2020 Offseason Strategy Thread

[gomavs]

I'd like for us to pursue Justin Holiday in free agency. He played for Indiana this season. He managed to get his 3-point % up just above 40%.
He has been a journeyman and at 30 yrs old I would think he would hope for a 2-3yr deal with a team.

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I agree. He is an affordable 3&D player.

[JJP]

I like Holiday as well, but I'm not at all certain the Mavs like him well enough to offer him a multi-year deal. The more likely scenario is to overpay him with the MLE for a one-year deal.

[jpengland]

I like Holiday as well, but I'm not at all certain the Mavs like him well enough to offer him a multi-year deal. The more likely scenario is to overpay him with the MLE for a one-year deal.

Holiday will take security. He will want a 3 year deal.

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Knicks fan here just trying to see how Mavs fans feel about this. I would assume this is a good hire considering hes coming from a competent organization. Anybody have any details about him. Ive never heard of the guy.

[JJP]

I like Holiday as well, but I'm not at all certain the Mavs like him well enough to offer him a multi-year deal. The more likely scenario is to overpay him with the MLE for a one-year deal.

Holiday will take security. He will want a 3 year deal.

A lot of 2020 free agents will want long-term deals. Not all will get long-term deals since the so few teams have cap money available - and several teams have MLE's.

This season is largely musical chairs. I will say though that I expect Holiday to sign elsewhere for a longer deal. He will be in demand.

[Mr B]

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Knicks fan here just trying to see how Mavs fans feel about this. I would assume this is a good hire considering hes coming from a competent organization. Anybody have any details about him. Ive never heard of the guy.

Honestly I’ve never heard of him. The Mavs do have a good scouting department though.


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Twitter: Rudy Gobert (Utah Jazz) started following owner Mark Cuban.

 

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[arkuo]

I expect the Mavs to chase trades now. Keeps the cap space open for 2021. Victor Oladipo or Aaron Gordon both make sense for how the team is built. They would need to add picks to make it work and frankly #18 and #31 are both workable.

[JD45]

Lets burn some of Cuban's cash.

What if the Mavs resigned Courtney Lee to a 2 year, $70 mil non-guaranteed contract?

Lee becomes the most overpaid player in the NBA for 2020-2021. But next offseason the Mavs can use Lee to trade for any player or potential free agent sign and trade deal. His new team can just release him for nothing. The Mavs can send along a pick or some cash to make a team want to go that route vs losing a free agent for nothing. And it also allows the Mavs to resign THJ using Bird rights. The Mavs still would have the ability to cut Lee and let THJ go if they had to have actual cap room.

Its an incredible investment of a huge amount of money. But its not mine.

[HMFFL]

I expect the Mavs to chase trades now. Keeps the cap space open for 2021. Victor Oladipo or Aaron Gordon both make sense for how the team is built. They would need to add picks to make it work and frankly #18 and #31 are both workable.

I will be content with one or the other. Victor Oladipo will be exirping and Gordon has two years left.

Gordon:
2020-21: $18,136,364
2021-22: $16,409,091

However, reports suggest that Oladipo is seeking a max extension this off-sesson, so I doubt that interest us. Indiana and him failed at extensions before and I believe Indy offered just over 80m. He realizes Indy won't sign him to that, so he's pushing himself out.
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Report:

An unnamed NBA executive said that Victor Oladipo is "looking for a max deal" this offseason, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report.

It was previously reported that Oladipo is "looking to move on" from the Pacers, after both sides failed to agree on an extension last summer. The Knicks may have interest in Oladipo, but commanding a max salary from any team may be difficult for multiple reasons. Among them are the facts that team revenues plunged in 2019-20, and Oladipo has played a combined 55 games over the past two seasons. He averaged 14.5 points on 39.4% shooting this year, including 31.7% from deep, so fantasy managers should tread warily.

SOURCE: Bleacher Report

Oct 18, 2020, 8:36 PM ET




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[arkuo]

I expect the Mavs to chase trades now. Keeps the cap space open for 2021. Victor Oladipo or Aaron Gordon both make sense for how the team is built. They would need to add picks to make it work and frankly #18 and #31 are both workable.

I will be content with one or the other. Victor Oladipo will be exirping and Gordon has two years left.

Gordon:
2020-21: $18,136,364
2021-22: $16,409,091

However, reports suggest that Oladipo is seeking a max extension this off-sesson, so I doubt that interest us. Indiana and him failed at extensions before and I believe Indy offered just over 80m. He realizes Indy won't sign him to that, so he's pushing himself out.
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Report:

An unnamed NBA executive said that Victor Oladipo is "looking for a max deal" this offseason, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report.

