2020 Offseason Strategy Thread

[dirkforpres]

Has anyone really psssed them

Houston is imploding
OKC in a rebuild

Portland & Phoenix might be on the same level with the Mavs not even lifting a finger yet.

Golden State we know the story there.

Mavs will get Brunson, Powell, and maybe WCS back. Have 2 picks & the MLE. Mavs can stay the path and improve slightly. They don't need to force anything and make a dumb move they'll regret later.

Donnie better pull off a trade today or tomorrow. The West just got better and I highly doubt Giannis leaves now.

Not a good start for the Mavs

This.

Staying put or marginally improving by signing a guy or two won't be enough to keep up in this arms race.

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Portland getting Covington is a underrated move. Phoenix, Portland, and Memphis will all be fighting to get into the playoffs meanwhile the only Mavs news we have gotten is that Porzingis won’t be ready to start the season.

If the goal is to make the playoffs (as it should be), the Mavs need to get help for Luka during nights when KP won’t be available ASAP.

I think swinging a trade for Hield/Bjelica, Dipo/Turner, Fournier/Gordon should be the main focus.

2021 cap space dreams need to be thrown to the wayside now that Giannis is likely staying

[dirkules_41]

Has anyone really psssed them

Houston is imploding
OKC in a rebuild

Portland & Phoenix might be on the same level with the Mavs not even lifting a finger yet.

Golden State we know the story there.

Mavs will get Brunson, Powell, and maybe WCS back. Have 2 picks & the MLE. Mavs can stay the path and improve slightly. They don't need to force anything and make a dumb move they'll regret later.

Donnie better pull off a trade today or tomorrow. The West just got better and I highly doubt Giannis leaves now.

Not a good start for the Mavs

This.

Staying put or marginally improving by signing a guy or two won't be enough to keep up in this arms race.

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Lakers will be stronger, GSW will be right back fighting for the top, Phoenix will be improved (and we already went 1-3 against them last year). OKC has the potential to come out of this ok, Portland won't be any worse, Utah will be strong, etc.

Luka is a natural born winner, we gotta start winning more to have a long term happy Luka.

[Archx]

If the goal is to make the playoffs (as it should be), the Mavs need to get help for Luka during nights when KP won’t be available ASAP.

I think swinging a trade for Hield/Bjelica, Dipo/Turner, Fournier/Gordon should be the main focus.

2021 cap space dreams need to be thrown to the wayside now that Giannis is likely staying

Maybe this is a good sign for the future?

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[ejs78]

Has anyone really psssed them

Houston is imploding
OKC in a rebuild

Portland & Phoenix might be on the same level with the Mavs not even lifting a finger yet.

Golden State we know the story there.

Mavs will get Brunson, Powell, and maybe WCS back. Have 2 picks & the MLE. Mavs can stay the path and improve slightly. They don't need to force anything and make a dumb move they'll regret later.

This.

Staying put or marginally improving by signing a guy or two won't be enough to keep up in this arms race.

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Portland getting Covington is a underrated move. Phoenix, Portland, and Memphis will all be fighting to get into the playoffs meanwhile the only Mavs news we have gotten is that Porzingis won’t be ready to start the season.

If the goal is to make the playoffs (as it should be), the Mavs need to get help for Luka during nights when KP won’t be available ASAP.

I think swinging a trade for Hield/Bjelica, Dipo/Turner, Fournier/Gordon should be the main focus.

2021 cap space dreams need to be thrown to the wayside now that Giannis is likely staying

There will be plenty of other FA in 21 if that's the route they choose.

Those are all good players in those trades but do they get the Mavs out of the 2nd?

It's a big IF but if KP is healthy with the other additions I mentioned they'll probably be a 2nd rd exit anyways with young controlled players and flexibility moving forward.

Either way go Mavs



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[JJP]

The Mavs really don't have the player assets to trade as other teams do. Let's see where they are when the draft and free agency are finally over. It's easy to knee-jerk when pieces start to move and your pieces are sitting still.

[ejs78]

This is another good point.

What do the Mavs really have to trade to bring back any thing of significance?

The Mavs really don't have the player assets to trade as other teams do. Let's see where they are when the draft and free agency are finally over. It's easy to knee-jerk when pieces start to move and your pieces are sitting still.

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[dirkforpres]

This is another good point.

What do the Mavs really have to trade to bring back any thing of significance?

The Mavs really don't have the player assets to trade as other teams do. Let's see where they are when the draft and free agency are finally over. It's easy to knee-jerk when pieces start to move and your pieces are sitting still.

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Kleber, DFS, Curry, and Brunson are all solid players on good contracts. Adding into that the fact that we essentially have 2 firsts this draft

Considering what Portland gave for Covington, LA gave for Schroder, and what Milwaukee gave for Bogdanovic, I don’t think Nellie has any excuses not to be able to find a seller

[ejs78]

This is another good point.

What do the Mavs really have to trade to bring back any thing of significance?

The Mavs really don't have the player assets to trade as other teams do. Let's see where they are when the draft and free agency are finally over. It's easy to knee-jerk when pieces start to move and your pieces are sitting still.

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Kleber, DFS, Curry, and Brunson are all solid players on good contracts. Adding into that the fact that we essentially have 2 firsts this draft

Considering what Portland gave for Covington, LA gave for Schroder, and what Milwaukee gave for Bogdanovic, I don’t think Nellie has any excuses not to be able to find a seller

Correct these are all players on good contracts, but what are they bringing back? Dont think too many teams are looking to get Maxi or DFS.

Talking about Olidipo/Turner type deals Im still not sure they get out of the 2nd rd

Talking about RoCo/Bogdanovic type deals Im not 100% they get out of the 1st rd and definitely not the 2nd.

