Mavs rotation ahead of FA

[41Dirk41]

We have given quite a lot of chances to Green already, yet he still cant convince people he can be a capable rotation player. You seriously want him to start?

In RS? What is the problem?

This year, we ranked at #4 behind PHX/MEM/GSW, I don't see any of them weakened in this year, even PHX minus Ayton still a very capable team. Then we have Murray/MPJ back for DEN, Zion back for NOP, Leonard back for LAC, Davis back for LAL, Lillard for back POR. That is already 9 teams. Not to mention we still have UTAH/MIN/SAC. Only lottery team in the WEST is SAS/OKC/HOU. DAL on the other hand, have Brunson walked for free. Seriously, wont you be worry on our regular season?

Dallas is good, not for contending but enough for high seed in PO.
Wood for Powell is a huge upgrade. Very huge.

We desperatly need that Green will became a PO rotation player. Put him on the court in the first stint of the season and see what happens.
Last year we started horrible and we maked PO easily.

[Michaellam1987]

Well you can always stretch wave Powell if you fail to find a place to send him

I think the front office is taking a "wait and see" approach on Powell. Luxury tax won't count until the end of season, hence currently over the limit is fine. Later on we can see if should dump Powell by adding some minor assets to lottery team, or combine it with player like THJ/Bullock/Green/future picks etc. for talent upgrade when opportunities arise. Powell is actually our only useless expiring contract, that could be useful for salary matching purpose.

[SOUNDCHASER]

yeah I figured that out on my own almost instantly that he was an expiring but he is not my favorite player after watching how badly he played against GSW. The suggestion was born out of emotion and not reason. I want him gone yesterday. His usefulness as an expiring contract is of course valuable and needs to be utilized.

[Mavrelous]

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[Maverick41]

I heard Kidd announced the starting lineup being:

Luka
Dinwiddie
DFS
Wood
McGee

2 ball handlers and 3 finishers. Now the question becomes if your only 2 ball handlers start, who leads the 2nd unit? Pretty much nobody on the bench that has a reliable handle to run an offense.

[41Dirk41]

I heard Kidd announced the starting lineup being:

Luka
Dinwiddie
DFS
Wood
McGee

2 ball handlers and 3 finishers. Now the question becomes if your only 2 ball handlers start, who leads the 2nd unit? Pretty much nobody on the bench that has a reliable handle to run an offense.

The new guy... Mister X

[Darren]

The team plans on starting McGee, Wood and Dinwiddle.

C - McGee / Kleber / Powell
PF - Wood / Green or Bertans
SF - DFS / Bullock
SG - Dinwiddle / Hardaway / Pinson
PG - Luka / Hardy / Ntilikina

Is this the plan?

[Darren]

At this point, I am not high on starting Dinwiddle. I think this cancel out the driving lanes to Luka. And I don't think Hardy is proven enough as a PG. So is Ntilikina and Green. Unless the Mavs sign a PG, it doesn't make sense. In case, there's no 2nd handler, I think you start an elite shooter. But I am not sure the Mavs has any elite shooter since Seth Curry.

[SOUNDCHASER]

You have Woods THJ Bullock and DFS at around 40% or so might happen. You pull out McGee and Dinwiddie when you are so many minutes into the 1st quarter and that is what you run with Luka. Now you can also play that lineup with Dinwiddie as well if you wish to rest Luka in such a way that you have a murderers row of assassin level 3 point artists all in the game at the same time and that way your 2nd ball handler is able to find someone that can hit an open 3. Now if a guard that knows how to drive in open space cannot find a way to the rim or an open shooter there is something seriously wrong with that picture. McGee comes back in you rest Woods some and use DFS at PF some or Kleeber or Bertans at PF with Woods at center while McGee is resting. Maybe you rest both Woods and McGee at the same time and save what they can do for the end of the game clutch time minutes and so you even play Powell some if fouls make it a thing you need to do.

[arkuo]

At this point, I am not high on starting Dinwiddle. I think this cancel out the driving lanes to Luka. And I don't think Hardy is proven enough as a PG. So is Ntilikina and Green. Unless the Mavs sign a PG, it doesn't make sense. In case, there's no 2nd handler, I think you start an elite shooter. But I am not sure the Mavs has any elite shooter since Seth Curry.

Its not about offense. Its about defense. Starting Dinwiddie means you start a 6'5 guard that has a chance to defend the opposing starters WHILE creatimg offense at the same time. You start THJ you would be getting neither offense or shot creation. So its pick your poison. Kidd will go with the lesser evil.

