didn't see.

For me things are really easy. Ayton for 30 mio and no Josh or waiting for imaginary cheap C, who can protect the rim? We're waiting for him 5 years now.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#45 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:38 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I didn't see your answer. You still dogged it for 24 hours.
Bob you just responded to my answer about Ayton and in the next post you're telling me I didn't answer. This is an all timer.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


You answered my primary question only 20 minutes ago, which I didn't see.

For me things are really easy. Ayton for 30 mio and no Josh or waiting for imaginary cheap C, who can protect the rim?


Bob you just asked the question 26 min ago and are claiming you asked in 24hrs ago.

When was the last time you saw Ayton bully someone down low instead of taking a midrange jumper? Probably explains why his FG% has dropped each of the last 3 years. But hey lets add a guy with a poor work ethic for 30 million a year cuz Wood worked out so well with Wood.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#46 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:45 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Bob you just responded to my answer about Ayton and in the next post you're telling me I didn't answer. This is an all timer.

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app


You answered my primary question only 20 minutes ago, which I didn't see.

For me things are really easy. Ayton for 30 mio and no Josh or waiting for imaginary cheap C, who can protect the rim?


Bob you just asked the question 26 min ago and are claiming you asked in 24hrs ago.

When was the last time you saw Ayton bully someone down low instead of taking a midrange jumper? Probably explains why his FG% has dropped each of the last 3 years. But hey lets add a guy with a poor work ethic for 30 million a year cuz Wood worked out so well with Wood.


My question was on December 19, 23.57, more than 24 hours ago.

Ayton was 18/10 in the Suns with proper Pg. He was pretty decent in D too. Those numbers are better than Mavs had in C in last 10 years. And I believe Luka and Mavs contending could be very positive affect on Ayton. And what was risk taking him, Kleber/Powell and Josh are not bringing anything at all.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#47 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:51 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Of course it matters, Ayton is overpaid and lazy. Sure Dallas desperately needs another big, but not one making 30 mil a year with his attitude and apathy. AT this point a guy like Robin Lopez, Alex Len, or Thomas Bryant would do, and their salaries are reasonable.

Green and Hardy's regression has hurt this team badly as Khalil said. Hardy just isnt very smart, and Green is a bum who checked out as soon as the ink dried on his new extension.


Agreed.

Not sure why the Mavs would want to sink that much money into a guy who loves playing video games more than basketball or any other center making a decent amount. Lively is playing more mins than I think most of us thought he would so a cheaper big who can be a better spot starter than what the Mavs currently have seems more reasonable.


Funny thing is that they wanted to sink that much money, they just didn't want to include Josh. ;) It looks to me that they can't find that cheap C or we would already have 1 after 5 years of trying and failing miserably few times.


Bob there isn't a question in here.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#48 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:56 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You answered my primary question only 20 minutes ago, which I didn't see.

For me things are really easy. Ayton for 30 mio and no Josh or waiting for imaginary cheap C, who can protect the rim?


Bob you just asked the question 26 min ago and are claiming you asked in 24hrs ago.

When was the last time you saw Ayton bully someone down low instead of taking a midrange jumper? Probably explains why his FG% has dropped each of the last 3 years. But hey lets add a guy with a poor work ethic for 30 million a year cuz Wood worked out so well with Wood.


My question was on December 19, 23.57, more than 24 hours ago.

Ayton was 18/10 in the Suns with proper Pg. He was pretty decent in D too. Those numbers are better than Mavs had in C in last 10 years. And I believe Luka and Mavs contending could be very positive affect on Ayton. And what was risk taking him, Kleber/Powell and Josh are not bringing anything at all.


Ayton played with CP3 one of the greatest PGs ever and he wanted to shoot him into the sun. Again he was on a title contending team and only cared about the his bag (real high character guy).
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#49 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:56 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Agreed.

Not sure why the Mavs would want to sink that much money into a guy who loves playing video games more than basketball or any other center making a decent amount. Lively is playing more mins than I think most of us thought he would so a cheaper big who can be a better spot starter than what the Mavs currently have seems more reasonable.


Funny thing is that they wanted to sink that much money, they just didn't want to include Josh. ;) It looks to me that they can't find that cheap C or we would already have 1 after 5 years of trying and failing miserably few times.


Bob there isn't a question in here.


Question is obvious for smart guy like you.

Why they wanted to trade for him, if they wouldn't want sink that money?

They didn't make the deal only because their valuation of Josh was wrong.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#50 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:59 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob you just asked the question 26 min ago and are claiming you asked in 24hrs ago.

