What if Nico somehow gets Giannis to Mavs?

[joesha1698]

Max Christie needs some meditation practice this summer to become the next Kobe. The killer mentality and shooting consistency are missing components for Max to become a significant playoff contributor.

I'm hard to say but probably Max Christie is just a guy... I don't even know if he will be a starter in the league.

His hype is vanished after 5 games. Ouch.

Yea I don’t see that killer in Max Christie that Kobe had. Max can be a good role player here but he’s not THAT guy.

I don't see why Max is even being compared to Kobe. Two different talent tiers...not even comparable, imo.

[joesha1698]

I doubt Giannis, or any top player or FA or draft pick from here on out, will ever want to willingly go to Dallas so long as this clown owner/FO are around. Also get used to vastly overpaying any FA in the future. That's the price you pay when you throw your entire city, fans, franchise, and players under the bus deliberately and maliciously.

Don't believe me?

See

Chris Cohan's Warriors
Donald Sterling's Clippers
[insert Patrick Dumont & Nico Harrison-of-a-b**** here]
etc


Flip side? Good owners/FO's keep their players around long-term and pick up top tier FA's

Joe Lacob's Warriors with Curry, Draymond, Klay, KD, Iggy, Bogut, etc.
Peter Holt's Spurs with Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Wemby, etc.
Jerry Buss, Buss family's Lakers with Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, LeBron etc

Dallas has always been player friendly. I think as long as their are guys here others desire to pay with they will come. Plus, Dallas is still better than a lot of places..SA, Canada, Memphis, Utah, to name a few..

[joesha1698]

Bucks are done, and Giannis is pissed and wants out, and Bucks org knows they are a mess and Giannis wants out.

What if Nico makes everyone on Mavs roster available and is able to trade for Giannis to match the salary?

Questions:
1. Would Nico redeem his deadly mistake from the terrible Luka trade if he is able to pull off this trade?
2. Would you be able to swallow the pain from the Luka trade and look forward to future as a Mavs fan?
3. Would you think Giannis will be able to put Mavs back on the map again as a title contender?

I think the Mavs should probably draft Cooper Flagg. Whoever gets Dylan Harper is going to probably get an allstar as well. He's probably low key a more sure bet than Flagg from an eye test perspective. Harper's skill set will easily translate into the NBA right away -- whereas Cooper is going to really have to work on his game and figure out how to slowly become that guy. That's my hunch from watching both of their games a bit.

As for Giannis, I say we do not need him. This team is very good without him. I say we should resist the temptation to get older as well. I would not go after KD either unless I get him in a steal. I would focus on young, high-IQ, two way players. If we can swing a trade for CJ McCollum and Herb Jones that would excellent. I know CJ is not young but i trust his IQ, play making, and his ability to come in for Kyrie until he's healthy and he's on 1 year deal.


Starting 5
PG: Kyrie
SG: Klay
SF: Herb Jones
PF:AD
C: Lively

Bench:
PG: CJ McCollum / B Williams - CJ will start for Kyrie until he returns
SG: CJ McCollum / Christie
SF: Christie /Flagg/Propser
PF: Flagg / Prosper
C: AD /Vet Back up

Note: Anytime Lively or AD is out of the game, Flagg would get minutes. He should get plenty. I would also rest AD a lot throughout the season and let Flagg play.


Would probably move on from:
Naji Marshall - too inconsistent of a shooter
PJ Washington - too inconsistent in general. needs higher bball iq.
Gafford - time to move on and get a decent backup center and use AD at C when needed.
Martin - good player but with klay and christie, should use a salary filler
Powell - dont need
Hardy - time to move on and possibly keep Brandon williams instead.


Note: As for Nico, this is looking more and more like a inside deal with the NBA. Luka went to the Lakers for ratings. He had no choice but to trade him to LAL. We got AD back. And we were promised the #1 pick. I honestly think this was kept between Adam and Durmont. I can't say for sure but I do not think Nico even knew all of this info. I think it was the Lakers all the way and I doubt Nico had much choice in the matter.

[f l u r p]

Giannis, AD, Flagg is not a front line that fits.

As great as Giannis is, as long as AD is a Mav, it won’t work.

[Mr B]

Giannis, AD, Flagg is not a front line that fits.

As great as Giannis is, as long as AD is a Mav, it won’t work.

