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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#41 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:27 pm

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Teffer10 wrote:Mavs might have to consider compromising Gafford in a trade to improve our situation next season.


Trade Gafford = Maxi and Powell at the C.


Yeah,Gafford stays...THJ, Maxi and Green are the ones that need to be shopped,replaced... you're probably gonna have to include 25 first,some seconds or Hardy ,Omax if you want to upgrade

CHA was keen on Green...have to check f they still want him,maybe they'll give a first...THJ could be going to DET,ORL or some team with capspace...I'd trade him for Deandre Hunter,maybe a second rounders
Maxi has the least value...injury prone,two years left...Will be hard to move him
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Post#42 » by GermanFan120 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:49 am

Teffer10 wrote:Mavs might have to consider compromising Gafford in a trade to improve our situation next season.



Gafford and Lively are not going anywhere.

They are heart and soul of this team.
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Post#43 » by joesha1698 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:21 am

Quick hitters in no particular order:

1#:Develop that 3 point shot with Lively when teams switch everything so he can space out as a shooter which gives Luka and Kyrie more room to work 1on1.

2#: Develop PJ Washington into a Draymon Green like asset for this team. He'll push the break, set up our shooters, and in general should be conditioned for a bigger and more important role. I wouldn't just use him how we're using him now.

#3: Upgrade the SF position with someone who can defend and hit shots at a more consistent clip than DJJ. Klay? Paul George? Bradon Ingram? There are names out there. This would definitely take a sign and trade. I heard Dallas was interested in Klay. Not sure who that guy will be but I feel we need an upgrade.

#4: Work on playing quicker and sharing the ball more. I think adding a really good knock down shooter (who can defend) and developing PJ Washington into a point-forward role will help us in this department. I notice Kyrie and Luka are playing much better in these last two home games vs Boston b/c their not over thinking. They are just reacting to angle on defense and attacking their defenders. That's basically what Tatum and Brown are doing - picking a side and barreling themselves to the basket.

I have more suggestions but those are just some that come to mind right now!
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#44 » by arkuo » Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:49 am

joesha1698 wrote:Quick hitters in no particular order:

1#:Develop that 3 point shot with Lively when teams switch everything so he can space out as a shooter which gives Luka and Kyrie more room to work 1on1.

2#: Develop PJ Washington into a Draymon Green like asset for this team. He'll push the break, set up our shooters, and in general should be conditioned for a bigger and more important role. I wouldn't just use him how we're using him now.

#3: Upgrade the SF position with someone who can defend and hit shots at a more consistent clip than DJJ. Klay? Paul George? Bradon Ingram? There are names out there. This would definitely take a sign and trade. I heard Dallas was interested in Klay. Not sure who that guy will be but I feel we need an upgrade.

#4: Work on playing quicker and sharing the ball more. I think adding a really good knock down shooter (who can defend) and developing PJ Washington into a point-forward role will help us in this department. I notice Kyrie and Luka are playing much better in these last two home games vs Boston b/c their not over thinking. They are just reacting to angle on defense and attacking their defenders. That's basically what Tatum and Brown are doing - picking a side and barreling themselves to the basket.

I have more suggestions but those are just some that come to mind right now!


Quick note: If Lively develops a 3 pointer, you're looking at a near-max player. Puts him above Myles Turner's paygrade IMO. Dallas better bring more pieces in fast.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#45 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:45 am

arkuo wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:Quick hitters in no particular order:

1#:Develop that 3 point shot with Lively when teams switch everything so he can space out as a shooter which gives Luka and Kyrie more room to work 1on1.

2#: Develop PJ Washington into a Draymon Green like asset for this team. He'll push the break, set up our shooters, and in general should be conditioned for a bigger and more important role. I wouldn't just use him how we're using him now.

#3: Upgrade the SF position with someone who can defend and hit shots at a more consistent clip than DJJ. Klay? Paul George? Bradon Ingram? There are names out there. This would definitely take a sign and trade. I heard Dallas was interested in Klay. Not sure who that guy will be but I feel we need an upgrade.

#4: Work on playing quicker and sharing the ball more. I think adding a really good knock down shooter (who can defend) and developing PJ Washington into a point-forward role will help us in this department. I notice Kyrie and Luka are playing much better in these last two home games vs Boston b/c their not over thinking. They are just reacting to angle on defense and attacking their defenders. That's basically what Tatum and Brown are doing - picking a side and barreling themselves to the basket.

I have more suggestions but those are just some that come to mind right now!


Quick note: If Lively develops a 3 pointer, you're looking at a near-max player. Puts him above Myles Turner's paygrade IMO. Dallas better bring more pieces in fast.


