Mavs 2016 Offseason Discussion

[Darren]

No, I think Anderson will start. And we'll find a combo guard playmakers at backup 1/2. And then pick up some nba hopeful to backup 1/2, 2/3 and 3/4. So we'll look for athletic freaks with solid physical tools without IQ issue. They can always learn a skills or 2 to contribute in certain ways. Nowadays, rookie contract is gold. We'd better capitalize them. However, from what I saw in game 1, there's rare 'nba hopeful' with huge potential. Marquis Teague can make plays. But he can't absorb contact and be effective. Vander Blue's solid playmaking skills. But can he compete against real nba players physically? Can he muscle up a little without losing explosiveness? Brandan Ashley has matured a lot. But it seems to me that he doesn't have much upside. A skilled stretch 4 with range up to 18 feet.

[Baz]

He has struggled with Phoenix, is on a bad contract and they'll want to get rid of him. Is it time to bring back THE MAN himself... the greatest Mavericks center ever... the shoe blocker... Tyson Chandler?

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My only concern would be if Tyson even wants to come back. He's been thrown to the curb twice by Cuban, how would he feel coming back AGAIN? Or would he just be thrilled to be back home in a city where he is adored?

I say bring him back, we won't need to give away too much. + we need a solid center. Do you want to see Tyson back in a Mavs uniform?

[fuller4379]

Powell 4 years 37 million.
Not worth it for a project that has a very low upside.

[Mr B]

What's the Current roster look like now?


Is it?

Mejiri / Hammonds
**** (Dirk) / Powell
****** / Anderson
Mathews /
Williams /

C - Mejri/Hammonds
PF - Dirk/ Powell
SF - Barnes/Anderson
SG - Matthews/Harris
PG - DWill/Barea

[fuller4379]

Donaldson is the best Mavs center ever.

[Hadley]

I say bring him back, we won't need to give away too much. + we need a solid center. Do you want to see Tyson back in a Mavs uniform?

Get fücking over it. Tyson peaked like 4 Years ago and is washed up now. I'd rather take Bogut on a 1 Year Contract.

[arkuo]

All this one year deals year in and year out. something tells me Cuban is just on the fence waiting for the superfriends reunion. A time when Lebron, Melo, Wade and CP3 play together. We'd actually be one of the few teams who can accommodate all 4 LOL

[ejs1997]

I hate to say it, but I wish Dirk was turning 40 this season and it was his last. Mavs come first and he comes second. I just cant take anymore of these Kaman, Zaza, Mayo, and all the other signings just to hold on to a 1st rd exit. I get they don't want to tank but I much rather have hope they that can pull it together with a rebuild than this crap. (Jazz and Wolves are looking pretty good right now aren't they?)

I live in Detroit and watched the Pistons hang on to guys like Prince,Hamilton, and Billups too long grabbing for straws just like Dallas is. Then try to put butts in the seats and avoid tanking by getting Iverson, Josh Smith and Ben Gordon. NONE of that worked and the Pistons were a mess for about 8 years. Are the Pistons going to win a title next year...NO but they drafted Drummond who is a very good player who can get ALOT better and they put pieces in place to have a future.

I like the Harrison Barnes move because its youth with potential. Dwill and now maybe Bogut pardon me while I barf (please get a pick out of the deal even if its the last pick in the 1st rd).

[Texas Chuck]

Looks like Bogut to Dallas is just about done. Everyone has it.

[arkuo]

Bogut to Dallas is done per Marc Stein.

Didn't say for what though. A pick or a trade exception.

Good deal IMO. Bogut is an expiring contract. good pick up.

[Mr B]

Bogut to Dallas is done per Marc Stein.

Didn't say for what though. A pick or a trade exception.

Good deal IMO. Bogut is an expiring contract. good pick up.

Both Bogut and DWill's contract now become trade assets, both expiring deals.

[Darren]

Are we interested in a Dion Waiters for Wes Matthews trade? We may need to part with either backup PG or McGee and Evans to match the salary. At 24, Dion Waiters are claimed by RC with star potenial. And we know the Mavs want to get younger. We'll miss Matthews' toughness and defense. Do you think we should contact them now? The OKC has a trouble to match as Oladipo will expire next summer. They may lose Oladipo if they match Waiters' offer. To lose him, they get nothing. They are now in a dilemma stage. What do you think?

[Pan Jia Yuan]

C - Bogut/Mejri
PF - Dirk/ Powell
SF - Barnes/Anderson
SG - Matthews/Harris
PG - DWill/Barea

that could be a good team, most of them already have chemistry, bogut is a perfect player for carlisle, and barnes was a starter on the best team in history. it's all abouth health - i think there are way too many question marks regarding injuries.