It was previously reported that Oladipo is "looking to move on" from the Pacers, after both sides failed to agree on an extension last summer. The Knicks may have interest in Oladipo, but commanding a max salary from any team may be difficult for multiple reasons. Among them are the facts that team revenues plunged in 2019-20, and Oladipo has played a combined 55 games over the past two seasons. He averaged 14.5 points on 39.4% shooting this year, including 31.7% from deep, so fantasy managers should tread warily.

SOURCE: Bleacher Report

Oct 18, 2020, 8:36 PM ET




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Yeah.. A max deal now would probably mean Cuban hangs up the phone. Ideally he signs a new deal in 2021 when Dallas gets to utilize the max cap space for someone (say, Giannis) then they go over the cap to re-sign Oladipo.

But I guess with his injury history he prefers guaranteed money today.

[HMFFL]

I expect the Mavs to chase trades now. Keeps the cap space open for 2021. Victor Oladipo or Aaron Gordon both make sense for how the team is built. They would need to add picks to make it work and frankly #18 and #31 are both workable.

I will be content with one or the other. Victor Oladipo will be exirping and Gordon has two years left.

Gordon:
2020-21: $18,136,364
2021-22: $16,409,091

However, reports suggest that Oladipo is seeking a max extension this off-sesson, so I doubt that interest us. Indiana and him failed at extensions before and I believe Indy offered just over 80m. He realizes Indy won't sign him to that, so he's pushing himself out.
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Report:

An unnamed NBA executive said that Victor Oladipo is "looking for a max deal" this offseason, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report.

It was previously reported that Oladipo is "looking to move on" from the Pacers, after both sides failed to agree on an extension last summer. The Knicks may have interest in Oladipo, but commanding a max salary from any team may be difficult for multiple reasons. Among them are the facts that team revenues plunged in 2019-20, and Oladipo has played a combined 55 games over the past two seasons. He averaged 14.5 points on 39.4% shooting this year, including 31.7% from deep, so fantasy managers should tread warily.

SOURCE: Bleacher Report

Oct 18, 2020, 8:36 PM ET




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Yeah.. A max deal now would probably mean Cuban hangs up the phone. Ideally he signs a new deal in 2021 when Dallas gets to utilize the max cap space for someone (say, Giannis) then they go over the cap to re-sign Oladipo.

But I guess with his injury history he prefers guaranteed money today.

I agree on the guaranteed money part. That's his priority over everything at the moment and I don't blame him. Once he receives the money he can always request to be traded once it's an option.
He's forcing himself out of Indiana, which is fine, as I'm sure they're tired of his crap.

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[jpengland]

I expect the Mavs to chase trades now. Keeps the cap space open for 2021. Victor Oladipo or Aaron Gordon both make sense for how the team is built. They would need to add picks to make it work and frankly #18 and #31 are both workable.

I will be content with one or the other. Victor Oladipo will be exirping and Gordon has two years left.

Gordon:
2020-21: $18,136,364
2021-22: $16,409,091

However, reports suggest that Oladipo is seeking a max extension this off-sesson, so I doubt that interest us. Indiana and him failed at extensions before and I believe Indy offered just over 80m. He realizes Indy won't sign him to that, so he's pushing himself out.
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Report:

An unnamed NBA executive said that Victor Oladipo is "looking for a max deal" this offseason, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report.

It was previously reported that Oladipo is "looking to move on" from the Pacers, after both sides failed to agree on an extension last summer. The Knicks may have interest in Oladipo, but commanding a max salary from any team may be difficult for multiple reasons. Among them are the facts that team revenues plunged in 2019-20, and Oladipo has played a combined 55 games over the past two seasons. He averaged 14.5 points on 39.4% shooting this year, including 31.7% from deep, so fantasy managers should tread warily.

SOURCE: Bleacher Report

Oct 18, 2020, 8:36 PM ET




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Yeah.. A max deal now would probably mean Cuban hangs up the phone. Ideally he signs a new deal in 2021 when Dallas gets to utilize the max cap space for someone (say, Giannis) then they go over the cap to re-sign Oladipo.

But I guess with his injury history he prefers guaranteed money today.

Oladipo will have too big of a cap hold for yhta.

If he comes, he's either here for one year only, or he resigns and we don't sign a different max/high salary player.

[HMFFL]

Joe Harris would be a nice addition but it looks like Steve Nash has told him what he wants to hear.

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Free agent guard Joe Harris met with Brooklyn's new head coach Steve Nash this week. 

All signs are pointing to Harris and the Nets quickly coming to terms on a new deal when free agency opens later this fall. Nets GM Sean Marks called re-signing Harris his No. 1 priority, and Nash is obviously on board with that. The feeling is mutual with Harris, who said his "ideal scenario" is to return to the Nets. That might be bad news for his fantasy value though, as he would be the No. 4 or No. 5 option on a loaded offense. 

SOURCE: NY Post

Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 AM ET



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[dirkforpres]

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Also says the Mavs want to move up into the lottery. Should be an exciting offseason for us however it plays out

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How to improve this roster and challenge for a ring next season.