I can't understand why every center in the world have to become a 3 points shooters... Teach them post moves, how to pass the ball, how to set screens and all big stuffs!!!

I don't want another weak ass Towns.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#46 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:35 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:Quick hitters in no particular order:

1#:Develop that 3 point shot with Lively when teams switch everything so he can space out as a shooter which gives Luka and Kyrie more room to work 1on1.

2#: Develop PJ Washington into a Draymon Green like asset for this team. He'll push the break, set up our shooters, and in general should be conditioned for a bigger and more important role. I wouldn't just use him how we're using him now.

#3: Upgrade the SF position with someone who can defend and hit shots at a more consistent clip than DJJ. Klay? Paul George? Bradon Ingram? There are names out there. This would definitely take a sign and trade. I heard Dallas was interested in Klay. Not sure who that guy will be but I feel we need an upgrade.

#4: Work on playing quicker and sharing the ball more. I think adding a really good knock down shooter (who can defend) and developing PJ Washington into a point-forward role will help us in this department. I notice Kyrie and Luka are playing much better in these last two home games vs Boston b/c their not over thinking. They are just reacting to angle on defense and attacking their defenders. That's basically what Tatum and Brown are doing - picking a side and barreling themselves to the basket.

I have more suggestions but those are just some that come to mind right now!


Quick note: If Lively develops a 3 pointer, you're looking at a near-max player. Puts him above Myles Turner's paygrade IMO. Dallas better bring more pieces in fast.


I can't understand why every center in the world have to become a 3 points shooters... Teach them post moves, how to pass the ball, how to set screens and all big stuffs!!!

I don't want another weak ass Towns.

Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#47 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:36 am

Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Quick note: If Lively develops a 3 pointer, you're looking at a near-max player. Puts him above Myles Turner's paygrade IMO. Dallas better bring more pieces in fast.


I can't understand why every center in the world have to become a 3 points shooters... Teach them post moves, how to pass the ball, how to set screens and all big stuffs!!!

I don't want another weak ass Towns.

Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#48 » by GermanFan120 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:22 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
I can't understand why every center in the world have to become a 3 points shooters... Teach them post moves, how to pass the ball, how to set screens and all big stuffs!!!

I don't want another weak ass Towns.

Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.


Lively developing post moves and turning to David Robinson will take us to a whole new level too.

Plus, I saw Klay was mentioned in the original post. Klay nowadays cannot play any defense. And he shoots 3s as good as Tim Hardaway Jr. So hell no. DJJ is way better than Klay. Didn't you see how DJJ attacked the paint last night while knocking down some 3? Klay would have laid eggs instead.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#49 » by joesha1698 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:36 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
I can't understand why every center in the world have to become a 3 points shooters... Teach them post moves, how to pass the ball, how to set screens and all big stuffs!!!

I don't want another weak ass Towns.

Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.



Lively has shown in his pre draft workout that he can really shoot from the 3. He also has a history of really being able to shoot in highschool. So, I would say 80-90% of time Lively will be setting pick and roll (getting to the basket for a jam) or working in the post.

However, Boston (switching defense) is something that will be copied by other teams going forward. They are essentially resting Tatum on a big while Tatum plays help or switches. The Mavs have to adjust to this style of guarding Luka and Kyrie. By stretching Lively (kinda like Boston does with Porzingis) you essentially have the threat of the 3 at all times. When Gafford is in the game, instead of stretching him - you just throw him the ball and let him go to work. But either way, developing Lively's 3 - gives us that option to really stretch teams defense when we need to.

If this Boston series taught us anything:

1. Teams will copy Boston's defensive approach (especially if they win this series) - playing their best defender at the dunker spot/switching.

2. Having a 5 guy that can slide out to corner 3 - forces teams to be a little more cautious / it also opens up the paint for the driver more.

3. If they play our bigs this way - we also have the option of just throwing the ball to Gafford or Lively in the post or having Lively slide out to the corner 3 to stretch out their defense and open up paint more. These are situational adjustments we have to make as a team going forward to best utilize our players and how the opposition is guarding us.

Gafford - should develop 2 solid go to post moves in the off season.
Lively - should develop 2 solid post moves and work on his 3 point shot. Also keep in mind, if he continues to improve at the 3 - we can afford to move Maxi even more.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#50 » by GermanFan120 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:14 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.



Lively has shown in his pre draft workout that he can really shoot from the 3. He also has a history of really being able to shoot in highschool. So, I would say 80-90% of time Lively will be setting pick and roll (getting to the basket for a jam) or working in the post.