[Darren]

If the offseason ended today, we'll likely end up with:

C - Andrew Bogut / Salah Merji / AJ Hammons / JaVale McGee
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell / Jeremy Evans
SF - Harrison Barnes / Justin Anderson
SG - Wes Matthews / Devin Harris / Venda Blue
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Marquis Teague

I hope we won't waste a spot for Evans and find McGee a new home to clear the long jam at C.

[arkuo]

Interesting. With these moves, I expect Cuban to make a hard run at Giannis Antetokounmpo and Rudy Gobert next summer to replace Bogut. Giannis will be Dirk's successor. Called it first.

That's a Donnie move right there

[Darren]

Interesting. With these moves, I expect Cuban to make a hard run at Giannis Antetokounmpo and Rudy Gobert next summer to replace Bogut. Giannis will be Dirk's successor. Called it first.

That's a Donnie move right there

Please think carefully, I don't want to be the Bucks. Gobert's a good shotblocker. But it's his only skillsets. He's restricted. Do you think Utah will let him go? Giannis can play 6-9 PG. I am okay with him. But he's restricted as well. If you were the Bucks, you'll retain him at all cost.

Technically, we can't sign two max players. We only have Bogut, DWill and Harris off the book. Not nearly enough. With the new cap inflation, we may end up with nothing. I'd rather sign them to cap friendly contract and build a team with trades and operates over the cap. Unless we trade Matthews and Barea for expiring and draft picks, I don't see this happening. Even if we can, please don't sign two offensive liability. One is alright. I'd rather re-sign Bogut than taking on Gobert. He seems to be purely long arms. He can only block shots. Nothing else. We'd better do our homework on which PG we're going to target next summer. And then send Dirk to an equivalent amount to keep his cap hold and at the same time being able to give the highest bidding price for him as the final piece. And then, we go over the cap to re-sign Dirk and Bogut. Unless we hold a TO for Powell next offseason, we can't go for a big fish. Let alone two. For example, we can come agree to term with Bogut and Dirk once the Mavs sign a new starting PG; and they agree to term with DWill with MLE. So we have Dirk's new contract + Devin Harris's (TO) + DWill's 10M contract to land an all-rounded PG - minus those new contract, though. We might think of the PG we're targeting at. And then, snap him like a shark next offseason. We simply need him to know we've agreed to term with Bogut, Dirk and DWill. Once he signed, the rest will take care of themselves. So what we

C - Andrew Bogut (cap hold) / Salah Merji (cap hold) / AJ Hammons
PF - Dirk Nowitzki (cap hold) / Dwight Powell / 1st round pick (next season)
SF - Harrison Barnes / Justin Anderson / undrafted rookie or BAE (this season)
SG - Wes Matthews / Jose Barea / Vendar Blue (undrafted rookie this season)
PG - All-star PG (max) / Deron Williams (renounce but re-signed with MLE) / Marquis Teague (undrafted rookie this season)

If we do it like that, how much we pay Dirk this summer may make a huge difference. As we have to count his cap hold. We'd better calculate it quickly. Who we're going to target at what cost? And do we need to trade JJ or Matthews by deadline? Don't get me wrong. I know Bogut would be 32 next summer. However, skilled and athletic center is difficult to come by. And under the new cap, you can't have 5 super young stars as starter for long. That's being said, I am content with 2 older players as starters.

The most logical target is indeed Westbrook if he can forgive Mark Cuban's words previously. Bogut-Dirk-Barnes-Matthews-Westbrook with a depth bench is indeed a super team in the making. All other PGs (Steph Curry, Chris Paul) will stay home. No quality center is unrestricted except Andrew Bogut. That's the plan we can work out early. With DWill agreeing to a 1-year contract. I expect him to be ok as backup PG and let us pursuit an all-star caliber PG.

First round draft choice:
PF/C 7-2 Jonathan Jeanne
SF/PF 6-10 Bennie Boatwright
SF/PF 6-9 Tyler Lydon
SG 6-3 Malik Monk
PG 6-5 Kobi Simmons
PG 6-3 Frank Jackson

Therefore, next summer is Westbrook or no big fish at all. It's that simple. Either way, we should agree to term with Bogut but sign him after we've finished all signing. He's our no.1 priority.

If we have no confident in landing Westbrook, then we've to lock up Andrew Bogut early. He's the only unrestricted quality center. So you know how dangerous it is. And re-sign key players over the cap. Under the new cap, you won't get any RFA 3-4 years from now. So forget about the rest of them.

[Captain_Obvious]

How much money is left? If we renounce Zaza of course.

[dirkules_41]

How much money is left? If we renounce Zaza of course.

Well that task just got taken off our shoulers haha

[fuller4379]

Zaza is heading to GS for $2.9 million. Was hoping to get him for a backup. I guess we basically "traded" Bogut for Zaza.

[Darren]

It doesn't matter. Hopefully, he finds it enjoyable being there.