When was the last time you saw Ayton bully someone down low instead of taking a midrange jumper? Probably explains why his FG% has dropped each of the last 3 years. But hey lets add a guy with a poor work ethic for 30 million a year cuz Wood worked out so well with Wood.


My question was on December 19, 23.57, more than 24 hours ago.

Ayton was 18/10 in the Suns with proper Pg. He was pretty decent in D too. Those numbers are better than Mavs had in C in last 10 years. And I believe Luka and Mavs contending could be very positive affect on Ayton. And what was risk taking him, Kleber/Powell and Josh are not bringing anything at all.


Ayton played with CP3 one of the greatest PGs ever and he wanted to shoot him into the sun. Again he was on a title contending team and only cared about the his bag (real high character guy).


And what was the main reason for Suns' collapse against Mavs? One of the greatest Pgs ever, and it wasn't the first time. If CP3 was really one of the greatest Pg ever, Suns would have won against Mavs and both Ayton and CP3 would have still be in Phoenix.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#51 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:07 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Funny thing is that they wanted to sink that much money, they just didn't want to include Josh. ;) It looks to me that they can't find that cheap C or we would already have 1 after 5 years of trying and failing miserably few times.


Bob there isn't a question in here.


Question is obvious for smart guy like you.

Why they wanted to trade for him, if they wouldn't want sink that money?

They didn't make the deal only because their valuation of Josh was wrong.


Bob good job on learning to use question marks, but you still never asked a question as all you did was quote me. This really shouldn't be that hard.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#52 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:09 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
My question was on December 19, 23.57, more than 24 hours ago.

Ayton was 18/10 in the Suns with proper Pg. He was pretty decent in D too. Those numbers are better than Mavs had in C in last 10 years. And I believe Luka and Mavs contending could be very positive affect on Ayton. And what was risk taking him, Kleber/Powell and Josh are not bringing anything at all.


Ayton played with CP3 one of the greatest PGs ever and he wanted to shoot him into the sun. Again he was on a title contending team and only cared about the his bag (real high character guy).


And what was the main reason for Suns' collapse against Mavs? One of the greatest Pgs ever, and it wasn't the first time. If CP3 was really one of the greatest Pg ever, Suns would have won against Mavs and both Ayton and CP3 would have still be in Phoenix.


Yes his play has declined but his intelligence has not and he like everyone else under the sun, but you realizes the guy is a loser and only looking out for himself....like Wood.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#53 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:11 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob there isn't a question in here.


Question is obvious for smart guy like you.

Why they wanted to trade for him, if they wouldn't want sink that money?

They didn't make the deal only because their valuation of Josh was wrong.


Bob good job on learning to use question marks, but you still never asked a question as all you did was quote me. This really shouldn't be that hard.


We're going after technically now? You have answered numerous quoted posts without questions mark. But ok, I will ask you, why they wanted to trade for him, if they didn't like his salary?
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#54 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:21 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Question is obvious for smart guy like you.

Why they wanted to trade for him, if they wouldn't want sink that money?

They didn't make the deal only because their valuation of Josh was wrong.


Bob good job on learning to use question marks, but you still never asked a question as all you did was quote me. This really shouldn't be that hard.


We're going after technically now? You have answered numerous quoted posts without questions mark. But ok, I will ask you, why they wanted to trade for him, if they didn't like his salary?


Bob theres literally no question being asked and just a comment from you. Do you think they really wanted him or they were more interested in dumping all their negative players which included McGee? Kinda tells me they were more interested in dumping players and if they really wanted this done they could have just taken McGee out and got it done.

Ayton isnt going to move the needle enough to put the Mavs into title contention and then everyone would be complaining we have an overpriced bum ass center who no one wants. There is no reason to pay a big that much money unless they are ELITE and Ayton is no where near elite.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#55 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:27 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob good job on learning to use question marks, but you still never asked a question as all you did was quote me. This really shouldn't be that hard.


We're going after technically now? You have answered numerous quoted posts without questions mark. But ok, I will ask you, why they wanted to trade for him, if they didn't like his salary?


Bob theres literally no question being asked and just a comment from you. Do you think they really wanted him or they were more interested in dumping all their negative players which included McGee? Kinda tells me they were more interested in dumping players and if they really wanted this done they could have just taken McGee out and got it done.

Ayton isnt going to move the needle enough to put the Mavs into title contention and they everyone would be complaining we have an overpriced bum ass center who no one wants.


More than people are complaining about Powell, Kleber, Josh and Hardy?

Ayton + Pf, who we could get for FRP we still owe, would make Mavs pretty solid team.

With Exum Mavs are pretty well positioned in 1 and, 2 if they get proper 4, they can move Grant on 3 and they could have Lively/Ayton on 5. That seems pretty solid team to me.

