ImageImageImage

Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

dirkforpres
RealGM
Posts: 12,020
And1: 7,967
Joined: Sep 13, 2005
   

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#521 » by dirkforpres » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:21 am

Is there any chance Carlisle gets fired before next season?
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 18,084
And1: 5,339
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#522 » by Mr B » Sun Mar 1, 2020 5:34 am

dirkforpres wrote:Is there any chance Carlisle gets fired before next season?


Not a chance, nor should he be.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Michaellam1987
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,392
And1: 455
Joined: Jan 22, 2020

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#523 » by Michaellam1987 » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:06 pm

We have to continue to improve our roster, imagine when POR and GSW come back fully healthy next year, the fights for playoff spots in the west will be even more tense than ever
arkuo
General Manager
Posts: 9,824
And1: 2,292
Joined: Jun 16, 2004

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#524 » by arkuo » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:27 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:We have to continue to improve our roster, imagine when POR and GSW come back fully healthy next year, the fights for playoff spots in the west will be even more tense than ever



We can only do minor moves for role players for now.

When the Mavs got Porzingis, there was an understanding that they will not have cap room or picks up until 2021. So that's where we are at right now. 2020 is to bridge the gap and hold the line until we get cap room again to sign someone decent in 2021. Until then, this core is what we are stuck with.
Michaellam1987
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,392
And1: 455
Joined: Jan 22, 2020

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#525 » by Michaellam1987 » Sun Mar 1, 2020 3:32 pm

https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/02/28/predicting-the-landing-spots-for-the-top-10-best-nba-free-agents-in-2020/

I am just thinking what if THJ really opt out of his contract and would Dallas be interested to DeRozan's service and cash in 1 year earlier (2020 not many teams with cap space, while also has potential to become contender, obviously except MIA). This is really a difficult choice, but IMO he is most likely 3rd all star that has higher possibilities to join us. Obviously, DeRozan is already 30, has questionable defense, and poor 3 points shooter, but he is actually good in all other aspects, over the last few years, he can steadily give you 20+ points under very good FG% (even he shoots many mid ranges but he does drive a lot and get FTs), 5+ rebound, 5+ assist, 1+ steal, give you 1 more option to rely on to take over during tight game. He also has bigger body to play the SG/SF or even sometimes on the modern 4 position. I don't think there will be that many opponent teams have 2 defenders to match Luka and DeRozan's offense, while we still have shooters from DFS/Maxi/KP/Curry.
Captain_Obvious
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,831
And1: 1,001
Joined: Apr 02, 2006

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#526 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Mar 1, 2020 6:14 pm

This team needs a dog on defense. They are too soft to get the hard stops.

This offseason, I hope they get 1-2 of those guys, in order:
  • Kris Dunn
  • Thybulle (hard)
  • DiVincenzo (hard)
  • Bruce Brown

I think the team is going to push for Dunn this offseason. Obviously, his shooting is a concern and they will have to figure out if they can "fix" it. But he could be available. Bulls just drafted a scoring PG and they need to pay Dunn. Doubt that's going to happen with the season they have.
arkuo
General Manager
Posts: 9,824
And1: 2,292
Joined: Jun 16, 2004

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#527 » by arkuo » Sun Mar 1, 2020 8:12 pm

Would you save Philly and take Al Horford off their hands if he came back with Thybulle?

I personally would. THJ (Expiring, best shooter in the NBA right now) plus Delon Wright. For a team that needs cap relief, shooting and a point guard? That deal ticks all 3.

Sure Horford locks us up from any moves in 2021, but him and Thybulle fit the system perfectly. It's a risk, but it can pay off.

C- Porzingis / Powell
PF- Horford / Kleber
SF- Finney Smith / Jackson
SG- Thybulle / Curry
PG- Doncic / Brunson
Darren
RealGM
Posts: 14,104
And1: 915
Joined: Nov 06, 2003

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#528 » by Darren » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:46 am

Jordan Bell is waived. Sounds like a pretty good fit here. I am kinda impressed with Bell's plays for GSW. I'm all for this signing and unloading Powell, Jackson and Wright for expiring contracts and/or pick coming summer. I am also interested with a slot to land FVV if the Mavs could create enough space. The Mavs is just way too bad with both KP and Curry tonight.
Bluelabel24
Junior
Posts: 278
And1: 51
Joined: Feb 03, 2019
   

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#529 » by Bluelabel24 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:56 am

Darren wrote:Jordan Bell is waived. Sounds like a pretty good fit here. I am kinda impressed with Bell's plays for GSW. I'm all for this signing and unloading Powell, Jackson and Wright for expiring contracts and/or pick coming summer. I am also interested with a slot to land FVV if the Mavs could create enough space. The Mavs is just way too bad with both KP and Curry tonight.

Jordan Bell would be a good fit next to Luka and even has the potential to replace Powell..
He's only 25yrs old and a big time athlete. I dont know if he can shoot though.
For now im gonna be ecstatic if they target either Bell or Darel Poirier from gleague..
oldshoolballer
Veteran
Posts: 2,601
And1: 3,208
Joined: Nov 24, 2018

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#530 » by oldshoolballer » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:20 pm

Gordon Hayward would fit in perfectly with this team.
arkuo
General Manager
Posts: 9,824
And1: 2,292
Joined: Jun 16, 2004

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#531 » by arkuo » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:23 pm

oldshoolballer wrote:Gordon Hayward would fit in perfectly with this team.


Agreed.

Although Donnie would probably trade 7 first round picks for Hayward because Ainge owns him in that department.
Michaellam1987
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,392
And1: 455
Joined: Jan 22, 2020

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#532 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:30 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:This team needs a dog on defense. They are too soft to get the hard stops.

