RS 25/26 - Mavs vs Spurs (Wednesday Oct 22, 7:30 EST)

[Bob8]

No idea why Kidd is playing Flagg at the 1 when he is clearly way more comfy off ball. Let him find his stride playing off ball and get comfortable.

As soon as we took him off the ball he started scoring.

Let someone else run the point, we need Flagg to score and play Defense. Definitely don’t need him playmaking for others. That will come naturally.

Also Wemby has officially arrived. No idea what anyone is supposed to do if this is how he’s coming this year.

We don't need Flagg to do anything, he's a rookie, 13 shots for 10 points shows that. Expectations are just totally unrealistic for him.

The most laughable thing about this Mavs is D. So called defensive specialists can't defend anything.

I mean moreso he needs to do what he’s known to do. Which is solid defense and score. Not playing a position he has no business playing.

Our offense is already horrid, no idea why Kidd wanted to start the season like this.

I agree on the defense thing as well lol. Yes AD is a defender. But DLive is as well but always in foul trouble and I would like to know who else on this team is considered a defender. Naji and PJ defend physically which helps ofcourse but I would not call them defenders. Cooper Flagg definitely has potential. Grabs defensive boards and seem to be in the right place at the right time when the other team turnovers. I actually expect good things from his once his confidence increases.

I doubt that Flagg will ever be great scorer, his strength should be his overall play. Great defender and solid scorer. Scoring shouldn't be expected from him in his rookie year. And he should play in his right position, which most likely is a Pf. Mavs should trade AD, get some capital back and start building team around Flagg. They won't win anything with this roster anyway.

Kidd is playing like this, because they want to prove big lineup can work and how they don't miss Luka. Nico probably nonstop in his ears.

They built 5 years a team around Luka and traded him away in the moment they got the proper team. And to **** up things totally they got absolutely the worst possible star for this team back. Even 41 years old LeBron would have been better.

[41Dirk41]

Welcome to the Nico vision.

Fire that moron ASAP please.

[Teffer10]

This team looks like a football team without a quarterback.
Absence of leadership will win very few games.

[Forbes]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

[41Dirk41]

Start to put 5 players in their best position can help.

Harrison can't survive to another 40/10/10 season by Doncic and a complete disaster Mavs start (maybe we can win with bad teams)

[41Dirk41]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

It's what everybody here said in those months... No ballhandling, no spacing, no shooting and street clothes force 3 players in the lineup to play out of position.

Unfortunately Harrison can not eat his crow and we will continue to play like that until he will be fired.

[Bob8]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

Problem is that Kyrie himself is not a true Pg either, he will bring more scoring, but not much more creation for others. And don't forget players after injury like his play normally only a season after they return.

[Bob8]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

It's what everybody here said in those months... No ballhandling, no spacing, no shooting and street clothes force 3 players in the lineup to play out of position.

Unfortunately Harrison can not eat his crow and we will continue to play like that until he will be fired.

Not everyone, there were a few big lineup believers.

[41Dirk41]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

It's what everybody here said in those months... No ballhandling, no spacing, no shooting and street clothes force 3 players in the lineup to play out of position.

Unfortunately Harrison can not eat his crow and we will continue to play like that until he will be fired.

Not everyone, there were a few big lineup believers.

Yes... Luka haters or someone who doesn't know nothing about basketball.
This is not a Fantasy league

Too much pressure on Coop, he is just a rookie... I hope this situation will not hurt him too much.

Anyway i don't Remember a 30 point loss in last 5 years. It's terrible, more than i expected.

[Bob8]

Scary thing about Spurs is that their last 3 first round picks scored 77 points all 3 being incredibly efficient.

[Teffer10]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

I read a suggestion by someone on this deal:

Ivey/LeVert/Harris/2027 1st/2029 1st
for
AD

Nico should do that deal in a heartbeat if it is ever offered.

[Bob8]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

I read a suggestion by someone on this deal:

Ivey/LeVert/Harris/2027 1st/2029 1st
for
AD

Nico should do that deal in a heartbeat if it is ever offered.

The only way for Mavs trading AD is first firing Nico.

AD is valuable only for contenders, he won't bring back as much as people believe.

[Teffer10]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

I read a suggestion by someone on this deal:

Ivey/LeVert/Harris/2027 1st/2029 1st
for
AD

Nico should do that deal in a heartbeat if it is ever offered.

The only way for Mavs trading AD is first firing Nico.

Give it a few weeks.
Do you really see this team winning many games after that pathetic performance?

