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As a Celtics fan I'm absolutely devastated for you guys. This bonehead has traded away a 1 in 50 year franchise player who hadn't even reached his prime yet. For what? a 32 year old guy who is a good player but his nickname is literally street clothes. Paired with Kyrie Irving and the corpse of Klay Thompson?
His plan is obviously have all 3 old veterans all coming off the books around the same time....but why?
So he can do his own genius rebuild and draft some guys no where good as Doncic? Sign a megastar free agent that isn't as good as Doncic?
It's simply asinine.
I just can't **** believe this moron has done this to you. You could have had literally any player you wanted outside of Joker, Shai and Giannis basically. AND picks.
I just can't believe he didn't even shop around and see what else he could get.
I mean I could almost guarantee that Brad Stevens would have given yall Tatum for Doncic. That's how freakin' good Doncic is.
AND he's given him to the Lakers-a conference rival- on a platter.
His plan is obviously have all 3 old veterans all coming off the books around the same time....but why?
So he can do his own genius rebuild and draft some guys no where good as Doncic? Sign a megastar free agent that isn't as good as Doncic?
It's simply asinine.
I just can't **** believe this moron has done this to you. You could have had literally any player you wanted outside of Joker, Shai and Giannis basically. AND picks.
I just can't believe he didn't even shop around and see what else he could get.
I mean I could almost guarantee that Brad Stevens would have given yall Tatum for Doncic. That's how freakin' good Doncic is.
AND he's given him to the Lakers-a conference rival- on a platter.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:GopherIt! wrote:This reminds me of when the Wolves traded KG for the Al Jefferson poo poo platter. KG of course went on to have 6 great years out East, won a chip, and THEN to add insult to injury, was included in a trade for a heist of picks used to grab Tatum and Brown and win another chip. Ugh! Also, KG wanted to retire a Wolf. The trade was entirely the idea of Kevin McFail to recoup lost draft picks & help his buddy Ainge. Unforgivable. The once hometown hero completely DESTROYED his legacy w Minnesotans.
Even then, KG was past his prime, 32 yrs old and on the decline.
Luka is 25.
An exchange of this magnitude and with these methods of negotiation has never been seen in the history of sport... and it will never happen in the future because it is clearly an operation that has nothing to do with sport. Book it.
It's an unicum and it's good to be it because is pure bull and no rispect for the fans.
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robbie84 wrote:As a Celtics fan I'm absolutely devastated for you guys. This bonehead has traded away a 1 in 50 year franchise player who hadn't even reached his prime yet. For what? a 32 year old guy who is a good player but his nickname is literally street clothes. Paired with Kyrie Irving and the corpse of Klay Thompson?
His plan is obviously have all 3 old veterans all coming off the books around the same time....but why?
So he can do his own genius rebuild and draft some guys no where good as Doncic? Sign a megastar free agent that isn't as good as Doncic?
It's simply asinine.
I just can't **** believe this moron has done this to you. You could have had literally any player you wanted outside of Joker, Shai and Giannis basically. AND picks.
I just can't believe he didn't even shop around and see what else he could get.
I mean I could almost guarantee that Brad Stevens would have given yall Tatum for Doncic. That's how freakin' good Doncic is.
AND he's given him to the Lakers on a platter.
Yeah you bring up great points
Soon AD and Kyrie will age out, they're already 31-32... and then what, Mavs back in the draft looking for another franchise player...
uh, you already had one, a potential all time Hall of Famer, potential top 10 GOAT player when it's all said and done....
this man dropped 73 and took you 3 games away from a championship last year...
and you traded him.
I'm not even a Mavs fan and I'm shocked for you. Turrible isn't even enough
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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:GopherIt! wrote:This reminds me of when the Wolves traded KG for the Al Jefferson poo poo platter. KG of course went on to have 6 great years out East, won a chip, and THEN to add insult to injury, was included in a trade for a heist of picks used to grab Tatum and Brown and win another chip. Ugh! Also, KG wanted to retire a Wolf. The trade was entirely the idea of Kevin McFail to recoup lost draft picks & help his buddy Ainge. Unforgivable. The once hometown hero completely DESTROYED his legacy w Minnesotans.
Even then, KG was past his prime, 32 yrs old and on the decline.
Luka is 25.
My point was simply to say both trades were/are devastating to an entire state of fans of those franchises.
