Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

Michaellam1987 · Post #541 » by **Michaellam1987** » Fri May 23, 2025 2:17 pm

If the offer is BI + 2 future #1 + PP, for AD, then DAL should need to serious consider it.

daoneandonly · Post #542 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri May 23, 2025 3:13 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:If the offer is BI + 2 future #1 + PP, for AD, then DAL should need to serious consider it.

Yea I just think it makes sense. BI still gives us a playoff-caliber team, fits an offensive need the team is lacking, and has Duke pedigree which can appeal to Flagg. PP is friends with Flagg and can man the PG spot, so Kyrie doesn't feel rushed back, and we get picks we desperately need, and Nico stupidly didn't get in the first place.

Most importantly this team needs to remove the toxins of Nico, Kidd, and AD by association.

Mr B · Post #543 » by **Mr B** » Fri May 23, 2025 3:18 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:If the offer is BI + 2 future #1 + PP, for AD, then DAL should need to serious consider it.

Yea I just think it makes sense. BI still gives us a playoff-caliber team, fits an offensive need the team is lacking, and has Duke pedigree which can appeal to Flagg. PP is friends with Flagg and can man the PG spot, so Kyrie doesn't feel rushed back, and we get picks we desperately need, and Nico stupidly didn't get in the first place.

Most importantly this team needs to remove the toxins of Nico, Kidd, and AD by association.

They would have a huge log jam at the wing position no? PJ, Flagg, BI, and Klay? Obviously Klay would be the odd man out but I do not see that as a very balanced team.

arkuo · Post #544 » by **arkuo** » Fri May 23, 2025 3:33 pm

If Cooper does turn out to be the real deal, then our 2nd round pick next year is 99% going to be his brother Ace. As a favor to the family. That other brother has no skill but you know the politics of the game.

arkuo · Post #545 » by **arkuo** » Fri May 23, 2025 3:39 pm

How do you guys feel about trading PJ and Gaff for Draymond Green and Podz?

joesha1698 · Post #546 » by **joesha1698** » Fri May 23, 2025 3:57 pm

Teffer10 wrote:I understand the concerns about Holiday because that last year is brutal, but my thinking is that he is a realistic target that would cost us very little if anything in terms of valuable trade capital.

Imagine a lineup of Kyrie/Jrue/Flagg/PJ/AD closing games and still having our current valuable trade assets.

I like Holiday but not sure about the 3 years remaining at 34. I would rather have Derrick white at 30 for the next 4 years. I would give up Gafford, Naji Marshall, + Powell (if he opts in) for him. I would also throw in 2 second round picks OR a really late 1st rounder if we got it. I think we need PJ as an insurance policy because it will take some time for Flagg to develop and AD is hurt a lot...so PJ can play the SF-PF. I would try to hold onto him if we can get him re-signed to a decent deal. 20-23 million a year extension.

Note: I also think it would be cool if we can find a roster spot for Chris Paul. I think coming off the bench he could provide great leadership.

joesha1698 · Post #547 » by **joesha1698** » Fri May 23, 2025 4:01 pm

arkuo wrote:How do you guys feel about trading PJ and Gaff for Draymond Green and Podz?

I do not like it. I do not think Pod is that great and Draymond is too old. I would try to keep PJ for added wing depth and as a backup to AD who is always injured. I think we need a backup or starting point guard that can really get others involved for our second unit. A high level backup pg (like a chris paul or lonzo ball) could really help us get easier shots without a Kyrie on the floor.

Mr B · Post #548 » by **Mr B** » Fri May 23, 2025 6:59 pm

arkuo wrote:How do you guys feel about trading PJ and Gaff for Draymond Green and Podz?

About a month ago I heard some talking head on tv (can’t remember which one) predict that Dray would be traded to Dallas this off season. I never thought it would happen at that time but I can’t say that now. I could actually see that happening.

Podziemski fits a major team need. He’s not true PG but he could fill in until Kyrie gets back. Plus he only makes $3M this season and a team option for $5M next season.

Draymond is a bit trickier though. He’s making $25M this season and a player option for $27M next season. It feels like the Warriors have been wanting to move Dray for about a year now but haven’t been able to because he’s a fan favorite and franchise icon (imagine that). Now they’re in a position to move him in order to make another run while Curry is still elite. PJ and Gaff would really help that cause. Dray would bring defense, attitude, and passing to the Mavs but I’m not sure I want Cooper Flagg anywhere near Draymond Green.