Now we have useless Powell, Kleber, Josh and Hardy.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#56 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:31 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
We're going after technically now? You have answered numerous quoted posts without questions mark. But ok, I will ask you, why they wanted to trade for him, if they didn't like his salary?


Bob theres literally no question being asked and just a comment from you. Do you think they really wanted him or they were more interested in dumping all their negative players which included McGee? Kinda tells me they were more interested in dumping players and if they really wanted this done they could have just taken McGee out and got it done.

Ayton isnt going to move the needle enough to put the Mavs into title contention and they everyone would be complaining we have an overpriced bum ass center who no one wants.


More than people are complaining about Powell, Kleber, Josh?

Ayton + Pf, who we could get for FRP we still owe, would make Mavs pretty solid team.

With Exum Mavs are pretty well positioned in 1 and, 2 if they get proper 4, they can move Grant on 3 and they could have Lively/Ayton on 5. That seems pretty solid team to me.,


Again Bob why do you want to stunt Livelys growth or have Ayton pout when he get benched again. The whole league knows this guy is a bum and is why he was traded for nothing. Not sure what PF you expect to get with 1 FRP but that player isnt going to move the need that much either. We dont know whats behind door #2 at the trade deadline but Ill take that over a 30mil a year bust any day.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#57 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:37 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob theres literally no question being asked and just a comment from you. Do you think they really wanted him or they were more interested in dumping all their negative players which included McGee? Kinda tells me they were more interested in dumping players and if they really wanted this done they could have just taken McGee out and got it done.

Ayton isnt going to move the needle enough to put the Mavs into title contention and they everyone would be complaining we have an overpriced bum ass center who no one wants.


More than people are complaining about Powell, Kleber, Josh?

Ayton + Pf, who we could get for FRP we still owe, would make Mavs pretty solid team.

With Exum Mavs are pretty well positioned in 1 and, 2 if they get proper 4, they can move Grant on 3 and they could have Lively/Ayton on 5. That seems pretty solid team to me.,


Again Bob why do you want to stunt Livelys growth or have Ayton pout when he get benched again. The whole league knows this guy is a bum and is why he was traded for nothing. Not sure what PF you expect to get with 1 FRP but that player isnt going to move the need that much either.


Look, Mavs wanted Ayton, gave the proposal, but Suns wanted Josh. I would say that Mavs could use Ayton much more than Josh.

Grant is too small for Pf. FRP might not be enough for elite Pf, but Mavs don't need elite, they need just someone like Portis.

Lively is not ready for 30 minutes and he for sure is not ready for playoffs matchup with serious Cs.
ejs78
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,332
And1: 1,091
Joined: Jul 03, 2015
 

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#58 » by ejs78 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:42 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
More than people are complaining about Powell, Kleber, Josh?

Ayton + Pf, who we could get for FRP we still owe, would make Mavs pretty solid team.

With Exum Mavs are pretty well positioned in 1 and, 2 if they get proper 4, they can move Grant on 3 and they could have Lively/Ayton on 5. That seems pretty solid team to me.,


Again Bob why do you want to stunt Livelys growth or have Ayton pout when he get benched again. The whole league knows this guy is a bum and is why he was traded for nothing. Not sure what PF you expect to get with 1 FRP but that player isnt going to move the need that much either.


Look, Mavs wanted Ayton, gave the proposal, but Suns wanted Josh. I would say that Mavs could use Ayton much more than Josh.

Grant is too small for Pf. FRP might not ve enough for elite Pf, but Mavs don't need elite, they need just someone like Portis.


Have a good night and enjoy the game.
BliscoSantos
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,748
And1: 973
Joined: Oct 11, 2022
   

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#59 » by BliscoSantos » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:47 am

How is that not a travel on Kawhi :banghead:
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,888
And1: 4,572
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: RS 23/24 - Mavs vs Clippers (Wed., 830PMEST) 

Post#60 » by Bob8 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:48 am

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Again Bob why do you want to stunt Livelys growth or have Ayton pout when he get benched again. The whole league knows this guy is a bum and is why he was traded for nothing. Not sure what PF you expect to get with 1 FRP but that player isnt going to move the need that much either.


Look, Mavs wanted Ayton, gave the proposal, but Suns wanted Josh. I would say that Mavs could use Ayton much more than Josh.

Grant is too small for Pf. FRP might not ve enough for elite Pf, but Mavs don't need elite, they need just someone like Portis.


Have a good night and enjoy the game.


Difficult to enjoy the game watching Powell in starting lineup.

Return to Dallas Mavericks