Team Roster
NAME POS AGE HT WT COLLEGE SALARY
J.J. Barea5 PG 36 5' 10" 180 lbs Northeastern $1,620,564
Jalen Brunson13 PG 24 6' 1" 190 lbs Villanova $1,416,852
Trey Burke32 PG 27 6' 0" 185 lbs Michigan $1,620,564
Willie Cauley-Stein33 C 27 7' 0" 240 lbs Kentucky $2,177,483
Antonius Cleveland3 SG 26 6' 5" 195 lbs Southeast Missouri State --
Seth Curry30 SG 30 6' 2" 185 lbs Duke $7,461,380
Luka Doncic77 SG 21 6' 7" 230 lbs -- $7,683,360
Dorian Finney-Smith10 SF 27 6' 7" 220 lbs Florida $4,000,000
Tim Hardaway Jr.11 SG 28 6' 5" 205 lbs Michigan $20,025,127
Justin Jackson44 SF 25 6' 7" 220 lbs North Carolina $3,280,920
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist9 SF 27 6' 6" 230 lbs Kentucky $595,122
Maxi Kleber42 PF 28 6' 10" 240 lbs -- $8,000,000
Courtney Lee1 SG 35 6' 5" 215 lbs Western Kentucky $12,759,670
Boban Marjanovic51 C 32 7' 4" 290 lbs -- $3,500,000
Kristaps Porzingis6 PF 25 7' 3" 240 lbs -- $27,285,000
Dwight Powell7 C 29 6' 10" 240 lbs Stanford $10,259,375
Josh Reaves23 SG 23 6' 4" 214 lbs Penn State --
Delon Wright55 PG 28 6' 5" 185 lbs Utah $9,473

Free agent wise: I am looking hardest at guys like this:
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3135048/jahlil-okafor
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3439/serge-ibaka
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3058254/christian-wood 3 pointer length but thin for a PF though he rebounds ok
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3423/goran-dragic Lukas buddy
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6581/jae-crowder Tough Defender
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6588/evan-fournier
If healthy enough to pass a physical Cousins just as a gamble.

PF and C is solid with 5 bigs, I say we may only need to add more if one leaves in free agency or we see a need to get more talent as insurance for KP and Powell.

If WCS leaves, ( I really hope he stays) I would maybe want to add Okafur but even if he stays I want Ibaka as insurance for KP and Powell since his game is more of an outside shooting big and he has the experience to mentor KP some. Wood is interesting but we already have Kleber and he plays a much tougher game on D though his shooting slump in the play offs was of some concern. First series and he was thrust into that role with KP being injured so I can find it in my heart to give him a bit of a pass. Boban at 32 won't be around forever and I think drafting a big makes sense with the later round talent at the 5 that I am seeing in this years draft. With 31 we could pick up anyone that falls to the 2nd round and or have our pick from a lot of 5's that I like.

If THJ opts in and we can count on his game then we may not need any more help at the 2 since Curry can come in and shoot as good as anyone in the league. Keeping that firepower makes a lot of sense to me.

At the 1 we have a ton of options already but I am concerned with Jalen being injured, though I like that he has become an 80%+ FT shooter and seems to be passing the ball well. I like his potential to improve over time but Burke came on hard in the play offs and hit the 3 at an excellent rate and Jalen only has an inch on him.

Wright needs to do something more than he has so far we have way too much tied up with him for that project to be abandoned and his game seems to be decent enough that we can get him turned around this season. JJB is likely retired as is Lee. Will Reaves get a promotion to the A team this season? Cleveland? Is he gone?

I would love to see Curry get some more consideration as a PG still becasue he is a Curry. With what we have at the 1 we could afford to trade Jalen around the trade deadline once he comes back from injury.

Jalen is the worst shooting backup option for Luka on the team the only thing he has going for him is he is the youngest option and he is somewhat hanging on against the others. How long till he starts to hit that 3 ball decent enough? Wright, Burke and Curry is able to get us a lot of three pointers and you expect it since they are all older but I think we are about to be in win now mode so keeping them may make more sense.

Still I am in the mood to develop guys more than to give up on them. Powell and Brunson need to get their games to another level soon or we may need to see what we can get for them at the TDL if we even can.

I cannot see how we could package things to trade for anyone that is of value to a win now team so I tend to lean towards keeping our picks and picking a wing OR 2 and or a big. Finding a rotation player at 18 is not impossible and we could build a younger team to challenge when the league loses its older stars to the twilight of their careers. I am looking for us to add a wing at 18 and a 4/5 at 31.

Being on the cusp of win now means we need to make careful moves but I think we might get lucky and find someone to play next to our dynamic duo if we keep 18 and use it. A rookie contract or 2 allows us to spend $$ elsewhere and improve the PF or SG when THJ becomes a free agent next season, because I bet he opts in this year.

