RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Thunder (Frid 8.30PM EST)

[Mavrelous]

This is the 1st video I see of Luka applying pressure on his calf, looks like he's nearing his return

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[Doranku]

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[GermanFan120]

I know this is all trivial, but man I needed this win for the team. 2025 has really beaten me down personally, so small things like this helps

Stay strong brother. All the best to you!

[joesha1698]

Seriously, does Klay bring anything to the table? His big stat games are all losses. We can't pretend like this is the klay of old and give him starter minutes he doesn't deserve

Your a starter as much as the next guy isnt. His job is to space the court and knock down shots. Make smart decisions with the ball and play adequate defense. Grimes is younger but he has his issues as well. Grimes isnt playing that much better and when Lukai is in te lineup - we really do not need much from the guard spot. I think the issue is we just need 1 more legit big time player. Even Lebron had Wade and Bosh. They had 2 superstars and a legit allstar in bosh.

I think we're still 1 move away from a legit big 3.

Note: As much as I like PJ, Gafford, Klay, you can keep them all this year for a ncie sign and trade for a guy you like. Even a guy like Miles Turner is up for consideration. Not how well he works with Lively. But just saying. We can use our contracts to get better if we want to.

You got 38 million in expiring contracts between Gafford, PJ, and Maxi.

[GermanFan120]

This is the 1st video I see of Luka applying pressure on his calf, looks like he's nearing his return

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Looks pretty fat.

[GermanFan120]

Seriously, does Klay bring anything to the table? His big stat games are all losses. We can't pretend like this is the klay of old and give him starter minutes he doesn't deserve

I keep saying this, and people keep giving him passes because of his name.

[daoneandonly]

I know this is all trivial, but man I needed this win for the team. 2025 has really beaten me down personally, so small things like this helps

Stay strong brother. All the best to you!

Appreciate it, thanks

[joesha1698]

Seriously, does Klay bring anything to the table? His big stat games are all losses. We can't pretend like this is the klay of old and give him starter minutes he doesn't deserve

I keep saying this, and people keep giving him passes because of his name.

He's shooting 38% from the 3. His defense is adequate. He's getting 27 minutes a game and Grimes is getting 22. What more can really be done? Do you want to see Klay's minutes cut down more?

[GermanFan120]

Seriously, does Klay bring anything to the table? His big stat games are all losses. We can't pretend like this is the klay of old and give him starter minutes he doesn't deserve

I keep saying this, and people keep giving him passes because of his name.

He's shooting 38% from the 3. His defense is adequate. He's getting 27 minutes a game and Grimes is getting 22. What more can really be done? Do you want to see Klay's minutes cut down more?

Every time Klay is mentioned, people bring up stats. To me, Klay doesn't pass the eye test to bring the team to the next level, plain and simple.

[joesha1698]

I keep saying this, and people keep giving him passes because of his name.

He's shooting 38% from the 3. His defense is adequate. He's getting 27 minutes a game and Grimes is getting 22. What more can really be done? Do you want to see Klay's minutes cut down more?

Every time Klay is mentioned, people bring up stats. To me, Klay doesn't pass the eye test to bring the team to the next level, plain and simple.

I agree that Klay's conditioning, finishing at the basket, and decision making could be better. My issue is, what other options do we have at the 2? We can bring Klay off the bench but what does that solve? I think its GS all over again and he's gonna pout.

[41Dirk41]

He's shooting 38% from the 3. His defense is adequate. He's getting 27 minutes a game and Grimes is getting 22. What more can really be done? Do you want to see Klay's minutes cut down more?

Every time Klay is mentioned, people bring up stats. To me, Klay doesn't pass the eye test to bring the team to the next level, plain and simple.

I agree that Klay's conditioning, finishing at the basket, and decision making could be better. My issue is, what other options do we have at the 2? We can bring Klay off the bench but what does that solve? I think its GS all over again and he's gonna pout.

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

[GermanFan120]

Every time Klay is mentioned, people bring up stats. To me, Klay doesn't pass the eye test to bring the team to the next level, plain and simple.

I agree that Klay's conditioning, finishing at the basket, and decision making could be better. My issue is, what other options do we have at the 2? We can bring Klay off the bench but what does that solve? I think its GS all over again and he's gonna pout.