[Michaellam1987]

Agree. AD/Giannis combo won’t work.

[arkuo]

Agree. AD/Giannis combo won’t work.

Yeah. It's either AD or Giannis. That's like pairing AD and Cousins together before.

[HMFFL]

I need to see AD off this team.

[arkuo]

AD + Flagg for Giannis. Would Dallas do it?

C- Gafford / Lively
PF- Giannis
SF - PJ
SG- Klay
PG- Kyrie

Sensitive Mavs fans would probably protest outside the AAC, but I think that lineup looks good.

I'm of the opinion that Flagg might not reach the level where Giannis is in his prime. To be fair, it would be difficult to find a human that would. But I do think Nico and his boys have to be careful with trading Flagg because Dallas loves it's white boys. So there's sentimental stuff going there that they have to consider. Other than that, talent for talent, I think Giannis clears. You'd need 3 guys guarding Giannis alone.

[ACMFFL]

AD + Flagg for Giannis. Would Dallas do it?

C- Gafford / Lively
PF- Giannis
SF - PJ
SG- Klay
PG- Kyrie

Sensitive Mavs fans would probably protest outside the AAC, but I think that lineup looks good.

I'm of the opinion that Flagg might not reach the level where Giannis is in his prime. To be fair, it would be difficult to find a human that would. But I do think Nico and his boys have to be careful with trading Flagg because Dallas loves it's white boys. So there's sentimental stuff going there that they have to consider. Other than that, talent for talent, I think Giannis clears. You'd need 3 guys guarding Giannis alone.

Nope, Giannis is a top3 but he's definitely not worth both Flagg and AD, nobody will pay that astronomical price for him, especially if he asks out.
And that team ain't going anywhere in the West in my opinion, it's barely a better team than the current Bucks considering Kyrie will be out until January at very best and who knows if he'll be back the same.

In a vacuum Giannis is worth Flagg and if we still had Luka I'd trade #1 for GA in a heartbeat but it's not worth the candle at this juncture.

In this new CBA era Mavs have a better shot at building a competitive and functional team around Flagg cost controlled contract than moving him for an expensive superstar.

And not only the sensitive ones, every Mavs fan who actually loves this franchise should protest if they move Flagg, I mean reality ain't 2k..

[41Dirk41]

AD + Flagg for Giannis. Would Dallas do it?

C- Gafford / Lively
PF- Giannis
SF - PJ
SG- Klay
PG- Kyrie

Sensitive Mavs fans would probably protest outside the AAC, but I think that lineup looks good.

I'm of the opinion that Flagg might not reach the level where Giannis is in his prime. To be fair, it would be difficult to find a human that would. But I do think Nico and his boys have to be careful with trading Flagg because Dallas loves it's white boys. So there's sentimental stuff going there that they have to consider. Other than that, talent for talent, I think Giannis clears. You'd need 3 guys guarding Giannis alone.

So it's Luka+Flagg for Giannis, Christie and a FRP... It's a disaster.

[41Dirk41]

I need to see AD off this team.

Me too.

[Michaellam1987]

Bucks are done, and Giannis is pissed and wants out, and Bucks org knows they are a mess and Giannis wants out.

What if Nico makes everyone on Mavs roster available and is able to trade for Giannis to match the salary?

Questions:
1. Would Nico redeem his deadly mistake from the terrible Luka trade if he is able to pull off this trade?
2. Would you be able to swallow the pain from the Luka trade and look forward to future as a Mavs fan?
3. Would you think Giannis will be able to put Mavs back on the map again as a title contender?

I think the Mavs should probably draft Cooper Flagg. Whoever gets Dylan Harper is going to probably get an allstar as well. He's probably low key a more sure bet than Flagg from an eye test perspective. Harper's skill set will easily translate into the NBA right away -- whereas Cooper is going to really have to work on his game and figure out how to slowly become that guy. That's my hunch from watching both of their games a bit.

As for Giannis, I say we do not need him. This team is very good without him. I say we should resist the temptation to get older as well. I would not go after KD either unless I get him in a steal. I would focus on young, high-IQ, two way players. If we can swing a trade for CJ McCollum and Herb Jones that would excellent. I know CJ is not young but i trust his IQ, play making, and his ability to come in for Kyrie until he's healthy and he's on 1 year deal.