KG was the face of MN basketball. He played another 9 seasons after leaving. The year he was traded he won DPoY, finished third in mvp voting & won a chip for a much hated rival. Like Luka, he was a one of a kind talent and the face of pro basketball of an entire state. Minnesota had nothing prior to KG.* Post KG, the Wolves franchise fell into complete disarray. They fell to the very bottom in the standings, suffered colossal mismanagement and replaced the Clippers as the biggest loser/joke in the NBA. Most Minnesotan’s either completely gave up on the NBA or started following whatever team LeBron was on.
If Luka proves the GM wrong, stays healthy, plays great 9-10 more years and wins a chip in L.A., that will only add to the sting.
If Dallas turns back into into the pre-Cuban disaster franchise again, that will also only add to the sting. A trade like this can have a negative impact that will last generations.
(*Pls don’t get me started on how the NBA has wiped away the Mikan/Mpls Lakers legacy in the city/state.)
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GopherIt! wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:GopherIt! wrote:This reminds me of when the Wolves traded KG for the Al Jefferson poo poo platter. KG of course went on to have 6 great years out East, won a chip, and THEN to add insult to injury, was included in a trade for a heist of picks used to grab Tatum and Brown and win another chip. Ugh! Also, KG wanted to retire a Wolf. The trade was entirely the idea of Kevin McFail to recoup lost draft picks & help his buddy Ainge. Unforgivable. The once hometown hero completely DESTROYED his legacy w Minnesotans.
Even then, KG was past his prime, 32 yrs old and on the decline.
Luka is 25.
My point was simply to say both trades were/are devastating to an entire state of fans of those franchises.
KG was the face of MN basketball. He played another 9 seasons after leaving. The year he was traded he won DPoY, finished third in mvp voting & won a chip for a much hated rival. Like Luka, he was a one of a kind talent and the face of pro basketball of an entire state. Minnesota had nothing prior to KG.* Post KG, the Wolves franchise fell into complete disarray. They fell to the very bottom in the standings, suffered colossal mismanagement and replaced the Clippers as the biggest loser/joke in the NBA. Most Minnesotan’s either completely gave up on the NBA or started following whatever team LeBron was on.
If Luka proves the GM wrong, stays healthy, plays great 9-10 more years and wins a chip in L.A., that will only add to the sting.
If Dallas turns back into into the pre-Cuban disaster franchise again, that will also only add to the sting. A trade like this can have a negative impact that will last generations.
(*Pls don’t get me started on how the NBA has wiped away the Mikan/Mpls Lakers legacy in the city/state.)
There's a huge difference in trading away a 25 year old superstar star and a 32 year old superstar. KG was like AD in this scenario. He played 9 seasons but after 2010 he was a shell of himself from the injury.
Jefferson was young, up and coming and there were multiple picks involved. Al Jefferson was an All NBA player and averaged 22 points 11 rebounds for Minny. He wasn't a scrub and he was young.
The value that minny for for KG wasn't fantastic but KG was not 26 yeas old he was 32 years old. Huge difference in franchise timelines.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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robbie84 wrote:GopherIt! wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Even then, KG was past his prime, 32 yrs old and on the decline.
Luka is 25.
My point was simply to say both trades were/are devastating to an entire state of fans of those franchises.
KG was the face of MN basketball. He played another 9 seasons after leaving. The year he was traded he won DPoY, finished third in mvp voting & won a chip for a much hated rival. Like Luka, he was a one of a kind talent and the face of pro basketball of an entire state. Minnesota had nothing prior to KG.* Post KG, the Wolves franchise fell into complete disarray. They fell to the very bottom in the standings, suffered colossal mismanagement and replaced the Clippers as the biggest loser/joke in the NBA. Most Minnesotan’s either completely gave up on the NBA or started following whatever team LeBron was on.
If Luka proves the GM wrong, stays healthy, plays great 9-10 more years and wins a chip in L.A., that will only add to the sting.
If Dallas turns back into into the pre-Cuban disaster franchise again, that will also only add to the sting. A trade like this can have a negative impact that will last generations.
(*Pls don’t get me started on how the NBA has wiped away the Mikan/Mpls Lakers legacy in the city/state.)
There's a huge difference in trading away a 25 year old superstar star and a 32 year old superstar. KG was like AD in this scenario. He played 9 seasons but after 2010 he was a shell of himself from the injury.