[Bob8]

I read a suggestion by someone on this deal:

Ivey/LeVert/Harris/2027 1st/2029 1st
for
AD

Nico should do that deal in a heartbeat if it is ever offered.

The only way for Mavs trading AD is first firing Nico.

Give it a few weeks.
Do you really see this team winning many games after that pathetic performance?

No, I was sure even before this game they won't. But Nico just can't trade AD after he traded Luka for him. The only hope is they loosing that much that Nico is fired, but I doubt that owners really care much. Everything Nico and Mavs organisation said after trading Luka makes trading AD virtually impossible.

[Teffer10]

I see Flagg eventually averaging in that 20-25 range with the typical 8rbs 4-5 Assists with good impact on defense.

Now I agree that we should be getting rid of AD as we won’t be winning with his team currently constructed and it’s better to get that value out of AD now than later. However, I don’t see it happening.

I don’t know what Nico and Kidd think, we barely have 3 point shooters, we cannot win anything without that In today’s league.

I’ll be patiently watching Flaggs development and waiting for Kyrie to come back. Looks like we’ll be playing some ugly ball until then.

It's what everybody here said in those months... No ballhandling, no spacing, no shooting and street clothes force 3 players in the lineup to play out of position.

Unfortunately Harrison can not eat his crow and we will continue to play like that until he will be fired.

Not everyone, there were a few big lineup believers.

Sad thing is, Nico had a perfect size PG to create the jumbo dream team he envisioned.
He was on the right track until he became insane.

[Bob8]

It's what everybody here said in those months... No ballhandling, no spacing, no shooting and street clothes force 3 players in the lineup to play out of position.

Unfortunately Harrison can not eat his crow and we will continue to play like that until he will be fired.

Not everyone, there were a few big lineup believers.

Sad thing is, Nico had a perfect size PG to create the jumbo dream team he envisioned.
He was on the right track until he became insane.

Exactly, people always forget that those 10 rebounds Luka brings is not by chance. Pg being top rebounder is a luxury not only because of rebounding, but because he can initiate offense immediately.

[Teffer10]

The only way for Mavs trading AD is first firing Nico.

Give it a few weeks.
Do you really see this team winning many games after that pathetic performance?

No, I was sure even before this game they won't. But Nico just can't trade AD after he traded Luka for him. The only hope is they loosing that much that Nico is fired, but I doubt that owners really care much. Everything Nico and Mavs organisation said after trading Luka, makes trading AD virtually impossible.

I can't disagree, but almost any trade of AD that would yield two 1st round picks would somewhat heal the pain of some Mavs fans considering the good fortune we had in the last draft.

[Teffer10]

Not everyone, there were a few big lineup believers.

Sad thing is, Nico had a perfect size PG to create the jumbo dream team he envisioned.
He was on the right track until he became insane.

Exactly, people always forget that those 10 rebounds Luka brings is not by chance.

I thought the team was becoming constructed similar as the 2011 team with two offensive catalysts (Dirk/JET - Luka/Kyrie) surrounded by decent depth, good size and solid defensive-oriented role players.

[41Dirk41]

We play a lot of home games at the start of RS, i can't believe we will under .500 after this stretch of games.
That's another Silver gift for the trade probably.

Nobody will trade good assets for street clothes, that's sure.

Like i said, put 5 players in their spot it's a start.
We are no way a contender like few of us said multiple times but not even a lottery team.

PG (Nembhard, DLo, B.Will)-Klay-Flagg-PJ-street clothes is the starting lineup. Easy.
No stupid experiments because it's not difficult go 2-12 in a couple of months.

I don't care if they extended Gaff big money. He has no room here.
I don't care if they want Lively to be starting big. Too limited and injury prone, without Luka he is just a guy.

The will not fire Harrison easily but the fans have to fight for it.

I would like to read Mr. B from Dallas bar sports, is it all ok? Are everybody still happy,right?

And i miss the "sky is falling" guy

[Bob8]

Sad thing is, Nico had a perfect size PG to create the jumbo dream team he envisioned.
He was on the right track until he became insane.

Exactly, people always forget that those 10 rebounds Luka brings is not by chance.

I thought the team was becoming constructed similar as the 2011 team with two offensive catalysts (Dirk/JET - Luka/Kyrie) surrounded by decent depth, good size and solid defensive-oriented role players.

And it worked, they were in the Finals. And after the season they brought some good offensive players, Grimes/Naji/Klay because it was obvious they needed more offense and then February happened... watching Finals between Okc and Pacers was painful knowing Mavs with Luka and not injured Kyrie could easily won against both. What Nico did is unforgivable from every aspect.