Starting 5
PG: Kyrie
SG: Klay
SF: Herb Jones
PF:AD
C: Lively

Bench:
PG: CJ McCollum / B Williams - CJ will start for Kyrie until he returns
SG: CJ McCollum / Christie
SF: Christie /Flagg/Propser
PF: Flagg / Prosper
C: AD /Vet Back up

Note: Anytime Lively or AD is out of the game, Flagg would get minutes. He should get plenty. I would also rest AD a lot throughout the season and let Flagg play.


Would probably move on from:
Naji Marshall - too inconsistent of a shooter
PJ Washington - too inconsistent in general. needs higher bball iq.
Gafford - time to move on and get a decent backup center and use AD at C when needed.
Martin - good player but with klay and christie, should use a salary filler
Powell - dont need
Hardy - time to move on and possibly keep Brandon williams instead.


Note: As for Nico, this is looking more and more like a inside deal with the NBA. Luka went to the Lakers for ratings. He had no choice but to trade him to LAL. We got AD back. And we were promised the #1 pick. I honestly think this was kept between Adam and Durmont. I can't say for sure but I do not think Nico even knew all of this info. I think it was the Lakers all the way and I doubt Nico had much choice in the matter.

Honestly, I don’t think Nico has the power to push for such a mega trade and I don’t think the new owner will just listen to Nico without doing further more consultation and analysis. Would rather believe it is under the influence from the league in order to save the TV rating.

[arkuo]

AD + Flagg for Giannis. Would Dallas do it?

C- Gafford / Lively
PF- Giannis
SF - PJ
SG- Klay
PG- Kyrie

Sensitive Mavs fans would probably protest outside the AAC, but I think that lineup looks good.

I'm of the opinion that Flagg might not reach the level where Giannis is in his prime. To be fair, it would be difficult to find a human that would. But I do think Nico and his boys have to be careful with trading Flagg because Dallas loves it's white boys. So there's sentimental stuff going there that they have to consider. Other than that, talent for talent, I think Giannis clears. You'd need 3 guys guarding Giannis alone.

Nope, Giannis is a top3 but he's definitely not worth both Flagg and AD, nobody will pay that astronomical price for him, especially if he asks out.
And that team ain't going anywhere in the West in my opinion, it's barely a better team than the current Bucks considering Kyrie will be out until January at very best and who knows if he'll be back the same.

In a vacuum Giannis is worth Flagg and if we still had Luka I'd trade #1 for GA in a heartbeat but it's not worth the candle at this juncture.

In this new CBA era Mavs have a better shot at building a competitive and functional team around Flagg cost controlled contract than moving him for an expensive superstar.

And not only the sensitive ones, every Mavs fan who actually loves this franchise should protest if they move Flagg, I mean reality ain't 2k..

I personally think Giannis is above Flagg in terms of talent. Giannis is right up there. I'm not sure if Flagg would be able to reach that level in his prime. But I also do think that with the circumstances surrounding the team now, Nico just has to draft Flagg to calm the tension with the fanbase.

Giannis wouldnt fit with AD too. You'd have to trade them for each other or find another team for AD after the trade.

[ACMFFL]

AD + Flagg for Giannis. Would Dallas do it?

C- Gafford / Lively
PF- Giannis
SF - PJ
SG- Klay
PG- Kyrie

Sensitive Mavs fans would probably protest outside the AAC, but I think that lineup looks good.

I'm of the opinion that Flagg might not reach the level where Giannis is in his prime. To be fair, it would be difficult to find a human that would. But I do think Nico and his boys have to be careful with trading Flagg because Dallas loves it's white boys. So there's sentimental stuff going there that they have to consider. Other than that, talent for talent, I think Giannis clears. You'd need 3 guys guarding Giannis alone.

Nope, Giannis is a top3 but he's definitely not worth both Flagg and AD, nobody will pay that astronomical price for him, especially if he asks out.
And that team ain't going anywhere in the West in my opinion, it's barely a better team than the current Bucks considering Kyrie will be out until January at very best and who knows if he'll be back the same.

In a vacuum Giannis is worth Flagg and if we still had Luka I'd trade #1 for GA in a heartbeat but it's not worth the candle at this juncture.

In this new CBA era Mavs have a better shot at building a competitive and functional team around Flagg cost controlled contract than moving him for an expensive superstar.

