RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Suns (Oct. 19, 10PM EST)

[BliscoSantos]

Embarassing loss against Lee and Payne. OMG what a shame.

McGee and Green were awful, Kidd was worse... How can Kleber play more minutes than Wood??? bull.

With Luka out we are very bad. Hope in Facu.

The team was -16 when Luka was on the floor. They played noticeably better without him on both sides. Did we watch the same game? Luka was overall bad, especially on defence which he didnt even try until the last 2-3 min.

Luka was terrible in second half...i hope someone jas the balls to tell him he has to at least try on D(show at least some effort)

[Archx]

Mavs already in peak Rick Carlisle form. Build up a huge lead and then stop playing for the last 25% of the game

[Absinthe]

Wood is probably the best big that Luka has ever played with, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money. It’s imperative that they find someone who can take the ball to the basket once the opposing defense blitzes Luka. They need a ball handler who can create his own shot badly. I think Steve Kerr probably exposed this team last year and figured out how to slow Luka. But that strategy only works when Dallas doesn’t have another player on the floor who can create his own shot. In short, Wood is a huge jump from Powell, but THJ is a huge downgrade from Brunson. It’s a wash. I also have no idea why McGee was signed.

[Bob8]

Wood is probably the best big that Luka has ever played with, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money. It’s imperative that they find someone who can take the ball to the basket once the opposing defense blitzes Luka. They need a ball handler who can create his own shot badly. I think Steve Kerr probably exposed this team last year and figured out how to slow Luka. But that strategy only works when Dallas doesn’t have another player on the floor who can create his own shot. In short, Wood is a huge jump from Powell, but THJ is a huge downgrade from Brunson. It’s a wash. I also have no idea why McGee was signed.

Losing Brunson is huge, because there is nobody, who can replace his role. And all this will be even more evident in those 15-20 games Luka and Dinwiddie will miss. Mavs have too many players, who can do only 1 thing in offense or D.

[Mavrelous]

Wood is probably the best big that Luka has ever played with, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money. It’s imperative that they find someone who can take the ball to the basket once the opposing defense blitzes Luka. They need a ball handler who can create his own shot badly. I think Steve Kerr probably exposed this team last year and figured out how to slow Luka. But that strategy only works when Dallas doesn’t have another player on the floor who can create his own shot. In short, Wood is a huge jump from Powell, but THJ is a huge downgrade from Brunson. It’s a wash. I also have no idea why McGee was signed.

The game was lost when they allowed 62 points second half on defense, but yeah the offense did take a major blow once Dinwiddie went to the bench and THJ started hero ball, Brunson would've continued the assault.
I liked Wood a lot, he fit seemlessly within the offense, had a few bad passes but other than that, he was great, the lineup of Wood + Kleber played really well, Kleber was +20 in halftime, I'd extend him if he keeps it up for 2 months, Wood at 20/yr is a good player to have.

[41Dirk41]

Green wasn't awful. He didn't shoot but he definitely had some impact on the floor with his activity and defense. McGee on the otherhand was 100% atrocious.

He did show energy on D but that's not enough when you're a total nonthreat on O..with him on the flor it's 4 vs 5 and teams can easily double the Mavs

Terrible. Nothing changed than last year. Hype is definetely gone for him.
I will not surprise if Facu or Bertans will play more minutes than him in the future.

Kidd screwed us, it's time to play the best players on the roster not friends or someone who we promised the starting spot.
I'm sick and tired of playing 4vs5 or 3vs5, last 2 years with Powell were enough.
Wood has to play 30+ minutes a game every night.

Suns bench is one of the worst in the league and they beat us.

That's not a L, that's a disaster.

[41Dirk41]

Wood is probably the best big that Luka has ever played with, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money. It’s imperative that they find someone who can take the ball to the basket once the opposing defense blitzes Luka. They need a ball handler who can create his own shot badly. I think Steve Kerr probably exposed this team last year and figured out how to slow Luka. But that strategy only works when Dallas doesn’t have another player on the floor who can create his own shot. In short, Wood is a huge jump from Powell, but THJ is a huge downgrade from Brunson. It’s a wash. I also have no idea why McGee was signed.

