2020 NBA Draft Discussion (18th and 31st pick)

[HMFFL]

NBAdraft.net has us taking Precious Achiuwa in the first round. A Moe Harkless / Travis Outlaw comparison.

The kid had a 22 point and 22 rebound game last week. See for yourself.

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He's solid for sure.
Our front office and scouts must be right with our picks in the upcoming draft. They have plenty of time now to watch as much College games from this season.

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[aguiar95]

Guys in our range that I think would be excellent additions:

A lot of good PGs, but too high. Rather have Brunson than trade for higher pick. I'm excluding top 10 guys because I'm not sure we can get them. The guys I feel we should draft with our 1st round pick are, in order:

1) Devin Vassell (SG/Florida State)
2) Tyler Bey (SF/Colorado)
3) Venrnon Carey Jr. (C/Duke)
4) Paul Reed (PF/DePaul)

[Darren]

NBAdraft.net has us taking Precious Achiuwa in the first round. A Moe Harkless / Travis Outlaw comparison.

The kid had a 22 point and 22 rebound game last week. See for yourself.

Watch on YouTube

He's solid for sure.
Our front office and scouts must be right with our picks in the upcoming draft. They have plenty of time now to watch as much College games from this season.

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Top few choices to me.
- Quick feet and light on feet to guard player KP cannot and play great help defense as shot-blocker
- Smart cutter in off ball situation with great athleticism
- Hit corner 3 despite still pretty much a work in process
- Strong and ready body who can guard 3/4/5 on next level
- Versatile defensively who can even guard perimeter in limited situation.

In case Hardaway left, starting Achiuwa with DFS guarding best 2/3 is perfectly fine. If not, trade down and unload either Powell or Wright with Jackson for Tyler Bey who's Marion without mucle. Then, going after FVV is also an option to me

[Darren]

Aaron Nesmith is also an interesting addition with 52% from the arc with 9 attempts per 40 mins. In case, Hardaway leaves. Nesmith might fit mightly in the same role. As the Mavs is interested in landing Giannis in 2021 with a chance Hardaway leaving in either 2020 or 2021, Nesmith might be an easy pick. Just think about having Broekhoff, Nesmith and Curry with KP and Doncic in clutch. This is either an easy layup or wide-open 3s with at least 50-60%. That's ridiculous nightmare for opposing team. Replacing Broekhoff with Giannis, then the result is even more ridiculous.

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[swaggerbox]

I really like Nesmith. He will be a perfect THJ replacement if THJ suddenly becomes very expensive for us to keep. I also like Charleston's Grant Riller. I really think he has a chance to be special in this league.

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[Darren]

1st round
1.Aaron Nesmith
2.Precious Achiuwa
3.Tyler Bey

2nd round
1.Devin Vassell
2.Nick Richards
3.CJ Elleby

To me, I am rooting for best shooters in draft. If the Mavs end up with Nesmith and Vassell, then let Hardaway go and go after FVV and call this an offseason. I would also explore the scenario that packaging Brunson with 31st for Achiuwa. I think Bey and Elleby is not ready players who might fails under RC. Picking up Richards as WCS replacement should be fine given Powell's current injury status. The 31st pick is not as valuable as I think in 2020 draft. I am fine trading up if required for Nesmith.

[Teffer10]

1st round
1.Aaron Nesmith
2.Precious Achiuwa
3.Tyler Bey

2nd round
1.Devin Vassell
2.Nick Richards
3.CJ Elleby

To me, I am rooting for best shooters in draft. If the Mavs end up with Nesmith and Vassell, then let Hardaway go and go after FVV and call this an offseason. I would also explore the scenario that packaging Brunson with 31st for Achiuwa. I think Bey and Elleby is not ready players who might fails under RC. Picking up Richards as WCS replacement should be fine given Powell's current injury status. The 31st pick is not as valuable as I think in 2020 draft. I am fine trading up if required for Nesmith.