However, Boston (switching defense) is something that will be copied by other teams going forward. They are essentially resting Tatum on a big while Tatum plays help or switches. The Mavs have to adjust to this style of guarding Luka and Kyrie. By stretching Lively (kinda like Boston does with Porzingis) you essentially have the threat of the 3 at all times. When Gafford is in the game, instead of stretching him - you just throw him the ball and let him go to work. But either way, developing Lively's 3 - gives us that option to really stretch teams defense when we need to.

If this Boston series taught us anything:

1. Teams will copy Boston's defensive approach (especially if they win this series) - playing their best defender at the dunker spot/switching.

2. Having a 5 guy that can slide out to corner 3 - forces teams to be a little more cautious / it also opens up the paint for the driver more.

3. If they play our bigs this way - we also have the option of just throwing the ball to Gafford or Lively in the post or having Lively slide out to the corner 3 to stretch out their defense and open up paint more. These are situational adjustments we have to make as a team going forward to best utilize our players and how the opposition is guarding us.

Gafford - should develop 2 solid go to post moves in the off season.
Lively - should develop 2 solid post moves and work on his 3 point shot. Also keep in mind, if he continues to improve at the 3 - we can afford to move Maxi even more.


Solid point.

But what this series really taught us was we are not deep enough and we have negative assets that we need to get rid of to improve the roster. We are 1 or 1.5 pieces away from the ultimate form.

It is the offense that lost us the series, MAINLY.
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Post#51 » by arkuo » Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:24 pm

Would Klay Thompson be an upgrade over THJ?
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Post#52 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:07 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.



Lively has shown in his pre draft workout that he can really shoot from the 3. He also has a history of really being able to shoot in highschool. So, I would say 80-90% of time Lively will be setting pick and roll (getting to the basket for a jam) or working in the post.

However, Boston (switching defense) is something that will be copied by other teams going forward. They are essentially resting Tatum on a big while Tatum plays help or switches. The Mavs have to adjust to this style of guarding Luka and Kyrie. By stretching Lively (kinda like Boston does with Porzingis) you essentially have the threat of the 3 at all times. When Gafford is in the game, instead of stretching him - you just throw him the ball and let him go to work. But either way, developing Lively's 3 - gives us that option to really stretch teams defense when we need to.

If this Boston series taught us anything:

1. Teams will copy Boston's defensive approach (especially if they win this series) - playing their best defender at the dunker spot/switching.

2. Having a 5 guy that can slide out to corner 3 - forces teams to be a little more cautious / it also opens up the paint for the driver more.

3. If they play our bigs this way - we also have the option of just throwing the ball to Gafford or Lively in the post or having Lively slide out to the corner 3 to stretch out their defense and open up paint more. These are situational adjustments we have to make as a team going forward to best utilize our players and how the opposition is guarding us.

Gafford - should develop 2 solid go to post moves in the off season.
Lively - should develop 2 solid post moves and work on his 3 point shot. Also keep in mind, if he continues to improve at the 3 - we can afford to move Maxi even more.


Lively is a force of nature and he takes a ton of offensive rebounds, i don't want to take him out of the paint to shoot 3s unless he is Ray Allen.

And Lively with good post moves against Tatum or White is a 90% FG made machine.

Boston played in this way because Kidd never attacked the miss match in the paint, i doubt Tatum would have guarded Embiid against Phila.

Every team has weakness, just attack them.

Kidd played all series how Boston always dreamed :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#53 » by BeiBeau » Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:25 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.



Lively has shown in his pre draft workout that he can really shoot from the 3. He also has a history of really being able to shoot in highschool. So, I would say 80-90% of time Lively will be setting pick and roll (getting to the basket for a jam) or working in the post.

However, Boston (switching defense) is something that will be copied by other teams going forward. They are essentially resting Tatum on a big while Tatum plays help or switches. The Mavs have to adjust to this style of guarding Luka and Kyrie. By stretching Lively (kinda like Boston does with Porzingis) you essentially have the threat of the 3 at all times. When Gafford is in the game, instead of stretching him - you just throw him the ball and let him go to work. But either way, developing Lively's 3 - gives us that option to really stretch teams defense when we need to.

If this Boston series taught us anything:

1. Teams will copy Boston's defensive approach (especially if they win this series) - playing their best defender at the dunker spot/switching.

2. Having a 5 guy that can slide out to corner 3 - forces teams to be a little more cautious / it also opens up the paint for the driver more.

3. If they play our bigs this way - we also have the option of just throwing the ball to Gafford or Lively in the post or having Lively slide out to the corner 3 to stretch out their defense and open up paint more. These are situational adjustments we have to make as a team going forward to best utilize our players and how the opposition is guarding us.

