Pre Season Game Thread - Game 2 Saturday Vs Hornets Oct 11th 20:30 EST

[HMFFL]

Lively/PJ/Flagg frontcourt dominated.

The three are going to be exciting to watch this season. Go Mavs

[HMFFL]

We had 64 points in the paint. I won't expect this to be normal since we only made 10 3-pointers at 37%.

Last season, we averaged 50.7 points in the paint, and we ranked 10th in the league. Last season, Denver led the league with 56.5.

[Bob8]

Imagine citing plus/minus in a preseason game lmfao

Flagg vision and passing looked even better than advertised, I'm really excited about this kid.

I won't draw any conclusions from friendly games but team seemed way better and comfortable with just 1 big man on the floor and Flagg/PJ at the forward spots.

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

[Mavrelous]

Imagine citing plus/minus in a preseason game lmfao

Flagg vision and passing looked even better than advertised, I'm really excited about this kid.

I won't draw any conclusions from friendly games but team seemed way better and comfortable with just 1 big man on the floor and Flagg/PJ at the forward spots.

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

They went on a 16-0 run and erased the deficit, they did dominate, even if it's backups...
They also looked good on both ends.

[Bob8]

Imagine citing plus/minus in a preseason game lmfao

Flagg vision and passing looked even better than advertised, I'm really excited about this kid.

I won't draw any conclusions from friendly games but team seemed way better and comfortable with just 1 big man on the floor and Flagg/PJ at the forward spots.

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

They went on a 16-0 run and erased the deficit, they did dominate, even if it's backups...
They also looked good on both ends.

Then we should say that Hornets starters totally dominated Mavs starters, which is pretty worrying. Lively/PJ/Flagg dominating Hornets scrubs is to be expected.

Mavs are having top bench this year, problem is that their starting 5 might be one of the worst in the league, not because they're bad players as individuals but because they don't fit together.

[Mavrelous]

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

They went on a 16-0 run and erased the deficit, they did dominate, even if it's backups...
They also looked good on both ends.

Then we should say that Hornets starters totally dominated Mavs starters, which is pretty worrying. Lively/PJ/Flagg dominating Hornets scrubs is to be expected.

Mavs are having top bench this year, problem is that their starting 5 might be one of the worst in the league, not because they're bad players as individuals but because they don't fit together.

Yes, it was a terrible defesnive game by AD and Klay, but I'm trying to focus on the positive.

[Bob8]

They went on a 16-0 run and erased the deficit, they did dominate, even if it's backups...
They also looked good on both ends.

Then we should say that Hornets starters totally dominated Mavs starters, which is pretty worrying. Lively/PJ/Flagg dominating Hornets scrubs is to be expected.

Mavs are having top bench this year, problem is that their starting 5 might be one of the worst in the league, not because they're bad players as individuals but because they don't fit together.

Yes, it was a terrible defesnive game by AD and Klay, but I'm trying to focus on the positive.

Not only defensive game, Mavs had disastrous offensive game against their starters too. Net rtg of their starters was between +30 and + 51.

It's preseason so results doesn't matter much, but starters being unable to play against team like Hornets is for sure not a good sign, especially knowing that problems are exactly what we expected to be. I'm hoping that coaching staff is not focusing on positives.

[ACMFFL]

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

Dude, watch games instead of just looking at boxscore.

Following your metric I guess you were concerned about the starters even 2 years ago too when Luka and Kyrie were respectively -6.7 and -5.0 in 3 preseason games played lmfao

[Bob8]

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

Dude, watch games instead of just looking at boxscore.

Following your metric I guess you were concerned about the starters even 2 years ago too when Luka and Kyrie were respectively -6.7 and -5.0 in 3 preseason games played lmfao

You might looked up, why I even brought those numbers.

I brought them just because someone was talking how our front court dominated the game.

[ACMFFL]

If someone is saying that front court dominated and other team's starting rookie C has double double with + 24 than something is not right. The worse Hornets starter + 16. But yes, they dominated Hornets bench.

It's obvious that big lineup won't work against good teams, but I'm sure Kidd and Nico will die trying.

Dude, watch games instead of just looking at boxscore.

Following your metric I guess you were concerned about the starters even 2 years ago too when Luka and Kyrie were respectively -6.7 and -5.0 in 3 preseason games played lmfao

You might looked up, why I even brought those numbers.

I brought them just because someone was talking how our front court dominated the game.

I guess you did the same 2 years ago even if the numbers weren't looking exactly good, right?

Anyway Lively and especially Flagg looked pretty good, we all know that competition wasn't that good, but your exercise of scrutinize +/- in a friendly game is kinda pointless in my opinion.

[Bob8]

Dude, watch games instead of just looking at boxscore.