Nesmith is a guy I think they'll regret not taking if they pass on him. He is the perfect fit with Luka....Matthews with a higher ceiling.
A Carlisle dream and I'd be absolutely shocked if they pass on him if he is there.
The only concern to me would be the severity of the foot injury.

If Nesmith and Vassell are Mavs at the end of draft night I'll be ecstatic.

I wouldn't touch Richards.

[arkuo]

Nesmith and Vassell could very well replace THJ and Courtney Lee.

Dump the rest of the available cap money into Giannis.

[ImMavsMan61]

Nesmith and Vassell could very well replace THJ and Courtney Lee.

Dump the rest of the available cap money into Giannis.

As much as I would love both Nesmith and Vassell that is probably not possible. They are both slated to go in the top 20 or so.
One could slip in the draft but 3 and D type guys are high value players in today's NBA so I expect they will both go in the top 20.

I just hope one of them is available with the Mavs first pick.

THJ is expensive and if we could find a draft pick that could replace him at lower cost that would be great. But I would really hate to see THJ go and it will take a rookie a while to get anywhere near that level.

[Darren]

Nesmith and Vassell could very well replace THJ and Courtney Lee.

Dump the rest of the available cap money into Giannis.

As much as I would love both Nesmith and Vassell that is probably not possible. They are both slated to go in the top 20 or so.
One could slip in the draft but 3 and D type guys are high value players in today's NBA so I expect they will both go in the top 20.

I just hope one of them is available with the Mavs first pick.

THJ is expensive and if we could find a draft pick that could replace him at lower cost that would be great. But I would really hate to see THJ go and it will take a rookie a while to get anywhere near that level.

Same here. I am not high on 31st selection. I am all for trading up and let Hardaway leaves. Just try to get FVV or AD with the cap room available. As the season is likely over, I expect AD to leave than staying with lebron if an appealing situation arise. Doncic and KP should be enough to make the case as Hardaway opts out as expected. The same could be true for Van Vleet who's UFA. Toronto have no clear advantage bringing back FVV. The Mavs create a very good situation to bring FVV in mix.

[Teffer10]

Nesmith and Vassell could very well replace THJ and Courtney Lee.

Dump the rest of the available cap money into Giannis.

As much as I would love both Nesmith and Vassell that is probably not possible. They are both slated to go in the top 20 or so.
One could slip in the draft but 3 and D type guys are high value players in today's NBA so I expect they will both go in the top 20.

I just hope one of them is available with the Mavs first pick.

THJ is expensive and if we could find a draft pick that could replace him at lower cost that would be great. But I would really hate to see THJ go and it will take a rookie a while to get anywhere near that level.

Yeah I don't see the Mavs getting both of them as both seem to be getting a lot of attention and moving up.
That's why I said I'd be ecstatic if the Mavs ended up with both of them.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Mavs package both picks to move up for one of them if they feel the need but man would it be sweet if both fall to them. I see both as long-term options to replace THJ, Seth and Wright.

Luka/Nesmith or Vassell/DFS/Maxi/KP/Brunson would be a nice core of youth to build around.

If we were to draft either Nesmith or Vassell I could see the Mavs re-signing THJ to have while the rookie SG develops.
Guys like Giannis and AD are pipedreams imo and the Mavs would probably do much better going after a 2nd or 3rd tier player in FA because we have our two young stars to build around anyway.
The Mavs should draft well in this draft (since we don't have many picks to trade after this season) and then sign a long-term player. Personally I think THJ has what it takes to be a 3rd option on a legit contender if there is a good enough supporting cast of role players. If we select well in this draft, and sign some nice supporting vets, I think Luka/THJ/KP would be a solid trio to put us in serious contention over the next 4 or 5 years.

[Darren]

If the Mavs include Brunson for a trade-up for Nesmith or Vassell, I think it is wise to draft Pritchard who seems to be better fit alongside the core.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/payton-pritchard/

[ImMavsMan61]

If the Mavs include Brunson for a trade-up for Nesmith or Vassell, I think it is wise to draft Pritchard who seems to be better fit alongside the core.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/payton-pritchard/

Hadn't heard much about Pritchard. If he can defend at the NBA level then he would be a great pick in the 2nd round. But not needed unless we move Brunson. Pritchard is a probably a better shooter than Brunson though Brunson had pretty good numbers in College as well.

