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studcrackers wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
come on man you're to smart and ive seen u post here for to long to actually think derrck rose is attainable
That lineup can't buy a shot.Darren wrote:I can see Josh Howard for Stephen Jackson and #14 goes down with Rick as the new head coach. And I can see JET for Battier for the same reason. Stack for backup 1/2 or pick.
We opt to compete for a ring instead of rebuilding. Kidd and Dirk is the centerpiece of the puzzle.
C - Damp - Gana(?) / #14
PF - Dirk - Bass / Najera(?)
SF - Battier - DG / #51
SG - SJax - AW(?) / EJ
PG - Kidd - Lue(?) / JJB(?)
Pointguard01 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
If we rebuild and trade Dirk, he is. That's what Im refering to, though in my mind I know that Cuban is likely not gonna except that.
Your right, if we keep Dirk, he is not.
Jugs wrote: I saw two buttholes
Rand10 wrote:The Spurs system fits their team. It doesn't fit Dallas. We need to open it up and run now that we have Kidd, but that shouldn't mean we sacrifice our defense like the warriors and suns.
bernal100 wrote:RC + Kidd = Water & Oil,,,it won't mix. RC is the worst coach for Kidd's style. And Kidd is the worst PG for RC. All of you saying that RC will let Kidd run it his way, a up & down pace are lost. No coach does a complete 180 from their own coaching philosophy. No way that will happen.
And bottom line, no one wants the fodder you guys want to trade to get better players here. No one wants Terry or Damp and his deal. No one will take " Jay ",,a.k.a., Josh Howard. He's nick-name is
" Jay ", from jay & silent Bob
Since he smokes weed on the same level as Jay. And is just as smart. No one wants a Pothead.
Bottom line, your team is old. Has no money, and no assets to deal. And now you have the worst coach for your players style.
Too bad for you guys.
bernal100 wrote: Bottom line, your team is old. Has no money, and no assets to deal. And now you have the worst coach for your players style.
Too bad for you guys.
SaintofKillers wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
What kind of offense does Carlisle run? I personally don't care if he's a control freak or if we average below 90 -- all I'm asking for is an offensive set because we didn't have one under Avery. It was all give the ball to Dirk/Howard/Stack on the corner for a clear out; it was sickening to watch.
Dallas Mavericks expected to hire Carlisle on Friday
03:19 PM CDT on Wednesday, May 7, 2008
By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News
esefko@dallasnews.com
The agent for Rick Carlisle says an agreement for Carlisle to become the new Dallas Mavericks coach should be completed Thursday and he is expected to be announced as the franchise's ninth head coach on Friday.
"We're headed for a successful landing, I believe, in the next day or so," agent Warren LeGarie said Wednesday.
Carlisle, 48, was the only candidate to interview for the position. The Mavericks were drawn to his passion for defense, which is part of the foundation left over from the Avery Johnson era that management did not want to lose.
Carlisle would be starting his third NBA coaching job, having led Detroit for two seasons and Indiana for four.
The contract is believed to be for four years. Carlisle had said on Tuesday that he was on the verge of agreeing with the Mavericks.
"We're still talking," Carlisle said. "We're moving in a good direction. Things are moving along."
In joining the Mavericks, Carlisle will inherit a team that has been to the playoffs eight consecutive seasons but is coming off back-to-back first-round knockouts. He, owner Mark Cuban and president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson have plenty of holes to fill on a roster that has only eight players under contract for next season (Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd, Josh Howard, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Erick Dampier, Eddie Jones and Brandon Bass).
Carlisle amassed a 281-211 record and reached the conference finals twice during his six seasons with Detroit and Indiana. His teams were known for their hard-nosed style and he has a history as a strong motivator. He has worked this season for ESPN.
It remains to be seen who, if anybody, from the Mavericks' staff of assistant coaches Carlisle might have interest in keeping, assuming he is hired. It is likely Johnson, who interviewed with the New York Knicks on Monday, would take some of the Mavericks' staff with him should he get another head coaching job.
Dallas Mavericks boxing themselves in with Carlisle
09:41 PM CDT on Tuesday, May 6, 2008
My first inclination is to say that Rick Carlisle bores me, and I hope the Mavericks go another direction in their search for a head coach.
But I hesitate to give in to that sentiment for two reasons.
One, our David Moore, NBA expert and man of many sweaters, was nearly breathless in his Monday column, imploring the Mavericks to latch onto Carlisle before some other franchise lures him away. I haven't seen that kind of excitement from Moore since we stumbled onto a Scottsdale, Ariz., wine bar with leather sofas.
Two, there is a chance that Carlisle will remember the 15-second conversation we had in the hallways of ESPN's massive Bristol, Conn., compound last summer. This could create a certain bond that other local media types won't be able to share.
Anything that works in my favor, I consider a good thing.
(In honor of Mr. Moore's work, I am giving the "I" key a good workout today).
I do understand the theory that there just aren't a lot of great candidates out there and that if you can find a good one, grab him.
And there's nothing wrong with Carlisle's resume.
He had back-to-back 50-win seasons in Detroit and guided the Pistons to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2003 before getting dumped by general manager Joe Dumars when Larry Brown made himself available.
At Indiana, he immediately coaxed a 61-win season out of the Pacers and made another trip to the Eastern Finals before that team started to unravel in the wake of the Ron Artest brawl and all of the Pacers' other off-the-court shenanigans.
So Carlisle isn't a bad choice by any means.
Besides, I don't know exactly what the proper expectations should be for the Mavericks' next head coach.
As Dirk Nowitzki moves into his 30s and Jason Kidd moves into his late 30s and Josh Howard moves farther away from being a Western Conference All-Star and the team sits and watches while its competitors add good young players in the first round of the June draft. ... Yeah, I don't know where this thing is headed, but it's not pretty.
Still, I don't think you just give up, say the team isn't going to win and what's the difference who you get as coach?
I thought one of the good things about Mark Cuban as an owner would be that he would forever think outside the box. Carlisle is not an outside-the-box pick. He's a logical retread hire.
My outside-the-box pick is Michael Cooper.
The former member of the Los Angeles Lakers' "Showtime" era won five championships as a player and was a five-time All-NBA first-team defense selection. He knows something about how to play at the end of the floor where the Mavericks are most challenged.
He has been a successful coach in the WNBA with the Los Angeles Sparks, which means he knows something about ... well, layup drills and set shots, I guess, but it also means he knows how to coach fundamentals.
(Readers can feel free to insert a remark here about how coaching in the WNBA is a perfect training ground for coaching the Mavericks. I won't stoop that low.)
Cooper had a very brief run as interim coach of the Denver Nuggets before that franchise chose to give up on defense and hired George Karl.
I don't know if the next coach is just a two- to three-year transitional guy presiding over a club that has to dig itself out of salary cap jail. But I don't think that has to be the case.
I would rather see Cooper get his first real chance as an NBA coach than see Carlisle get his third.
Getting people excited about the Mavericks after two first-round exits won't be easy. Cooper at least would represent something new and different. And having a genuine link to great defensive play and NBA championships can't be a bad thing.
