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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#61 » by leolozon » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:34 am

KhalilS wrote:Just woke up, disappointing loss, up 16 with 5 minutes to go.


4 min. The Mavs could have just let the clock expire on all their possessions and they would have won.

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#62 » by Mavrelous » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:39 am

This is the "Locked On" podcast, I rarely listen to it because while Nick is a nice, fun and pleasant guy, the podcast is heavily skewed towards the FO and the team, and is really never critical of it, because they want access to press conferences and media days, yet, even Nick was critical of Kidd, this should tell you something


I love what Kidd did with the team defense, never in my wildest dreams I imagined the turn around he brought, but his lack of accountability over team's failure last year and now, and constant blaming of the players is a recipe for disaster.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#63 » by leolozon » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:46 am

KhalilS wrote:This is the "Locked On" podcast, I rarely listen to it because while Nick is a nice, fun and pleasant guy, the podcast is heavily skewed towards the FO and the team, and is really never critical of it, because they want access to press conferences and media days, yet, even Nick was critical of Kidd, this should tell you something


I love what Kidd did with the team defense, never in my wildest dreams I imagined the turn around he brought, but his lack of accountability over team's failure last year and now, and constant blaming of the players is a recipe for disaster.


Yeah, I was listening to it and thought it was insufferable this season with all the "everything is fine" and laughin at fans for being pissed about the start.

They lost 3 games in the 4th and the rotations have been dumb.

I still think the team could potentially be 5-0 with Wood playing 35mpg. You enable your second best offensive player or don't trade for him.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#64 » by Archx » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:51 am

Which is more concerning?

When Doncic has a good game, they still lose......

....when he has a bad game, there is no one to pick it up for him and make something happen....

or, that Kidd has no clue what to do with this roster now that Brunson is gone and has Wood who at times looks even better than KP?


I would vote for all 3 :dontknow:

Green 15 mins +25 for the game, 4 stls, a lot of energy... yes sub him out and leave Bullock in for 38 mins doing nothing -20. Luka and Kidd were a disaster class this game, but outcoaching only Nash so far doesn't sound good.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#65 » by leolozon » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:56 am

KhalilS wrote:Kidd needs to stop the bitter passive-aggressive comments in press conferences, or he'll find himself with toxic locker room very soon.
It's a 2-3 start and easy schedule ahead, not the time to start throwing people under the bus.


What did he say? I refuse to listen to his press conferences, it's always someone else's fault and he can't seem to see what he does wrong.

Even last year when Bullock wasn't playing at the start of the season, when he was asked about it he said : "I'm sorry if you think he should play more." He should have played more! He was wrong and was being an a**hole about it.

He's the opposite of Luka who's at least quick to blame himself.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#66 » by Mavrelous » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:59 am

leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Kidd needs to stop the bitter passive-aggressive comments in press conferences, or he'll find himself with toxic locker room very soon.
It's a 2-3 start and easy schedule ahead, not the time to start throwing people under the bus.


What did he say? I refuse to listen to his press conferences, it's always someone else's fault and he can't seem to see what he does wrong.

Even last year when Bullock wasn't playing at the start of the season, when he was asked about it he said : "I'm sorry if you think he should play more." He should have played more! He was wrong and was being an a**hole about it.

He's the opposite of Luka who's at least quick to blame himself.


He said that he played Wood the whole 4th quarter and it didn't help, clearly, referencing criticism over benching him in NOP game.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#67 » by Bob8 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:01 am

Archx wrote:Which is more concerning?

When Doncic has a good game, they still lose......

....when he has a bad game, there is no one to pick it up for him and make something happen....

or, that Kidd has no clue what to do with this roster now that Brunson is gone and has Wood who at times looks even better than KP?


I would vote for all 3 :dontknow:

Green 15 mins +25 for the game, 4 stls, a lot of energy... yes sub him out and leave Bullock in for 38 mins doing nothing -20. Luka and Kidd were a disaster class this game, but outcoaching only Nash so far doesn't sound good.


Luka had 9 assists early in 3rd and has finished with 10 after playing another 15+ minutes. Nobody could hit anything playing with him and he couldn't hit anything himself, I kinda doubt Green would have changed that. Luka needs another creator besides him, when things are not going like yesterday. All games played this year show how essential Brunson was for Mavs' success. Finding another creator will be crucial for Mavs going forward. Mavs are playing RS games like it's playoffs already, Luka will be spent before Christmas.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#68 » by Darren » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:29 am

I won't surprise me at all if Kidd gets hated by the players and worn out of welcome by the end of this month.

