Mavericks - 2023 Preseason (G4. Oct. 20 vs Pistons 7p.m CST)

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Rumor: "Pablo Laso would be next in line to replace Jason Kidd for the Mavericks Head coaching spot."

For now it looks like Kidd is firm in place but Laso admitted that he did talk to Mavs and he is looking at NBA offers. This guy runs circles around Kidd when it comes to coaching.

https://basketnews.com/news-195650-pablo-laso-reveals-early-advice-to-luka-doncic-admits-hed-consider-an-nba-offer.html

Also.. Don't know wtf they doing over there but at this rate everyone is going to be injured when the season starts. Luka is already questionable for the opener.

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[BliscoSantos]

Soo Kidd,who apparently is a players coach,has yet to talk to Timmy about his role this season,even though he said to the media he sees him as a 6th Man...either Mavs have a trade in place or Kidd is just an a-hole...my gut feeling tells me it's the second

[Maverick41]

Soo Kidd,who apparently is a players coach,has yet to talk to Timmy about his role this season,even though he said to the media he sees him as a 6th Man...either Mavs have a trade in place or Kidd is just an a-hole...my gut feeling tells me it's the second

Knowing Kidd he probably doesn't even know himself what role to give Timmy. The lack of naming his starting wing + having a different starter at that position every pre-season game seems to point to that conclusion. He doesn't know what to do.

[41Dirk41]

When they fire Kidd it will be a delay by over 1 year... Like every Mavs moves, but hey Cuban is still the smartest guy in the room for sure.

[tleikheen]

Who starts on Friday ..... My choice , PG) Exum 6'5"/214# ,SG) Green 6'6"/210# , SF) Jones Jr, 6'6"/210# PF) Williams 6'6"/235# C) Lively 7'1"/234#

Defense ,speed and athleticism BUT maybe lacking in 3 pt accuracy..... Exum likes to push the pace and with Green and DJJ running with him Mavs fans will see what the Mavs look like when pushing the pace. Should be an interesting game watching "the others" get playing time without the big stars.

[Teffer10]

Soo Kidd,who apparently is a players coach,has yet to talk to Timmy about his role this season,even though he said to the media he sees him as a 6th Man...either Mavs have a trade in place or Kidd is just an a-hole...my gut feeling tells me it's the second

Knowing Kidd he probably doesn't even know himself what role to give Timmy. The lack of naming his starting wing + having a different starter at that position every pre-season game seems to point to that conclusion. He doesn't know what to do.

If Hardaway becomes a regular starter we would have the worst defensive starting 5 in Mavs history.

Hardaway's trade value must be deeply negative to a point where Mavs had absolutely no potential trade partners whatsoever.

Our backcourt situation is almost as much of a mess as our frontcourt but in a totally different way.

Talk about a completely imbalanced roster....good grief.

[Mavrelous]

Rumor: "Pablo Laso would be next in line to replace Jason Kidd for the Mavericks Head coaching spot."

For now it looks like Kidd is firm in place but Laso admitted that he did talk to Mavs and he is looking at NBA offers. This guy runs circles around Kidd when it comes to coaching.

https://basketnews.com/news-195650-pablo-laso-reveals-early-advice-to-luka-doncic-admits-hed-consider-an-nba-offer.html

Also.. Don't know wtf they doing over there but at this rate everyone is going to be injured when the season starts. Luka is already questionable for the opener.

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Most of the roster should work fine with Euro coach, the only one problematic is Kyrie, but he'll get in line...

[41Dirk41]

Probably 10 games out for Luka is the best case in the world... A little rest for him and a bunch of Ls= Kidd fired.

[Mavrelous]

Mavs with Maxi, DFS, Bullock and Powell making ~100% of the non-guard rotation had very limited off the dribble game, and their offense was heavily dominated by the lead guards, that's also why the offense opened up when Mavs had 2 ballhandlers all time on the floor, this wasn't the case when Seth, KP, Brunson and THJ were the main rotation players next to Luka, RC went to this offense only in the PO.
Now the roster resembles 2019-2021 Mavs more than post KP 2nd trade Mavs, you have much more optionality in your sets, Kyrie, Green, Hardy, Exum, Seth, Grant, THJ all can dribble, pass and make decisions, you don't have to iso Luka and Kyrie all the time.