Gafford - should develop 2 solid go to post moves in the off season.
Lively - should develop 2 solid post moves and work on his 3 point shot. Also keep in mind, if he continues to improve at the 3 - we can afford to move Maxi even more.


Gafford is 25 and has played NBA level basketball for years. If the post moves were coming then they would be here by now.

There is a reason that the only 2 centers in the entire league that post up are Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic.
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Post#54 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:43 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Lively developing a good 3pt shot would take this team to another level.
An elite shotblocker who can spread the floor is every coach's dream.
Besides, we'll be dealing with Wemby and Chet for several years so we might as well have one of our own.


Let them waste size advantage with stupid 3points develop... Chet missed 3s were one of the biggest reason of our Ws.

I'm ok everytime i will see Chet or Wemby shoot from outside the paint.



Lively has shown in his pre draft workout that he can really shoot from the 3. He also has a history of really being able to shoot in highschool. So, I would say 80-90% of time Lively will be setting pick and roll (getting to the basket for a jam) or working in the post.

However, Boston (switching defense) is something that will be copied by other teams going forward. They are essentially resting Tatum on a big while Tatum plays help or switches. The Mavs have to adjust to this style of guarding Luka and Kyrie. By stretching Lively (kinda like Boston does with Porzingis) you essentially have the threat of the 3 at all times. When Gafford is in the game, instead of stretching him - you just throw him the ball and let him go to work. But either way, developing Lively's 3 - gives us that option to really stretch teams defense when we need to.

If this Boston series taught us anything:

1. Teams will copy Boston's defensive approach (especially if they win this series) - playing their best defender at the dunker spot/switching.

2. Having a 5 guy that can slide out to corner 3 - forces teams to be a little more cautious / it also opens up the paint for the driver more.

3. If they play our bigs this way - we also have the option of just throwing the ball to Gafford or Lively in the post or having Lively slide out to the corner 3 to stretch out their defense and open up paint more. These are situational adjustments we have to make as a team going forward to best utilize our players and how the opposition is guarding us.

Gafford - should develop 2 solid go to post moves in the off season.
Lively - should develop 2 solid post moves and work on his 3 point shot. Also keep in mind, if he continues to improve at the 3 - we can afford to move Maxi even more.

Exactly!
And your #2 would be the greatest benefit.
Pulling Chet, Wemby, Kessler, Rudy and other shot blockers 18ft from the basket would make Luka and Kyrie and even PJ complete nightmares in the paint.
It could also open up possible opportunities to play Lively and Gafford together in certain situations.
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Post#55 » by joesha1698 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:50 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Mavs might have to consider compromising Gafford in a trade to improve our situation next season.


Trade Gafford = Maxi and Powell at the C.


Yeah, Gafford stays...THJ, Maxi and Green are the ones that need to be shopped, replaced... you're probably gonna have to include 25 first,some seconds or Hardy ,Omax if you want to upgrade

CHA was keen on Green...have to check f they still want him, maybe they'll give a first...THJ could be going to DET,ORL or some team with capspace...I'd trade him for Deandre Hunter, maybe a second rounders
Maxi has the least value...injury prone, two years left...Will be hard to move him


I agree for the most part. I personally would keep Omax over Hardy. I would only give Omax away if we're getting an Allstar level type guy back. Plus Hardy will be on his last year in 24-25 and Exum has that 1 year remaining. Green always finds his way back on this team but in all seriousness - his basketball IQ shows up at the wrong times with decision making at the rim, un-necessary fouls, and bad decisions on the court. The Mavs need players who play hard, smart, consistent, and I would add in anyone who has a little DAWG/ GRIT - whatever you want to call it.

Maxi - too injured. Makes too much. (will have manageable 2yrs @ 11mil each after this season) and will not be needed as much if Lively can expand his game and add that 3 point shot when teams are playing us like the Celtics.

THG - At his age -(30s) just struggles to compete with young offensive players. Shot is some-what inconsistent despite him being a knock down shooter when he has it going. With an expiring contract on the books for roughly 18mil next season - is there a player out there a team is trying to move and would take these guys back for them?

Between THJ, Hardy, and Maxi - your looking at $29,212,882 - roughly 30 million dollars. 18,212,882 (18 million..est) of which is expiring between Hardy and THJ. With Maxi contract's being an expiring contract the next year. We can definitely make this work b/c there are teams looking to create space and possibly willing to take these guys.

Brooklyn Nets?
Finney Smith + Schroeder for THJ+Hardy +(couple of 2nd rounders) (Schroder is one of those grit guys that would take over in the Hardy role and sometimes you can play Exum and Schroder together. He will not make mistakes) Or just THJ + second rounder(s) for Finney Smith.