Am I the only one who think Luka fits uptempo game more than a slow pace tempo?
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#69 » by Darren » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:30 am

The Mavs needs athletic players in rotation rather badly. I don't think it is good to bet heavily on long jumpers.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#70 » by Maverick41 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:33 am

KhalilS wrote:He said that he played Wood the whole 4th quarter and it didn't help, clearly, referencing criticism over benching him in NOP game.

Let me add more context to this. Kidd unpromptly while smirking to the media said "But you guys didn't ask me the question I was waiting for." He said this after a media member asked him what he thought of his closing rotation.

Multiple media members then asked "what question is that?" He then talks about how Wood was left in the 4th quarter and he didn't play well on both ends.

This was clearly Kidd saying "I tried what you want and look it didn't work so don't blame me" type thing. Very disappointing.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#71 » by XTraderXL » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:40 am

leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Kidd needs to stop the bitter passive-aggressive comments in press conferences, or he'll find himself with toxic locker room very soon.
It's a 2-3 start and easy schedule ahead, not the time to start throwing people under the bus.


What did he say? I refuse to listen to his press conferences, it's always someone else's fault and he can't seem to see what he does wrong.

Even last year when Bullock wasn't playing at the start of the season, when he was asked about it he said : "I'm sorry if you think he should play more." He should have played more! He was wrong and was being an a**hole about it.

He's the opposite of Luka who's at least quick to blame himself.


Luka always has a generic answer so taking blame means pretty much nothing. He is like a robot up there, no charisma, no thoughtful comments, no personality.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#72 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:47 am

Kidd is a good coach. Not the one who can win a title.
We all knew that.
Nets knew that.
Bucks knew that.
Lakers knew that.

We are not a contender right now, so Kidd is good for our situation.
FO has more faults than Kidd for this s**t.

We need talent, Wood is a good start but he is not enough.
No surprise that Dallas can lost against everyone.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#73 » by Bob8 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:54 am

XTraderXL wrote:
leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Kidd needs to stop the bitter passive-aggressive comments in press conferences, or he'll find himself with toxic locker room very soon.
It's a 2-3 start and easy schedule ahead, not the time to start throwing people under the bus.


What did he say? I refuse to listen to his press conferences, it's always someone else's fault and he can't seem to see what he does wrong.

Even last year when Bullock wasn't playing at the start of the season, when he was asked about it he said : "I'm sorry if you think he should play more." He should have played more! He was wrong and was being an a**hole about it.

He's the opposite of Luka who's at least quick to blame himself.


Luka always has a generic answer so taking blame means pretty much nothing. He is like a robot up there, no charisma, no thoughtful comments, no personality.


You might be his biggest hater from Slovenia. ;)

All his good or bad games means very little for his legacy. He will be judged only on his ability to win titles. Impossible to make any good predictions about that at the moment. Nobody can win anything with these roster. Maybe we're taking this season too seriously. The same goes for Kidd, he can't do miracles with this very average roster.
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Post#74 » by XTraderXL » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:15 pm

Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
leolozon wrote:
What did he say? I refuse to listen to his press conferences, it's always someone else's fault and he can't seem to see what he does wrong.

Even last year when Bullock wasn't playing at the start of the season, when he was asked about it he said : "I'm sorry if you think he should play more." He should have played more! He was wrong and was being an a**hole about it.

He's the opposite of Luka who's at least quick to blame himself.


Luka always has a generic answer so taking blame means pretty much nothing. He is like a robot up there, no charisma, no thoughtful comments, no personality.


You might be his biggest hater from Slovenia. ;)

All his good or bad games means very little for his legacy. He will be judged only on his ability to win titles. Impossible to make any good predictions about that at the moment. Nobody can win anything with these roster. Maybe we're taking this season too seriously. The same goes for Kidd, he can't do miracles with this very average roster.


Am I wrong though? I havent heard anyone ever accuse Luka of being an interesting person.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#75 » by Bob8 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:25 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Luka always has a generic answer so taking blame means pretty much nothing. He is like a robot up there, no charisma, no thoughtful comments, no personality.