[Bob8]

At this point, I am not high on starting Dinwiddle. I think this cancel out the driving lanes to Luka. And I don't think Hardy is proven enough as a PG. So is Ntilikina and Green. Unless the Mavs sign a PG, it doesn't make sense. In case, there's no 2nd handler, I think you start an elite shooter. But I am not sure the Mavs has any elite shooter since Seth Curry.

Its not about offense. Its about defense. Starting Dinwiddie means you start a 6'5 guard that has a chance to defend the opposing starters WHILE creatimg offense at the same time. You start THJ you would be getting neither offense or shot creation. So its pick your poison. Kidd will go with the lesser evil.

Dinwiddie makes perfect sense to me, but they should bring another Pg in that case. Playing Wood on 4 doesn't. The biggest advantage Wood brings is spacing the floor and playing great pick&roll with Luka. Playing McGee on 5 might bring you better D, but offense will suffer a lot. Having Mcgee as starting 5 C might be better than Powell, but he's still only backup C.

Talking about Luka playing more off ball is funny, knowing that they have lost only other creator in the team.

[Bob8]

The team plans on starting McGee, Wood and Dinwiddle.

C - McGee / Kleber / Powell
PF - Wood / Green or Bertans
SF - DFS / Bullock
SG - Dinwiddle / Hardaway / Pinson
PG - Luka / Hardy / Ntilikina

Is this the plan?

No. Luka and Dinwiddie will start, after 6 minutes Dinwiddie will go out, being replaced by Bullock/THJ, and Luka will finish Q alone. In Q2 Dinwiddie and new guard, (Dorsey), start. Hardy is behind THJ, Bullock and new guard. He will need to wait for some injuries.

[arkuo]

At this point, I am not high on starting Dinwiddle. I think this cancel out the driving lanes to Luka. And I don't think Hardy is proven enough as a PG. So is Ntilikina and Green. Unless the Mavs sign a PG, it doesn't make sense. In case, there's no 2nd handler, I think you start an elite shooter. But I am not sure the Mavs has any elite shooter since Seth Curry.

Its not about offense. Its about defense. Starting Dinwiddie means you start a 6'5 guard that has a chance to defend the opposing starters WHILE creatimg offense at the same time. You start THJ you would be getting neither offense or shot creation. So its pick your poison. Kidd will go with the lesser evil.

Dinwiddie makes perfect sense to me, but they should bring another Pg in that case. Playing Wood on 4 doesn't. The biggest advantage Wood brings is spacing the floor and playing great pick&roll with Luka. Playing McGee on 5 might bring you better D, but offense will suffer a lot. Having Mcgee as starting 5 C might be better than Powell, but he's still only backup C.

Talking about Luka playing more off ball is funny, knowing that they have lost only other creator in the team.

I have a feeling they will start Mcgee to get easier points on the board to start the game. No need to start the first quarter with 8 Luka Doncic step back threes IMO. Dinwiddie can set up lobs off the pick and roll. This allows Luka to conserve his energy and focus on closing the game. I do not think Mcgee closes the game. The transition will probably be to move Wood to center and have both DFS and Bullock on the court for a closing lineup. Obviously 4th quarter is when you want Doncic to have the ball.

[Bob8]

Its not about offense. Its about defense. Starting Dinwiddie means you start a 6'5 guard that has a chance to defend the opposing starters WHILE creatimg offense at the same time. You start THJ you would be getting neither offense or shot creation. So its pick your poison. Kidd will go with the lesser evil.

Dinwiddie makes perfect sense to me, but they should bring another Pg in that case. Playing Wood on 4 doesn't. The biggest advantage Wood brings is spacing the floor and playing great pick&roll with Luka. Playing McGee on 5 might bring you better D, but offense will suffer a lot. Having Mcgee as starting 5 C might be better than Powell, but he's still only backup C.

Talking about Luka playing more off ball is funny, knowing that they have lost only other creator in the team.

I have a feeling they will start Mcgee to get easier points on the board to start the game. No need to start the first quarter with 8 Luka Doncic step back threes IMO. Dinwiddie can set up lobs off the pick and roll. This allows Luka to conserve his energy and focus on closing the game. I do not think Mcgee closes the game. The transition will probably be to move Wood to center and have both DFS and Bullock on the court for a closing lineup. Obviously 4th quarter is when you want Doncic to have the ball.

I admit that I didn't watch Mcgee much, but he looks to me only like upgrade on Powell defensively. Playing him much more than 15 minutes looks too much for me. What do you do with Kleber, if Wood will be most of the time on 4? I'm sure that Kleber is much better defender than Wood.