Jefferson was young, up and coming and there were multiple picks involved. Al Jefferson was an All NBA player and averaged 22 points 11 rebounds for Minny. He wasn't a scrub and he was young.
The value that minny for for KG wasn't fantastic but KG was not 26 yeas old he was 32 years old. Huge difference in franchise timelines.
Don’t be a dick man. My post was for ONE purpose - to sympathizing w Mavs fans.
The Luka trade is a massive pile of horse manure. The KG trade was also a massive pile of horse manure. The fact one pile of horse manure may be larger than the other doesn’t mean ****.
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I concur.41Dirk41 wrote:HMFFL wrote:Kyrie Irving: 'It's still a grieving process right now. I miss my hermano'
“Just really shocked,” Irving said after scoring 34 points in 42 minutes in a 118-116 loss to the 76ers at Wells Fargo Center. “You just don’t imagine you’re going to get ready to go to sleep and then you find out news like that. “It’s still a grieving process right now. I miss my hermano.” – via ESPN
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/43698759/kyrie-irving-grieving-doncic-trade-miss-my-hermano
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You know that i defended Irving from day 1 despise his bizzarre statements in the past but i would have expected something else about Luka trade.
It disappointed me, he always had the courage to say what he thought despite everything.
Next summer you can walk away too. Thanks.
It's been such a sad and disappointing week. People thought Irving was going to be the issue, and even I was concerned at first, but it's been our ownership & front office. Irving has been as professional as they come.
I look forward to what's next for him and Jason Kidd. If I know Jason Kidd, I believe he's going to move on from this, and I won't be surprised if he opts to join the Lakers, once he's done with Dallas. He looked disgusted.
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Knicks fan here. Is this the same front office that gave us Brunson for nothing? They can't be real people.
We got fleeced and traded FIVE firsts for Mikal Bridges. Luka trade, especially at the draft should net 7 1sts and prospects. You can trade picks up to 7 out, in Stepian years you can swap. OKC, Orlando and before trading for Dud'Aaron Fox SAS all had all their picks and mlre, and good young players.
Lakers ownership must have Diddy pics of all other team owners and Adam Silver. No other explanation.
We got fleeced and traded FIVE firsts for Mikal Bridges. Luka trade, especially at the draft should net 7 1sts and prospects. You can trade picks up to 7 out, in Stepian years you can swap. OKC, Orlando and before trading for Dud'Aaron Fox SAS all had all their picks and mlre, and good young players.
Lakers ownership must have Diddy pics of all other team owners and Adam Silver. No other explanation.
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I'm a Celtics fan but I don't care where Luka went. I'm a 53yo sports fan and what bothers me is that he's been taken from Dallas and it's fans. I've been disgusted since I've heard the news and the only justice is the league finding out why this happened and they make amends. Trading a player like that at that age is beyond comprehension.
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Yes, Nico Harrison unloaded Brunson.nedleeds wrote:Knicks fan here. Is this the same front office that gave us Brunson for nothing? They can't be real people.
We got fleeced and traded FIVE firsts for Mikal Bridges. Luka trade, especially at the draft should net 7 1sts and prospects. You can trade picks up to 7 out, in Stepian years you can swap. OKC, Orlando and before trading for Dud'Aaron Fox SAS all had all their picks and mlre, and good young players.
Lakers ownership must have Diddy pics of all other team owners and Adam Silver. No other explanation.
He also is why Nike didn't land Steph Curry.
I never saw value from this:
•February 10, 2022: Traded Kristaps Porzingis and a 2022 2nd round draft pick (Yannick Nzosa was later selected) to the Washington Wizards for Davis Bertans and Spencer Dinwiddie. 2022 2nd-rd pick is DAL own
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robbie84 wrote:As a Celtics fan I'm absolutely devastated for you guys. This bonehead has traded away a 1 in 50 year franchise player who hadn't even reached his prime yet. For what? a 32 year old guy who is a good player but his nickname is literally street clothes. Paired with Kyrie Irving and the corpse of Klay Thompson?
His plan is obviously have all 3 old veterans all coming off the books around the same time....but why?
So he can do his own genius rebuild and draft some guys no where good as Doncic? Sign a megastar free agent that isn't as good as Doncic?
It's simply asinine.