Mavs can be picky now that that have Luka and don't have to make moves just for the sake of doing it

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[JD45]

A desperate feeling they need to "do something" to is likely to lead to another Delon Wright.

The Mavs should be actively looking for great opportunities, but forcing the issue will set them back.

[Mr B]

Reading the posts here it sounds like you guys are convinced that the Mavs just went on vacation and have said screw the off season we’re getting Giannis next year.

Couldn’t be further from the truth. The Mavs have been linked to several trades this week however they just don’t have the assets. The Mavs could have offered pick #18 however the Blazers offered pick #16. It’s not like they aren’t trying. They just don’t have the ammo.


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[dirkforpres]

It just highlights the main faults of this front office in being able to acquire pieces to surround its star player. The argument that the Mavs don’t have assets to trade should should fall solely on Donnie Nelson, since he’s the one that brought all these guys in... but somehow it never gets back there

If agents and players truly do want to come to Dallas, it shouldn’t be this hard to go get good ones.

[jpengland]

We have very few assets for trading for a star right now.

We shouldn't panic, sit tight unless a knock it out of the park deal presents itself. Come a few days into FA there will be teams scrambling to stay under tax lines and a whole host of FAs who have missed big money and will be interested in a year knocking down open shots alongside Luka.

Grab some one year deals, run it back, keep flexibility for a disgruntled star or await next summer and go big then.

[jpengland]

It just highlights the main faults of this front office in being able to acquire pieces to surround its star player. The argument that the Mavs don’t have assets to trade should should fall solely on Donnie Nelson, since he’s the one that brought all these guys in... but somehow it never gets back there

If agents and players truly do want to come to Dallas, it shouldn’t be this hard to go get good ones.

We are two years into Luka and already have KP and a host of role players on good deals. The plan was 2021. Luka has accelerated things somewhat by being so damn good but that shouldn't entirely change our course unless the right deal presents itself.

[ejs78]

They surrounded him with another player who the franchise believes is a star. In doing so they had to take on some money and give up picks. Building a team doesn't happen over night.

I live in Detroit and trust me the Mavs could be in a way worse situation with a completely incompetent FO.

They have a top 1-10 player in Luka and a near all-star in KP.

It just highlights the main faults of this front office in being able to acquire pieces to surround its star player. The argument that the Mavs don’t have assets to trade should should fall solely on Donnie Nelson, since he’s the one that brought all these guys in... but somehow it never gets back there

If agents and players truly do want to come to Dallas, it shouldn’t be this hard to go get good ones.

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[Mr B]

In case no one is paying attention.

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[arkuo]

They surrounded him with another player who the franchise believes is a star. In doing so they had to take on some money and give up picks. Building a team doesn't happen over night.

I live in Detroit and trust me the Mavs could be in a way worse situation with a completely incompetent FO.

They have a top 1-10 player in Luka and a near all-star in KP.

It just highlights the main faults of this front office in being able to acquire pieces to surround its star player. The argument that the Mavs don’t have assets to trade should should fall solely on Donnie Nelson, since he’s the one that brought all these guys in... but somehow it never gets back there

If agents and players truly do want to come to Dallas, it shouldn’t be this hard to go get good ones.

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Hey ejs78,

Any chance Christian Wood leaves Detroit and signs for the minimum elsewhere?

[arkuo]

The Mavs really don't have the player assets to trade as other teams do. Let's see where they are when the draft and free agency are finally over. It's easy to knee-jerk when pieces start to move and your pieces are sitting still.

+1

They gave up most, if not all of their assets on that Porzingis trade. Expiring contracts, ability to take in trash, and first rounders. You name it.

Now they have to be creative to get that 3rd scorer or 3rd star. From what's on the news, it's a SG type running mate fot Luka. Lavine, Dinwiddie, Beal or Oladipo.

[arkuo]

I also have a feeling that the Mavs are waiting on the price for Aaron Gordon to drop. Because not a single team at this point is willing to let go of their lottery pick for AG. But if they're willing to do Powell + Wright + 18 and 31 then we have something there.

The interest should be there as it was during last season's trade deadline.

[ejs78]

Its hard to say, but I think he stays.

Pistons have a new GM in Weaver, but also have a cheap dumbass owner in Gores.

Don't get me wrong Wood is much improved, but he still has ALOT of defensive lapses/maturity issues if you ask me.

They surrounded him with another player who the franchise believes is a star. In doing so they had to take on some money and give up picks. Building a team doesn't happen over night.

I live in Detroit and trust me the Mavs could be in a way worse situation with a completely incompetent FO.

They have a top 1-10 player in Luka and a near all-star in KP.

It just highlights the main faults of this front office in being able to acquire pieces to surround its star player. The argument that the Mavs don’t have assets to trade should should fall solely on Donnie Nelson, since he’s the one that brought all these guys in... but somehow it never gets back there

If agents and players truly do want to come to Dallas, it shouldn’t be this hard to go get good ones.

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Hey ejs78,

Any chance Christian Wood leaves Detroit and signs for the minimum elsewhere?

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[arkuo]

Another guy to keep still keep tabs on is Jonathan Isaac. He will miss all of the 2020 season recovering from an ACL injury. This would possibly make Orlando hesitate to sign him to a rookie-max extension. Should they fail to do so, this opens up the window for him to become RFA in 2021. He's only 23 but can defend seemingly all positions and shoot from the outside. Should flourish in the right system. That's the perfect PF to play with KP at C. If Cuban misses out on Giannis, then this guy seems a likely target more than Oladipo. Will cost a bit more to make Orlando back off.

PS: I hope Cuban has no plans to keep Powell and Kleber beyond their current deals. Another 3 to 4 year deal at 12M per year will tie the team down from making real moves.