Payton looks good in Youtube videos but who doesn't. Looks like a good solid player.

[aggerrard]

I'm high on Vassell or Nesmith as most of you - but likely have to trade up to get one of them.

I'd also like to take the chance on Markus Howard in the 2nd round - not with the Warriors pick, but maybe throw a future 2nd rounder for the draft rights to Howard if he is drafted in the 40's.

[Teffer10]

I'm high on Vassell or Nesmith as most of you - but likely have to trade up to get one of them.

I'd also like to take the chance on Markus Howard in the 2nd round - not with the Warriors pick, but maybe throw a future 2nd rounder for the draft rights to Howard if he is drafted in the 40's.

Howard would be a Carlisle dream because he would be the perfect Barea replacement.
Not sure we need him but I could see him taking off similar as Devonte Graham did last season and maybe eventually make Seth expendable if we did pick him up.
Howard can flat out score and should be able to find a home somewhere in the NBA. Probably has Isaiah Thomas potential.
I love his game TBH.

[aggerrard]

I'm high on Vassell or Nesmith as most of you - but likely have to trade up to get one of them.

I'd also like to take the chance on Markus Howard in the 2nd round - not with the Warriors pick, but maybe throw a future 2nd rounder for the draft rights to Howard if he is drafted in the 40's.

Howard would be a Carlisle dream because he would be the perfect Barea replacement.
Not sure we need him but I could see him taking off similar as Devonte Graham did last season and maybe eventually make Seth expendable if we did pick him up.
Howard can flat out score and should be able to find a home somewhere in the NBA. Probably has Isaiah Thomas potential.
I love his game TBH.

Just feel like he is one of the few players projected outside the 1st round who has the potential to be more than just a squad player - but other players are more safe choices to give you 10-15 minutes per game as a high 2nd rounder.

[arkuo]

If Aaron Nesmith is off the board when we pick, I'd be okay with

Round 1 - Isaiah Stewart
Round 2 - Devin Vassell

Stewart can be a worst case of Danny Fortson and a best case of Montrez Harrell. Some draft boards say he's undersized at 6'9, but since KP's long term position is at center, I don't mind him being 6'9. Utah has 6'6 Royce O'Neal at PF. Houston has 6'5 Tucker at center.

[Captain_Obvious]

If Aaron Nesmith is off the board when we pick, I'd be okay with

Round 1 - Isaiah Stewart
Round 2 - Devin Vassell

Stewart can be a worst case of Danny Fortson and a best case of Montrez Harrell. Some draft boards say he's undersized at 6'9, but since KP's long term position is at center, I don't mind him being 6'9. Utah has 6'6 Royce O'Neal at PF. Houston has 6'5 Tucker at center.

Every mock I saw has Vassell in the lottery.

[Raido]

If Aaron Nesmith is off the board when we pick, I'd be okay with

Round 1 - Isaiah Stewart
Round 2 - Devin Vassell

Stewart can be a worst case of Danny Fortson and a best case of Montrez Harrell. Some draft boards say he's undersized at 6'9, but since KP's long term position is at center, I don't mind him being 6'9. Utah has 6'6 Royce O'Neal at PF. Houston has 6'5 Tucker at center.

Every mock I saw has Vassell in the lottery.

Yeah, Vassel is definitely a lottery pick. Dude has real potential to become elite 3 and D player. Nesmith has some really good tools but when Mavericks have opportunity to pick Vassell with 18 pick, then he is no brainer, he is just better long term fit. I would go even as far as saying Mavericks should trade up to get him. I don't see all these teams before Mavericks like Pelican, Blazers, Magic, Timberwolves that also need good young 3 and D specialists, woun't pick Vassell.