You might be his biggest hater from Slovenia. ;)

All his good or bad games means very little for his legacy. He will be judged only on his ability to win titles. Impossible to make any good predictions about that at the moment. Nobody can win anything with these roster. Maybe we're taking this season too seriously. The same goes for Kidd, he can't do miracles with this very average roster.


Am I wrong though? I havent heard anyone ever accuse Luka of being an interesting person.


Luka is still a kid, protégé who got everything on the silver plate. He was praised from his young age. He will need to become a man to win titles. Maybe 1 difficult season could be for his benefit. Problem in Nba is that coaches are cuddling stars, he would have been benched in Europe in last Q playing like that and Mavs would have won.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#76 » by Mavrelous » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:31 pm

Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You might be his biggest hater from Slovenia. ;)

All his good or bad games means very little for his legacy. He will be judged only on his ability to win titles. Impossible to make any good predictions about that at the moment. Nobody can win anything with these roster. Maybe we're taking this season too seriously. The same goes for Kidd, he can't do miracles with this very average roster.


Am I wrong though? I havent heard anyone ever accuse Luka of being an interesting person.


Luka is still a kid, protégé who got everything on the silver plate. He was praised from his young age. He will need to become a man to win titles. Maybe 1 difficult season could be for his benefit. Problem in Nba is that coaches are cuddling stars, he would have been benched in Europe in last Q playing like that and Mavs would have won.


It's actually very impressive that he made it to 23 w/o any scandal.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#77 » by HMFFL » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:32 pm

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished Saturday's win over the Mavericks with 38 points (15-of-27 FGs, 8-of-8 FTs), six rebounds, nine assists, two steals, and one block in 41 minutes. 

What a night for SGA and the Thunder, who trailed Dallas by 16 with 5:41 remaining in regulation. Gilgeous-Alexander's floater with 4:35 remaining sparked a 20-4 run to end regulation, with Oklahoma City finishing the deal in overtime. OKC doesn't have the most talented roster, but they've got an emerging star in SGA. Provided he doesn't get shut down at some point, Gilgeous-Alexander is an incredible asset for managers who have him rostered. Oklahoma City plays three games next week with no back-to-backs; hopefully, SGA won't be at risk of having to sit for load management reasons. 

Oct 29, 2022, 11:51 PM ET

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Thunder (Oct. 29, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#78 » by XTraderXL » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:39 pm

Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You might be his biggest hater from Slovenia. ;)

All his good or bad games means very little for his legacy. He will be judged only on his ability to win titles. Impossible to make any good predictions about that at the moment. Nobody can win anything with these roster. Maybe we're taking this season too seriously. The same goes for Kidd, he can't do miracles with this very average roster.


Am I wrong though? I havent heard anyone ever accuse Luka of being an interesting person.


Luka is still a kid, protégé who got everything on the silver plate. He was praised from his young age. He will need to become a man to win titles. Maybe 1 difficult season could be for his benefit. Problem in Nba is that coaches are cuddling stars, he would have been benched in Europe in last Q playing like that and Mavs would have won.


I think your mean prodigy.
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Post#79 » by Bob8 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:43 pm

KhalilS wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Am I wrong though? I havent heard anyone ever accuse Luka of being an interesting person.


Luka is still a kid, protégé who got everything on the silver plate. He was praised from his young age. He will need to become a man to win titles. Maybe 1 difficult season could be for his benefit. Problem in Nba is that coaches are cuddling stars, he would have been benched in Europe in last Q playing like that and Mavs would have won.


It's actually very impressive that he made it to 23 w/o any scandal.


He's basically living a kid's life still. His girlfriend is a sweetheart from his youth. He's going in vacation in the same place for last 15 years. People around him are more or less the same...Money really doesn't mean much to him.
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Post#80 » by XTraderXL » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:53 pm

Bob8 wrote:
KhalilS wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Luka is still a kid, protégé who got everything on the silver plate. He was praised from his young age. He will need to become a man to win titles. Maybe 1 difficult season could be for his benefit. Problem in Nba is that coaches are cuddling stars, he would have been benched in Europe in last Q playing like that and Mavs would have won.


It's actually very impressive that he made it to 23 w/o any scandal.


He's basically leaving a kid's life still. His girlfriend is a sweetheart from his youth. He's going in vacation in the same place for last 15 years. People around him are more or less the same...Money really doesn't mean much to him.



That would explain all the baby fat on him.

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