[ozwizard8]

Probably 10 games out for Luka is the best case in the world... A little rest for him and a bunch of Ls= Kidd fired.

-> Luka is out = perfect excuse for the losses. (2-8)
-> Luka coming back probably defense will drop down and .500 for next 20 games. (12-18)
-> poor in-tournament performance
-> Kidd fired

[ozwizard8]

Mavs with Maxi, DFS, Bullock and Powell making ~100% of the non-guard rotation had very limited off the dribble game, and their offense was heavily dominated by the lead guards, that's also why the offense opened up when Mavs had 2 ballhandlers all time on the floor, this wasn't the case when Seth, KP, Brunson and THJ were the main rotation players next to Luka, RC went to this offense only in the PO.
Now the roster resembles 2019-2021 Mavs more than post KP 2nd trade Mavs, you have much more optionality in your sets, Kyrie, Green, Hardy, Exum, Seth, Grant, THJ all can dribble, pass and make decisions, you don't have to iso Luka and Kyrie all the time.

It is important to note that under Carlisle Mavs had the all-time best offense of the NBA. 19-20 season. Granted that, NBA tempo increased and offensive rating went through the roof. So now that the all-time #1 offense is passed by 10+ teams.

Kidd switched to lower tempo, more half-court game to improve our defense, and mess up opponent teams' offensive momentum. It worked for Mavs. We avoided the Clippers-Kawhi and made WCF.

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From what I read and listened to about Mavs, many people are actually asking who would be the 3rd playmaker is.
* Out of your list, Green and Grant are not good dribblers/playmakers.
* THJ, Exum did not show playmaking much in the NBA. THJ decision-making is suspect. THJ can create his own inefficient shot but that does not count for playmaking for others. Seth is old now, and he is actually a better off-ball player.

So after Luka and Kyrie, 3rd playmaker is not our strength.
1. Exum showed improvement in the Euroleague. Barcelona and Partizan seasons were probably great internship years to learn how to run sets.
2. Hardy showed he can score 20 points on any given night. I did not see many assists per game from him, and he did not have a great assist-to-turnover ratio.

Mavs need either Exum or Hardy to step up for this department. But then again, Luka and Kyrie are probably the top 5 best ball handlers in this league so Mavs may not need much from others to create if Luka-Kyrie stays healthy.
Shooting will be important as always for the role players. Maxi-Grant are great for their positions. Seth and Hardy are proven as well. Hopefully Green and Prosper-Derrick Jones can keep up too.

[tleikheen]

The naysayers against Exum as the 3rd ballhandler are slowly falling away. Angstad and Harris & Dallas Moneyball had Exum as signing on after playing great ball in the Olympics,2 yrs in Euroball and World Cup to sit on the end of the bench.Then they barely mentioned him as an after thought while pushing Jaden Hardy hard as the 3rd ball handler. As the pre season has gone on its Exum who is emerging as the guy who can run an offense and pushes the pace hard that JKidd wants to see.It helps that Exum is a big PG who plays good defense and gives the Mavs some heigth at the point of attack.
One more pre season game to see how the guard situation shows itself and get an idea in how JKidd is looking to play his guards as the guards are the backbone of this Mavs team.

[jpengland]

Soo Kidd,who apparently is a players coach,has yet to talk to Timmy about his role this season,even though he said to the media he sees him as a 6th Man...either Mavs have a trade in place or Kidd is just an a-hole...my gut feeling tells me it's the second

The second is pretty much proven to be true.

He's also a really bad basketball coach.

It astounds me that he's still in post.

[tleikheen]

JKidd said Exum played great with Kyrie and hopes they push the pace hard against Detroit.
With Hardy likely not playing and Kyrie needing some minutes we'll likely see Exum /Kyrie running the show. Green and DJJ should get some good minutes too . Lets see if GWms can get started ,he's been slow out of the gate so far.