Would this trade help the Mavs get under the 1st apron? What if they get a 3rd team involved and only take back Podz and a trade exception? Is something like that possible?

arkuo · Post #549 » by **arkuo** » Fri May 23, 2025 7:14 pm

Read on Twitter

Anyone see this new photo of Lively with AD? Holy crap Lively looks 7'4" or AD is actually just 6'7. Someone's lying man.

Heezzi · Post #550 » by **Heezzi** » Fri May 23, 2025 7:53 pm

arkuo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Anyone see this new photo of Lively with AD? Holy crap Lively looks 7'4" or AD is actually just 6'7. Someone's lying man.

Lively looks like he grew.

Heezzi · Post #551 » by **Heezzi** » Fri May 23, 2025 8:02 pm

Mr B wrote:
Podziemski fits a major team need. He’s not true PG but he could fill in until Kyrie gets back. Plus he only makes $3M this season and a team option for $5M next season.

Would this trade help the Mavs get under the 1st apron? What if they get a 3rd team involved and only take back Podz and a trade exception? Is something like that possible?

I'd rather bring back Seth Curry for a 4th time. He already knows the system and is on a minimum contract.

arkuo · Post #552 » by **arkuo** » Sat May 24, 2025 4:05 am

Boston media reporting there is no chance White or Prtichard gets dealt this summer.

Any team want to send assets for KP's corpse? I see Boston expects full cooperation from the league in order to help restore their team. Got it

Darren · Post #553 » by **Darren** » Sat May 24, 2025 4:28 am

AD for KD might work if Phoenix avoids a complete rebuild. Flagg gets back to natural position. With KD, you need not bring in a PG and it won't hurt the defense as much. You can keep both PJ and Gafford for a 1year run.

Darren · Post #554 » by **Darren** » Sat May 24, 2025 4:30 am

Next year, you have both KD and Kyrie expire.

arkuo · Post #555 » by **arkuo** » Sat May 24, 2025 4:59 am

Darren wrote:Next year, you have both KD and Kyrie expire.

If Kyrie's re-signing to a new deal, it won't just be for one year Darren.

arkuo · Post #556 » by **arkuo** » Sat May 24, 2025 5:07 am

Heezzi wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Anyone see this new photo of Lively with AD? Holy crap Lively looks 7'4" or AD is actually just 6'7. Someone's lying man.

Lively looks like he grew.

Lively's 21? Looks like he's still growing.

Personally I want Flagg to grow to like 6'11 or 7'0 just like Dirk. He's just turned 18 so that's possible.

arkuo · Post #557 » by **arkuo** » Sat May 24, 2025 7:24 am

Smoking Cuban is reporting Dallas possibly looking at taking Walter Clayton jr. out of Florida with a late first rounder.

6'3 point guard. Don't know this kid but I'm thinking Hardy for a late first round pick.

If anyone's interested, video below.

If Nico's able to get another first rounder, I'm all for it man.

This kid is slated to go 27 to 29 range. That's Brooklyn, Boston or Phoenix. All viable trade partners.

My bet would be Boston sends us a pick for taking Jrue off their payroll.

Watch on YouTube

Michaellam1987 · Post #558 » by **Michaellam1987** » Sat May 24, 2025 9:06 am

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Teffer10 · Post #559 » by **Teffer10** » Sat May 24, 2025 9:21 am

arkuo wrote:Smoking Cuban is reporting Dallas possibly looking at taking Walter Clayton jr. out of Florida with a late first rounder.

6'3 point guard. Don't know this kid but I'm thinking Hardy for a late first round pick.

If anyone's interested, video below.

If Nico's able to get another first rounder, I'm all for it man.

This kid is slated to go 27 to 29 range. That's Brooklyn, Boston or Phoenix. All viable trade partners.

My bet would be Boston sends us a pick for taking Jrue off their payroll.

Watch on YouTube

I can't imagine anyone giving up a pick for Hardy.

If Nico can somehow acquire Clayton without giving up much, he should seriously consider going the rebuild route for this team.
Flagg/Clayton/Lively/Christie/and maybe OMax has a chance to become a nice starting core in a few years.

Clayton could easily become a bust, but he also has a chance to become an athletic version of Brunson who can play defense.
He also seems to have a little bit of Iverson in his game.

Teffer10 · Post #560 » by **Teffer10** » Sat May 24, 2025 9:42 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

I like it for us but not sure Philly would go for it and quite frankly can't see Nico giving up his dream of winning it all this season.
I do agree the health gamble is not a big deal, but I think Nico is too stupid, or at least too hardheaded to see it that way.