NEXT OFF SEASON IS WHEN WE NEED TO MAKE MOVES IN FREE AGENCY. Keeping powder dry means we may need to offer 1 year deals if we take on anyone in free agency at the 4/5. Ibaka is the only one I would offer anything longer.

[JJP]

Regarding the post above, I believe the Mavs have too much salary committed to the center position at present. If you chose a big man this season, you would be disregarding your most important need - a defensive wing player.

The only big man I see from that list might be Wood if he plays the PF position, at that's only if its determined he can consistently catch-and-shoot from the perimeter. Grabbing Gallinari and a smaller defensive wing sounds like more of a reality than any less mobile center. If Powell or Boban get traded, that's another story, but at present I don't see it. Rudy Gorbet would be the only exception, but one of the other centers would need to be traded away. Gorbet is the one big man that changes everything. The team gets significantly better defensively.

Curry was tried at PG before in his last stint a few times, and he was less effective. It was reminiscent of putting Jason Terry at the PG position during Don Nelson's tenure. In my opinion, the Mavs need a new starting wing player, a defensive wing, and a rotation playmaker - all three. The may not get all three this off-season, but I believe that's what they are shooting for.

Brad Townsend of the Dallas Morning News like a sign-and-trade for Gallinari. I'm not sure how that works out, but we can throw it in the mix. I'm not sure he can be acquired any other way. so that may just be a pipe dream.

I believe they will focus on wing players. Draft night could go in any direction - up, down, or out in a trade. I believe the interest in Facundo Campazzo is real, so that may be their playmaker target after the draft is over. I'm not sure how much of the MLE he would be willing to take, so that's fuzzy - but I believe he's on the radar.

I could see the Mavs trading up in the draft, but I could also see them trading down - and out if they can find a good wing in a trade.

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Wood is too skinny for me I would like Ibaka because at his age he is going down in price not up.

He is not a long term solution but you may get lucky and find something that works in the draft. This is were you find bigs and it takes a lot of developmental work to get a big developed. You can take advantage of teams who are unable to afford a big after they have accidentally developed one but that rarely happens now.

Teams will hide bigs and keep their minutes low even when they are good enough to start and all because they do not want other teams to suspect the real level of talent they have. You need to steal the development guys before they get to be too good and start to prove themselves on another team.

Curry is behind so many others at PG that he does not have to be a starting or main bench guy at PG his PG game is strictly a minor level of minutes nothing more than a brief rest for the others in an emergency situation at most. Luka, Wright, Burke, Brunson, and even JJB coming out of retirement are ahead of him there so we have talent to keep us from going after another PG unless he is 6'5" or larger so that if we do draft one it is because he is a matchup nightmare that can play SG and play side by side with Luka so that we have 2 PG's with size.

If things happen perfectly and we find a rookie or 2 that can contribute this year then I see this being the best solution Gobert this season is not likely to happen he is a free agent next season and that is what I would prize as much as Giannis. If Utah wants to trade him he may want to stipulate who they can deal him to. Everyone will want him and if it happens this season Boston has the pieces to win that trade. There is no way Utah will keep him in the western conference. Only way we can get him is if there is a substantial fall out between him and the team and he decides to test free agency.

Your going to do Luka and KP wrong if you fail to target talent in the draft and build that way. Bringing in older guys that will not be here as long is a bad idea but Ibaka is only an idea if he is affordable and he may not be affordable. I suggested him because I see his value dropping off to the point he could possibly become a better bargain. I say we stay away from expensive players in free agency and focus on developing draft picks till next off season and if we do sign any free agents we target guys with 1 year contracts and bargain basement deals. Giannis and Gobert are the pair of guys I target that season.

[DBoys]

Lets burn some of Cuban's cash.

What if the Mavs resigned Courtney Lee to a 2 year, $70 mil non-guaranteed contract?

Lee becomes the most overpaid player in the NBA for 2020-2021. But next offseason the Mavs can use Lee to trade for any player or potential free agent sign and trade deal. His new team can just release him for nothing. The Mavs can send along a pick or some cash to make a team want to go that route vs losing a free agent for nothing. And it also allows the Mavs to resign THJ using Bird rights. The Mavs still would have the ability to cut Lee and let THJ go if they had to have actual cap room.

Its an incredible investment of a huge amount of money. But its not mine.

Pointless waste of money. Rules have changed. Besides, we don't want junk in return, and teams won't give away the high value player for nothing anyhow.

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https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/nba-draft-the-dallas-mavs-are-hosting-tyrese-halliburton-saddiq-bey-per-sources

Sadiq Bey is looking like a great wing to draft. I would be very happy if we got him to play at SF in the old Matrix role. He seems to be a PG in a SF frame with much better 3 point shot and comparable defense.