Following your metric I guess you were concerned about the starters even 2 years ago too when Luka and Kyrie were respectively -6.7 and -5.0 in 3 preseason games played lmfao

You might looked up, why I even brought those numbers.

I brought them just because someone was talking how our front court dominated the game.

I guess you did the same 2 years ago even if the numbers weren't looking exactly good, right?

Ok, i give up. Our front court dominated the game.

A little betting advice. Putting some money on being one of the worst 3-pts shooting team in the league and allowing the most 3s might bring gold. I hope you understand what that would have on standings implication?

[ACMFFL]

You might looked up, why I even brought those numbers.

I brought them just because someone was talking how our front court dominated the game.

I guess you did the same 2 years ago even if the numbers weren't looking exactly good, right?

Ok, i give up. Our front court dominated the game.

A little betting advice. Putting some money on being one of the worst 3-pts shooting team in the league and allowing the most 3s might bring gold. I hope you understand what that would have on standings implication?

Nope, Flagg and Lively are scrubs, I guess you're happy now

The world is falling after a single preseason loss

[Bob8]

I guess you did the same 2 years ago even if the numbers weren't looking exactly good, right?

Ok, i give up. Our front court dominated the game.

A little betting advice. Putting some money on being one of the worst 3-pts shooting team in the league and allowing the most 3s might bring gold. I hope you understand what that would have on standings implication?

Nope, Flagg and Lively are scrubs, I guess you're happy now

No, they aren't, but starting 5 is constructed like we're still in 2000s.

But hey, maybe non shooters will suddenly start to shoot and bigs defend 3-pts line with an ease.

[ACMFFL]

Ok, i give up. Our front court dominated the game.

A little betting advice. Putting some money on being one of the worst 3-pts shooting team in the league and allowing the most 3s might bring gold. I hope you understand what that would have on standings implication?

Nope, Flagg and Lively are scrubs, I guess you're happy now

No, they aren't, but starting 5 is constructed like we're still in 2000s.

That's a more legit observation and critique, I agree that starting 5 isn't well constructed at all, even in these meaningless friendly games team looked better with Flagg at the 4 and only one big man on the floor.
POA defender is what concernes me the most, you can still get away with subpar 3pt shooting but we need someone way better than Max/Caleb to throw at opponent's best handlers, otherwise defense will collapse no matter how good rim protection is.

[Darren]

I think AD for LBJ trade may actually be made at some point this season. To me, Cooper Flagg's playmaking is a tier ahead of AD. AD struggles to play well with Flagg while PJ plays exceptional.

[Bob8]

I think AD for LBJ trade may actually be made at some point this season. To me, Cooper Flagg's playmaking is a tier ahead of AD. AD struggles to play well with Flagg while PJ plays exceptional.

That would be something, basically trading 26 years old player for 41 years old player.

[Maverick41]

I liked what I saw from Flagg again. He made a few rookie mistakes but the potential is certainly there. The ability to stop on a dime and pull up or the move he did on Lamelo is something I did not expect to have in his bag so early. It's very exciting.

PJ has looked very good in the 1st 2 preseason games. His shot is more fluid and he's moving really well on both ends. I agree with Mavrelous that the PJ/Flagg/Lively combo looked really good together. They were flying everywhere, the D was great and offensively it worked more when the paint wasn't packed.

Lively was a menace defensively but problem is his boxing out ability. The rookie in CHA had his way with him on the boards.

AD has been a disappointment so far. He looks lazy and his 3 pt closeout D has been bad. Offensively, he's ball stopped a lot and he's getting in way of our slashers, especially when he's at the 4. One of the biggest takeaways I've seen so far besides Flagg is that Kidd is playing AD exclusively at the 4. He's gone so far to play Powell a lot, even with AD. It's a good time to test this since it's the preseason but I hope its not indicative of how he will play his rotations in the RS. This version of AD is just not a full time 4.

[Michaellam1987]

Just hope that AD is playing lazy because it is only the pre-season game.

[Darren]

Flagg raised a lot of eyebrows. I wonder how things look like playing against top-tier playoff MVP candidates and league-reputated defenders. I also want to see DLive adopts Wemby and Chet's offensive skills upcoming season. If DLive can shoot like Dirk from long range. This Mavs team is unguardable. PJ is playing great as well. Let's get AD some rest and see how PJ works alongside Flagg as well. I am not very impressed by DoLo. But Flagg plays like a legitimate PG. What if Flagg is being the sole playmaker on the floor. Can Flagg overcome the challenge ? These scenarios are worth exploring..

[41Dirk41]

I think AD for LBJ trade may actually be made at some point this season. To me, Cooper Flagg's playmaking is a tier ahead of AD. AD struggles to play well with Flagg while PJ plays exceptional.

I'm start to think that Darren is a Fakers troll