[Darren]

Mavs with Maxi, DFS, Bullock and Powell making ~100% of the non-guard rotation had very limited off the dribble game, and their offense was heavily dominated by the lead guards, that's also why the offense opened up when Mavs had 2 ballhandlers all time on the floor, this wasn't the case when Seth, KP, Brunson and THJ were the main rotation players next to Luka, RC went to this offense only in the PO.
Now the roster resembles 2019-2021 Mavs more than post KP 2nd trade Mavs, you have much more optionality in your sets, Kyrie, Green, Hardy, Exum, Seth, Grant, THJ all can dribble, pass and make decisions, you don't have to iso Luka and Kyrie all the time.

It is important to note that under Carlisle Mavs had the all-time best offense of the NBA. 19-20 season. Granted that, NBA tempo increased and offensive rating went through the roof. So now that the all-time #1 offense is passed by 10+ teams.

Kidd switched to lower tempo, more half-court game to improve our defense, and mess up opponent teams' offensive momentum. It worked for Mavs. We avoided the Clippers-Kawhi and made WCF.

***

From what I read and listened to about Mavs, many people are actually asking who would be the 3rd playmaker is.
* Out of your list, Green and Grant are not good dribblers/playmakers.
* THJ, Exum did not show playmaking much in the NBA. THJ decision-making is suspect. THJ can create his own inefficient shot but that does not count for playmaking for others. Seth is old now, and he is actually a better off-ball player.

So after Luka and Kyrie, 3rd playmaker is not our strength.
1. Exum showed improvement in the Euroleague. Barcelona and Partizan seasons were probably great internship years to learn how to run sets.
2. Hardy showed he can score 20 points on any given night. I did not see many assists per game from him, and he did not have a great assist-to-turnover ratio.

Mavs need either Exum or Hardy to step up for this department. But then again, Luka and Kyrie are probably the top 5 best ball handlers in this league so Mavs may not need much from others to create if Luka-Kyrie stays healthy.
Shooting will be important as always for the role players. Maxi-Grant are great for their positions. Seth and Hardy are proven as well. Hopefully Green and Prosper-Derrick Jones can keep up too.

Hardaway + Curry = half court set
or Green + Exum = uptempo set

[Darren]

Rumor: "Pablo Laso would be next in line to replace Jason Kidd for the Mavericks Head coaching spot."

For now it looks like Kidd is firm in place but Laso admitted that he did talk to Mavs and he is looking at NBA offers. This guy runs circles around Kidd when it comes to coaching.

https://basketnews.com/news-195650-pablo-laso-reveals-early-advice-to-luka-doncic-admits-hed-consider-an-nba-offer.html

Also.. Don't know wtf they doing over there but at this rate everyone is going to be injured when the season starts. Luka is already questionable for the opener.

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History repeats for.Kidd. 1st year is brilliant in Milwaukee but the team bottom out in defense during the 2nd year. This is a make-or-break season with Kidd. Kidd is no where near Don Nelson who is possibly the best fit to the roster construction.

From the back-to-back losses against Minny, I don't think Kidd is doing right. KAT is not a player GW can guard. I think either Maxi or Powell has to start. The same could happen in season opener. You want to put a guard on a big, right? This is a gamble with slim chance of success. By the time the Mavs guarantee Grant a starting spot and inability to strengthen the frontcourt, the Mavs needs to keep a starting spot opened for mismatches every game. Grant is only 6-6 with limited playmaking skills.

[41Dirk41]

Our last W was in march probably.

[Mavrelous]

Last game of the pre-season, let's end it on a positive note to take advantage of the soft schedule at the start of the season.

[Mavrelous]

Christian Wood with +/- -35 in 15 minutes, that's impressive...
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401591931

[ejs78]

Christian Wood with +/- -35 in 15 minutes, that's impressive...
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401591931

This will likely be the first winning team he'll ever be on and his biggest contribution might be sitting on the bench