And not only the sensitive ones, every Mavs fan who actually loves this franchise should protest if they move Flagg, I mean reality ain't 2k..

I personally think Giannis is above Flagg in terms of talent. Giannis is right up there. I'm not sure if Flagg would be able to reach that level in his prime. But I also do think that with the circumstances surrounding the team now, Nico just has to draft Flagg to calm the tension with the fanbase.

Giannis wouldnt fit with AD too. You'd have to trade them for each other or find another team for AD after the trade.

Yeah Flagg might never reach Giannis peak, who knows (still the very best American prospect in years, something that even the most clueless GM in the business can't overlook) but I still believe Giannis won't turn this team into a legit contender considering how much assets and/or depth he'd cost.

I'd rather enjoy the ride with Flagg and his growth than build a soulless dysfunctional mercenaries team, and looking at history it's not even a successful way to build a championship team, we had recent examples with BRK and PHX.

Mr. Harrison has no choice but to keep Cooper.

[arkuo]

Nope, Giannis is a top3 but he's definitely not worth both Flagg and AD, nobody will pay that astronomical price for him, especially if he asks out.
And that team ain't going anywhere in the West in my opinion, it's barely a better team than the current Bucks considering Kyrie will be out until January at very best and who knows if he'll be back the same.

In a vacuum Giannis is worth Flagg and if we still had Luka I'd trade #1 for GA in a heartbeat but it's not worth the candle at this juncture.

In this new CBA era Mavs have a better shot at building a competitive and functional team around Flagg cost controlled contract than moving him for an expensive superstar.

And not only the sensitive ones, every Mavs fan who actually loves this franchise should protest if they move Flagg, I mean reality ain't 2k..

I personally think Giannis is above Flagg in terms of talent. Giannis is right up there. I'm not sure if Flagg would be able to reach that level in his prime. But I also do think that with the circumstances surrounding the team now, Nico just has to draft Flagg to calm the tension with the fanbase.

Giannis wouldnt fit with AD too. You'd have to trade them for each other or find another team for AD after the trade.

Yeah Flagg might never reach Giannis peak, who knows (still the very best American prospect in years, something that even the most clueless GM in the business can't overlook) but I still believe Giannis won't turn this team into a legit contender considering how much assets and/or depth he'd cost.

I'd rather enjoy the ride with Flagg and his growth than build a soulless dysfunctional mercenaries team, and looking at history it's not even a successful way to build a championship team, we had recent examples with BRK and PHX.

Mr. Harrison has no choice but to keep Cooper.

Yeah I agree. With the circumstances surrounding the team now, best bet is to draft and keep Flagg.

[kanofwindHK]

I will not trade Flagg for Giannis..........What I can do the most is AD + 2029 & 2031 first round picks

[41Dirk41]

I will not trade Flagg for Giannis..........What I can do the most is AD + 2029 & 2031 first round picks

With Luka I would have agreed to trade Flagg for Giannis but with AD is completely different, we need Flagg for build a contender.

I will trade AD for something good and young, even with less value... Meanwhile our window is closed.

[HMFFL]

I will not trade Flagg for Giannis..........What I can do the most is AD + 2029 & 2031 first round picks

With Luka I would have agreed to trade Flagg for Giannis but with AD is completely different, we need Flagg for build a contender.

I will trade AD for something good and young, even with less value... Meanwhile our window is closed.

Be prepared for a rough season to come. After next season, I expect Nico to get his wish of Kyrie, AD, and Flagg together. If Flagg is anything like he's hyped to be, we could be something special.

I just want to be optimistic about Flagg since the AD and Kyrie playing together is Nico's plan.

[41Dirk41]

I will not trade Flagg for Giannis..........What I can do the most is AD + 2029 & 2031 first round picks

With Luka I would have agreed to trade Flagg for Giannis but with AD is completely different, we need Flagg for build a contender.

I will trade AD for something good and young, even with less value... Meanwhile our window is closed.

Be prepared for a rough season to come. After next season, I expect Nico to get his wish of Kyrie, AD, and Flagg together. If Flagg is anything like he's hyped to be, we could be something special.

I just want to be optimistic about Flagg since the AD and Kyrie playing together is Nico's plan.

Nico can't survive to another meh season, "after next season" is too far for him... Dumont will not give him so much time after what happened this season. The pressure on them is insane.