This offseason, I hope they get 1-2 of those guys, in order:
  • Kris Dunn
  • Thybulle (hard)
  • DiVincenzo (hard)
  • Bruce Brown

I think the team is going to push for Dunn this offseason. Obviously, his shooting is a concern and they will have to figure out if they can "fix" it. But he could be available. Bulls just drafted a scoring PG and they need to pay Dunn. Doubt that's going to happen with the season they have.


We have our own version of Dunn in Delon Wright already
Michaellam1987
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,392
And1: 455
Joined: Jan 22, 2020

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#533 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:22 pm

arkuo wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:Gordon Hayward would fit in perfectly with this team.


Agreed.

Although Donnie would probably trade 7 first round picks for Hayward because Ainge owns him in that department.


Hayward has PO in the coming summer, that IMO, he is likely to exercise to stay in BOS or opts out and renegotiate immediately a new contract with BOS, but I don’t think BOS can afford the salary Hayward wanted, given the upcoming max extension for Tatum. BOS can’t afford max or close to max salary tied to all of Walker/Brown/Hayward/Tatum. Therefore, 2021 summer is a good chance to steal him from BOS through free agent. I don’t see the immediate need to spend much trade assets to trade for him.
User avatar
dakomish23
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 58,768
And1: 48,738
Joined: Sep 22, 2013
Location: Empire State
     

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#534 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:25 pm

Christian Wood should be on the radar. He’s a guy I wanted the knicks to go after when we had KP.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


#FreeJimmit
HairyGOATee
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,897
And1: 424
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#535 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Mar 8, 2020 4:44 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:This team needs a dog on defense. They are too soft to get the hard stops.

This offseason, I hope they get 1-2 of those guys, in order:
  • Kris Dunn
  • Thybulle (hard)
  • DiVincenzo (hard)
  • Bruce Brown

I think the team is going to push for Dunn this offseason. Obviously, his shooting is a concern and they will have to figure out if they can "fix" it. But he could be available. Bulls just drafted a scoring PG and they need to pay Dunn. Doubt that's going to happen with the season they have.


Why not Crowder?
HairyGOATee
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,897
And1: 424
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#536 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Mar 8, 2020 4:59 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:
Captain_Obvious wrote:This team needs a dog on defense. They are too soft to get the hard stops.

This offseason, I hope they get 1-2 of those guys, in order:
  • Kris Dunn
  • Thybulle (hard)
  • DiVincenzo (hard)
  • Bruce Brown

I think the team is going to push for Dunn this offseason. Obviously, his shooting is a concern and they will have to figure out if they can "fix" it. But he could be available. Bulls just drafted a scoring PG and they need to pay Dunn. Doubt that's going to happen with the season they have.


We have our own version of Dunn in Delon Wright already


Agreed. The Mavs need upgrades over DFS or THJ right now. Perhaps Kleber too, but he's a bit more unique than the other two because he's a 3D player that can play either the 4 or 5, while having enough versatility to provide perimeter D on switches and whatnot. I like how he sets screens too.

That's not to say that I want to get rid of DFS or THJ, but if the Mavs were to get Crowder in free agency, then maybe they can go after the likes of Lavine or Bradley Beal via trade. That'd be pretty dope.
HairyGOATee
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,897
And1: 424
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#537 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:02 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Christian Wood should be on the radar. He’s a guy I wanted the knicks to go after when we had KP.


Possibly. I think the Mavs would be better off targeting a 3D wing though tbh. If not that, then an offensive specialist who is a combo forward like Galinari or Marcus Morris.
User avatar
dakomish23
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 58,768
And1: 48,738
Joined: Sep 22, 2013
Location: Empire State
     

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#538 » by dakomish23 » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:10 pm

HairyGOATee wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Christian Wood should be on the radar. He’s a guy I wanted the knicks to go after when we had KP.


Possibly. I think the Mavs would be better off targeting a 3D wing though tbh. If not that, then an offensive specialist who is a combo forward like Galinari or Marcus Morris.


Yeah 3&D is ideal. Problem is everyone is needs those guys. A hybrid F who could guard the bigger 3’s in the NBA while being a good shooter would be a seamless fit. How many of those guys are out there? They might target one or two in the draft.

I thought of Wood b/c he’s young enough to be a long term solution while also contributing now. Can’t have enough guys who can stretch the floor and defend the rim.

So many ways you can go b/c your cornerstones are malleable.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


#FreeJimmit
HairyGOATee
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,897
And1: 424
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#539 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:26 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
HairyGOATee wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Christian Wood should be on the radar. He’s a guy I wanted the knicks to go after when we had KP.


Possibly. I think the Mavs would be better off targeting a 3D wing though tbh. If not that, then an offensive specialist who is a combo forward like Galinari or Marcus Morris.


Yeah 3&D is ideal. Problem is everyone is needs those guys. A hybrid F who could guard the bigger 3’s in the NBA while being a good shooter would be a seamless fit. How many of those guys are out there? They might target one or two in the draft.

I thought of Wood b/c he’s young enough to be a long term solution while also contributing now. Can’t have enough guys who can stretch the floor and defend the rim.

So many ways you can go b/c your cornerstones are malleable.


Yeah, Wood is cool and all, but the Mavs should place the highest priority on the wing this offseason. Throwing the full MLE at a guy like Crowder could actually work, but we'll see what happens.
HairyGOATee
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,897
And1: 424
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
         

Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#540 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:29 pm

THJ + 2020 First + GSW 2nd for Zach Lavine

Would you all like that for the Mavs? Would that be giving up too much since that's like picks #20 and #31 this year?

Return to Dallas Mavericks