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

Do you know why the expectation on Klay is not low? Because how much he is paid. Why don't you do me a favor and calculate the % of the salary when Peja was paid in 2011? If Klay's salary % is near how much Peja was paid, then I agree we shouldn't have too much expectation on Klay.

Because to me, they are the same now. A good to elite shooter but not so much as a defender because of their respective age of their career.

But the ultimate question is how much they were paid. If I remember correctly, Peja got the veteran minimum or something like that, right?

[41Dirk41]

I agree that Klay's conditioning, finishing at the basket, and decision making could be better. My issue is, what other options do we have at the 2? We can bring Klay off the bench but what does that solve? I think its GS all over again and he's gonna pout.

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

Do you know why the expectation on Klay is not low? Because how much he is paid. Why don't you do me a favor and calculate the % of the salary when Peja was paid in 2011? If Klay's salary % is near how much Peja was paid, then I agree we shouldn't have too much expectation on Klay.

Because to me, they are the same now. A good to elite shooter but not so much as a defender because of their respective age of their career.

But the ultimate question is how much they were paid. If I remember correctly, Peja got the veteran minimum or something like that, right?

Trust me my friend, you don't remember very well how was Peja in 2011... obviously all opinions are worthy of respect but these exaggerations make the post lose credibility.

[Archx]

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

Do you know why the expectation on Klay is not low? Because how much he is paid. Why don't you do me a favor and calculate the % of the salary when Peja was paid in 2011? If Klay's salary % is near how much Peja was paid, then I agree we shouldn't have too much expectation on Klay.

Because to me, they are the same now. A good to elite shooter but not so much as a defender because of their respective age of their career.

But the ultimate question is how much they were paid. If I remember correctly, Peja got the veteran minimum or something like that, right?

January 20, 2011: Waived by the Toronto Raptors.
January 24, 2011: Signed as a free agent with the Dallas Mavericks.

Peja signed a 14.8$M deal with Raptors, that was a ton of money back then because salary cap was set at 58.044$ M.

But it is true after waivers he signed for only 636,320$ with the Mavs.

Overall Peja only played 25 games averaging 8ppg. He played 17mpg in playoffs averaging 7ppg on 37.7% from 3.

[Mavrelous]

I agree that Klay's conditioning, finishing at the basket, and decision making could be better. My issue is, what other options do we have at the 2? We can bring Klay off the bench but what does that solve? I think its GS all over again and he's gonna pout.

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

Do you know why the expectation on Klay is not low? Because how much he is paid. Why don't you do me a favor and calculate the % of the salary when Peja was paid in 2011? If Klay's salary % is near how much Peja was paid, then I agree we shouldn't have too much expectation on Klay.

Because to me, they are the same now. A good to elite shooter but not so much as a defender because of their respective age of their career.

But the ultimate question is how much they were paid. If I remember correctly, Peja got the veteran minimum or something like that, right?

Peja was buyout vet min signing, not FA for MLE.
Klay is paid as a low end starter or 6th/7th man, he's not paid as a star.

[Mavrelous]

You guys have too high expectations on him, we don't need to reach next level, we were in the Finals 6months ago.
We need to upgrade some weak spots and the 3 points shooting was one of them. Klay is élite.

Next step is a POA defender, even ahead of a backup PF/C, and Nico is still working for that trade.

Do you know why the expectation on Klay is not low? Because how much he is paid. Why don't you do me a favor and calculate the % of the salary when Peja was paid in 2011? If Klay's salary % is near how much Peja was paid, then I agree we shouldn't have too much expectation on Klay.

Because to me, they are the same now. A good to elite shooter but not so much as a defender because of their respective age of their career.

But the ultimate question is how much they were paid. If I remember correctly, Peja got the veteran minimum or something like that, right?

January 20, 2011: Waived by the Toronto Raptors.
January 24, 2011: Signed as a free agent with the Dallas Mavericks.

Peja signed a 14.8$M deal with Raptors, that was a ton of money back then because salary cap was set at 58.044$ M.

But it is true after waivers he signed for only 636,320$ with the Mavs.

Overall Peja only played 25 games averaging 8ppg. He played 17mpg in playoffs averaging 7ppg on 37.7% from 3.

Peja was signed by NO, they had young CP3 and David West and were looking for a shooter to add to them, they maxed him or something close to that, that was the final year of that deal and they dealt him as expiring (similar to what the Mavs did with THJ).