Alt?
Deandre Hunter (career 36% 3 point shooter / strong/athletics/cleaner shooting style than DDJ - 3 years left between 21-24 million(manageable) for Maxi+THJ + 2nd rounder(s).

GS?
Andrew Wiggins for THJ + Maxi + 2 rounder(s) or Sign and Trade for Klay Thompson for 30 million for 2 years with a 3rd year player option. GS could then use the expiring contracts of THJ+Chris Paul = 46,993, 1183. Maybe they can target another big name? Paul George if he's opting out and Clippers want something for him but also cap space going forward?

Port?
Jerami Grant for THJ + Maxi + 2nd rounders. Jerami is a career 36% 3-point shooter. He has also had a couple of 40% 3pt shooting years. He's due avg of 33mil per season for the next 4 yrs. He's a more capable scorer than DJJ and should be solid on defense against bigger forwards like Tatum and Brown. Portland would land 1 expiring and 1 soon to be expiring contracts.


Chi?
Patrick Williams + Caruso for THJ + Hardy + 2nd rounder(s). Not sure why Bulls do this but worth a shot - maybe they need help in a bigger trade surrounding LaVine? Caruso on last year and Williams has qualifying offer - which makes him RFA- could agree to a Grant Williams type of deal and send him to Dallas. He has a nice shooting form (reminds me of Kwahi ) and shoots 41% from 3 on his career. Good athlete and strong. Known as solid defender. And you know what you get in Caruso.


Those are a couple of options I wanted to throw out there.


Ones I like the most:

Brooklyn: Just the toughness of F-Smith and the familiarity with Luka and Kidd. I also think Schroder is a winner and someone who has that toughness and grit that we need. If Brooklyn doesn't want to give up Schroder - just getting Finney Smith for THJ and one or two second rounders is a good deal.

Bulls: I think Patrick Williams (22 yrs old) + Caruso would be excellent. Patrick Williams has a nice shooting form. He's patient and a really strong guy. He's kind of built like Leonard. Definitely a floor spacer. Not a DDJ level athlete but his offensive game is a lot more refined and he has a refined shooting motion. Even if we could some-how just get Patrick Williams by helping to facilitate a Lavine trade - I would be happy.

Warriors: He's 29 and is still a supreme athlete and better on the offensive end than DJJ. He's shooting 35% from 3 career wise but had 3 previous seasons at 38% or better...playing with Luka and Kyrie - I could see him shooting 37-38%. Plus you know what he can do defensively when he's locked in. He has 3 yrs left at around 30 million a season. GS could use THJ contract+ Chris Paul (expiring) to make a big move and could keep Maxi for one year and then use him in a deal if they see fit. Might work out for both teams?

Atl? Deandre Hunter for all the mentioned above. But I would go after those other trades first.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

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Build around:
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Lively
Kyrie
PJ

Only trade if offer is incredible
Gafford

Do what you can to keep
Derrick Jones Jr

Grow and develop
Omax
Hardy

Meh
Maxi
Powell
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Green
THJ
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#57 » by blueberrysticky » Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:38 am

daoneandonly wrote:Build around:
Luka
Lively
Kyrie
PJ

Only trade if offer is incredible
Gafford

Do what you can to keep
Derrick Jones Jr

Grow and develop
Omax
Hardy

Meh
Maxi
Powell
Exum

Open the door and tell them to kick rocks
Green
THJ


Mostly agree with this unless any gafford trade doesn’t bring us in a center of at least his caliber.

Simply because when lively sits and Powell is on the court we will be a negative 25 per game

I’d rather try to just move off THJ and at least maxi as well if maxi doesn’t stop hesitating open 3pters in our small ball lineup
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#58 » by arkuo » Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:43 am

If Gafford is traded for a quality wing, then Kyrie needs to use his relationship with Nic Claxton and bring him in as center. Claxton has been saying all year that Kyrie is his mentor. So there's that and Claxton is UFA.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#59 » by GermanFan120 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:47 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Build around:
Luka
Lively
Kyrie
PJ

Only trade if offer is incredible
Gafford

Do what you can to keep
Derrick Jones Jr

Grow and develop
Omax
Hardy

Meh
Maxi
Powell
Exum

Open the door and tell them to kick rocks
Green
THJ


Funny enough for me to say, as much as I don't appreciate Green's ball IQ, it's not a MUST trade to get rid of him.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#60 » by GermanFan120 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:01 pm

I'd say THJ and Powell are must go. They are absolute negative assets.

Maxi semi-must go. Maxi is turning to be a negative asset real quick.

Green will be traded only for an upgrade for us. Green is not really a negative asset.
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