I just can't **** believe this moron has done this to you. You could have had literally any player you wanted outside of Joker, Shai and Giannis basically. AND picks.
I just can't believe he didn't even shop around and see what else he could get.
I mean I could almost guarantee that Brad Stevens would have given yall Tatum for Doncic. That's how freakin' good Doncic is.
AND he's given him to the Lakers-a conference rival- on a platter.
Thank You, I appreciate it.
I heard 1 local sports guy today say this is like losing a family member and then having to watch them go live with another family.
It would have been far easier for me to deal with if this were a career ending injury. This is a whole different category of crazy even besides the crushing heartbreak.
Nick rips it to shreds...
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HMFFL wrote:Yes, Nico Harrison unloaded Brunson.nedleeds wrote:Knicks fan here. Is this the same front office that gave us Brunson for nothing? They can't be real people.
We got fleeced and traded FIVE firsts for Mikal Bridges. Luka trade, especially at the draft should net 7 1sts and prospects. You can trade picks up to 7 out, in Stepian years you can swap. OKC, Orlando and before trading for Dud'Aaron Fox SAS all had all their picks and mlre, and good young players.
Lakers ownership must have Diddy pics of all other team owners and Adam Silver. No other explanation.
He also is why Nike didn't land Steph Curry.
I never saw value from this:
•February 10, 2022: Traded Kristaps Porzingis and a 2022 2nd round draft pick (Yannick Nzosa was later selected) to the Washington Wizards for Davis Bertans and Spencer Dinwiddie. 2022 2nd-rd pick is DAL own
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That was an awful, give up move trade that wasted a year. If you think KP is hurt too much just ride his deal out. Taking back bad smaller contracts was bizarre. Keep KP and if he's healthy you have a top 3 ( at the time anyway) rim protect and credible pop threat.
You had already fleeced the Knicks on that trade to get him. We got a load of trash back. Shout outs to Dennis Smith Jr. lolllllllll
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nedleeds wrote:HMFFL wrote:Yes, Nico Harrison unloaded Brunson.nedleeds wrote:Knicks fan here. Is this the same front office that gave us Brunson for nothing? They can't be real people.
We got fleeced and traded FIVE firsts for Mikal Bridges. Luka trade, especially at the draft should net 7 1sts and prospects. You can trade picks up to 7 out, in Stepian years you can swap. OKC, Orlando and before trading for Dud'Aaron Fox SAS all had all their picks and mlre, and good young players.
Lakers ownership must have Diddy pics of all other team owners and Adam Silver. No other explanation.
He also is why Nike didn't land Steph Curry.
I never saw value from this:
•February 10, 2022: Traded Kristaps Porzingis and a 2022 2nd round draft pick (Yannick Nzosa was later selected) to the Washington Wizards for Davis Bertans and Spencer Dinwiddie. 2022 2nd-rd pick is DAL own
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That was an awful, give up move trade that wasted a year. If you think KP is hurt too much just ride his deal out. Taking back bad smaller contracts was bizarre. Keep KP and if he's healthy you have a top 3 ( at the time anyway) rim protect and credible pop threat.
You had already fleeced the Knicks on that trade to get him. We got a load of trash back. Shout outs to Dennis Smith Jr. lolllllllll
Yes it was awful. I hated that trade at the time
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Silver is pretty happy now. Next Lakers game will be on national television. For context, it was not on ESPN prior to the Luka trade.
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Is it too early to dream about Luka coming back in 5 years when Nico is not with the Mavs anymore?
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MassimoPayne wrote:Is it too early to dream about Luka coming back in 5 years when Nico is not with the Mavs anymore?
Too early, my guy. But more bizarre things have happened. Nothing will surprise me anymore.
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MassimoPayne wrote:Is it too early to dream about Luka coming back in 5 years when Nico is not with the Mavs anymore?
It's the end. Lakers will build a team around him for a decade and give him much more flowers than Mavs management ever did. He might return to Madrid in the end of his career though. He enjoyed in Dallas, but what happened and how it happened was just too much to get over it, ever. I don't believe that a young superstar was ever treated like this.
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36 years old Duran has torpedoed the done deal, 25 years old superstar was traded in the middle of the night. Way to go Nico.
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Remember how JFK was assassinated in Dallas? This is how it'll go down for Nico on the next home game. I have a feeling he will have to watch this game at home.
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