The game was lost when they allowed 62 points second half on defense, but yeah the offense did take a major blow once Dinwiddie went to the bench and THJ started hero ball, Brunson would've continued the assault.
I liked Wood a lot, he fit seemlessly within the offense, had a few bad passes but other than that, he was great, the lineup of Wood + Kleber played really well, Kleber was +20 in halftime, I'd extend him if he keeps it up for 2 months, Wood at 20/yr is a good player to have.

Every NBA team can have a 62point half, every team have talent to do that.
The problem is that we stopped to play and score, Wood was the only hot guy on the floor for us and Kidd benched him.
Kleber is an offensive no factor 9 game of 10, he can't play over Wood. Someone could say "ok but he play defense" but we allowed 62 points in a half. What defense???

Let's play the better players, only that. Please.

[ejs78]

Brunson is gone????

When did that happen???

Hopefully the Mavs can save their season by winning game 2

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[daoneandonly]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

[ejs78]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

Who might that be you are referring to?

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[Mavrelous]

Wood is probably the best big that Luka has ever played with, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money. It’s imperative that they find someone who can take the ball to the basket once the opposing defense blitzes Luka. They need a ball handler who can create his own shot badly. I think Steve Kerr probably exposed this team last year and figured out how to slow Luka. But that strategy only works when Dallas doesn’t have another player on the floor who can create his own shot. In short, Wood is a huge jump from Powell, but THJ is a huge downgrade from Brunson. It’s a wash. I also have no idea why McGee was signed.

The game was lost when they allowed 62 points second half on defense, but yeah the offense did take a major blow once Dinwiddie went to the bench and THJ started hero ball, Brunson would've continued the assault.
I liked Wood a lot, he fit seemlessly within the offense, had a few bad passes but other than that, he was great, the lineup of Wood + Kleber played really well, Kleber was +20 in halftime, I'd extend him if he keeps it up for 2 months, Wood at 20/yr is a good player to have.

Every NBA team can have a 62point half, every team have talent to do that.
The problem is that we stopped to play and score, Wood was the only hot guy on the floor for us and Kidd benched him.
Kleber is an offensive no factor 9 game of 10, he can't play over Wood. Someone could say "ok but he play defense" but we allowed 62 points in a half. What defense???

Let's play the better players, only that. Please.

I don't have the stats, but I think the best lineup was with Wood + Kleber together on the floor.

[41Dirk41]

The game was lost when they allowed 62 points second half on defense, but yeah the offense did take a major blow once Dinwiddie went to the bench and THJ started hero ball, Brunson would've continued the assault.
I liked Wood a lot, he fit seemlessly within the offense, had a few bad passes but other than that, he was great, the lineup of Wood + Kleber played really well, Kleber was +20 in halftime, I'd extend him if he keeps it up for 2 months, Wood at 20/yr is a good player to have.

Every NBA team can have a 62point half, every team have talent to do that.
The problem is that we stopped to play and score, Wood was the only hot guy on the floor for us and Kidd benched him.
Kleber is an offensive no factor 9 game of 10, he can't play over Wood. Someone could say "ok but he play defense" but we allowed 62 points in a half. What defense???

Let's play the better players, only that. Please.

I don't have the stats, but I think the best lineup was with Wood + Kleber together on the floor.

I'm ok with those 2 together on the floor, i only said that Wood must be on the floor when our offense is stagnant.

If Kidd wants to play with Bullock, DFS and Kleber then the other 2 guys on the floor have to be elite offensive players. No less than Luka and Wood.
THJ and SD are too streaky.

The Suns were yet mentally weak from last PO series against us.
Ok it's only the 1 game of the season but we should have destroy them. Not give them a come back win.

Probably last evening i was too hard on Green, he defended well on the ball but we play 4vs5 on the offensive end with him on the floor.
We all expected a huge leap from him maybe too much.

[Bob8]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

It's funny how difficult is to understand, why Brunson was so important. He was instant replacement for Luka, when he was out, having bad game or blitzed. They were not great fit because of D, but having someone to generate offense was for sure great +.

[41Dirk41]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

It's funny how difficult is to understand, why Brunson was so important. He was instant replacement for Luka, when he was out, having bad game or blitzed. They were not great fit because of D, but having someone to generate offense was for sure great +.

Don't feed the troll(s).

[Bob8]

Brunson is gone????

When did that happen???

Hopefully the Mavs can save their season by winning game 2

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Great contribution as always. I wonder why are you losing your precious time for basketball analphabets?