[arkuo]

Dinwiddie makes perfect sense to me, but they should bring another Pg in that case. Playing Wood on 4 doesn't. The biggest advantage Wood brings is spacing the floor and playing great pick&roll with Luka. Playing McGee on 5 might bring you better D, but offense will suffer a lot. Having Mcgee as starting 5 C might be better than Powell, but he's still only backup C.

Talking about Luka playing more off ball is funny, knowing that they have lost only other creator in the team.

I have a feeling they will start Mcgee to get easier points on the board to start the game. No need to start the first quarter with 8 Luka Doncic step back threes IMO. Dinwiddie can set up lobs off the pick and roll. This allows Luka to conserve his energy and focus on closing the game. I do not think Mcgee closes the game. The transition will probably be to move Wood to center and have both DFS and Bullock on the court for a closing lineup. Obviously 4th quarter is when you want Doncic to have the ball.

I admit that I didn't watch Mcgee much, but he looks to me only like upgrade on Powell defensively. Playing him much more than 15 minutes looks too much for me. What do you do with Kleber, if Wood will be most of the time on 4? I'm sure that Kleber is much better defender than Wood.

I think Kleber minutes will get limited. He is a Donnie Nelson hire, his contract expires next year and he will be pitted against a 26 year old Christian Wood who is 5 years younger. I think a lot of it would depend on which direction Nico and Kidd want to go. It's a new management. They will naturally want to bring their boys in I would think.

[Bob8]

I have a feeling they will start Mcgee to get easier points on the board to start the game. No need to start the first quarter with 8 Luka Doncic step back threes IMO. Dinwiddie can set up lobs off the pick and roll. This allows Luka to conserve his energy and focus on closing the game. I do not think Mcgee closes the game. The transition will probably be to move Wood to center and have both DFS and Bullock on the court for a closing lineup. Obviously 4th quarter is when you want Doncic to have the ball.

I admit that I didn't watch Mcgee much, but he looks to me only like upgrade on Powell defensively. Playing him much more than 15 minutes looks too much for me. What do you do with Kleber, if Wood will be most of the time on 4? I'm sure that Kleber is much better defender than Wood.

I think Kleber minutes will get limited. He is a Donnie Nelson hire, his contract expires next year and he will be pitted against a 26 year old Christian Wood who is 5 years younger. I think a lot of it would depend on which direction Nico and Kidd want to go. It's a new management. They will naturally want to bring their boys in I would think.

But that's stupid, they will just tank Kleber's value. If Wood is really solution on 4, which I doubt, they should trade Kleber this off-season.

[arkuo]

I admit that I didn't watch Mcgee much, but he looks to me only like upgrade on Powell defensively. Playing him much more than 15 minutes looks too much for me. What do you do with Kleber, if Wood will be most of the time on 4? I'm sure that Kleber is much better defender than Wood.

I think Kleber minutes will get limited. He is a Donnie Nelson hire, his contract expires next year and he will be pitted against a 26 year old Christian Wood who is 5 years younger. I think a lot of it would depend on which direction Nico and Kidd want to go. It's a new management. They will naturally want to bring their boys in I would think.

But that's stupid, they will just tank Kleber's value. If Wood is really solution on 4, which I doubt, they should trade Kleber this off-season.

It won't be the first dumb thing they do.

Dragic was right there for the taking yet they preferred this Dorsey guy from Europe.

[arkuo]

I admit that I didn't watch Mcgee much, but he looks to me only like upgrade on Powell defensively. Playing him much more than 15 minutes looks too much for me. What do you do with Kleber, if Wood will be most of the time on 4? I'm sure that Kleber is much better defender than Wood.

I think Kleber minutes will get limited. He is a Donnie Nelson hire, his contract expires next year and he will be pitted against a 26 year old Christian Wood who is 5 years younger. I think a lot of it would depend on which direction Nico and Kidd want to go. It's a new management. They will naturally want to bring their boys in I would think.

But that's stupid, they will just tank Kleber's value. If Wood is really solution on 4, which I doubt, they should trade Kleber this off-season.

If Mcgee can get fast points early in the game, I think that is beneficial for the team. Then he sits and Wood takes over at center late in the game when the team transitions to go small. Especially towards the playoffs.

[arkuo]

I think the overall goal is to balance out the scoring. Last season, 90% of the points came from guards. With DFS, Bullock and Kleber only averaging like 8 pts per game. This season, maybe Kidd wants to spread out the scoring so you get like 15ppg from Wood and a couple more from the center position with Mcgee. That way the guards are not overloaded and the whole team just stands around and watches Luka dribble from left to right. You got more ways to score than just waiting for a pass from the point guard. Which is why I'm also in favor for expanded roles for THJ and Dinwiddie. Get the ball to the rim and maybe get a foul or two rather than just standing around outside the 3 point line.