[Archx]

The game was lost when they allowed 62 points second half on defense, but yeah the offense did take a major blow once Dinwiddie went to the bench and THJ started hero ball, Brunson would've continued the assault.
I liked Wood a lot, he fit seemlessly within the offense, had a few bad passes but other than that, he was great, the lineup of Wood + Kleber played really well, Kleber was +20 in halftime, I'd extend him if he keeps it up for 2 months, Wood at 20/yr is a good player to have.

Every NBA team can have a 62point half, every team have talent to do that.
The problem is that we stopped to play and score, Wood was the only hot guy on the floor for us and Kidd benched him.
Kleber is an offensive no factor 9 game of 10, he can't play over Wood. Someone could say "ok but he play defense" but we allowed 62 points in a half. What defense???

Let's play the better players, only that. Please.

I don't have the stats, but I think the best lineup was with Wood + Kleber together on the floor.

Best pure +/- lineup was T. Hardaway Jr. - S. Dinwiddie - D. Finney-Smith - M. Kleber - J. Green. +9 and 11pts

Then 2nd best was R. Bullock - T. Hardaway Jr. - C. Wood - M. Kleber - L. Doncic +5 and 17pts. But looking at pure impact, shooting/rebounding/defense and prolonged minutes, this actually was their best lineup.

And even when you go further down common positive factor was Wood. Why Kidd took him out of the game is puzzling. Mavs are a better team on paper specially because of bench and Kidd somehow managed to screw it up.

[dirkdiggler4177]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

Brunson and Luka never played off each other. The problem was Brunson plays in the high post, the same place as Luka. There is also a big advantage of not having Brunson on the floor. The Mavs do not need to hide both him and Luka. When they play 3 perimeter defenders plus Kleber and Luka you got a hell of a defense and a lot of spacing on offense.

[ejs78]

Brunson is gone????

When did that happen???

Hopefully the Mavs can save their season by winning game 2

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Great contribution as always. I wonder why are you losing your precious time for basketball analphabets?

Bob,

I missed you. Maybe you can tell me if Brunson is gone.

What about Nash is he gone too?

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[Bob8]

It's funny how the guy that keeps bringing up Brunson was the same guy who last year kept insisting Luka dn Brunson can't play together.

Terrible close out, it happens. They got complacent. It's easy to focus on the bad: Wood missed way too many FT's, McGee is not a starter, THJ is too streaky, and Josh Green is garbage, but there were plenty of good things to take away too.

Brunson and Luka never played off each other. The problem was Brunson plays in the high post, the same place as Luka. There is also a big advantage of not having Brunson on the floor. The Mavs do not need to hide both him and Luka. When they play 3 perimeter defenders plus Kleber and Luka you got a hell of a defense and a lot of spacing on offense.

And what is the solution, when opponents blitz Luka and you have 4 totally untalented ball handlers on the court, who can't create for themselves or others?

[Mavrelous]

Every NBA team can have a 62point half, every team have talent to do that.
The problem is that we stopped to play and score, Wood was the only hot guy on the floor for us and Kidd benched him.
Kleber is an offensive no factor 9 game of 10, he can't play over Wood. Someone could say "ok but he play defense" but we allowed 62 points in a half. What defense???

Let's play the better players, only that. Please.

I don't have the stats, but I think the best lineup was with Wood + Kleber together on the floor.

Best pure +/- lineup was T. Hardaway Jr. - S. Dinwiddie - D. Finney-Smith - M. Kleber - J. Green. +9 and 11pts

Then 2nd best was R. Bullock - T. Hardaway Jr. - C. Wood - M. Kleber - L. Doncic +5 and 17pts. But looking at pure impact, shooting/rebounding/defense and prolonged minutes, this actually was their best lineup.

And even when you go further down common positive factor was Wood. Why Kidd took him out of the game is puzzling. Mavs are a better team on paper specially because of bench and Kidd somehow managed to screw it up.

I think it's very simple, when the game got close, he was afraid to put weak FT shooter in, and he trusted the guys that played the team 7 games in the PO in May.
It's a very disappointing loss, but lots of good came out of it, the glaring bad thing is what we expected, the moment Dinwiddie goes to bench, Luka is much easier to blitz, I think Wood can be a good release valve until a good player comes along.