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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#601 » by joesha1698 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:09 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

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For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??




Kyrie is not a lunatic. He just posted a link to a documentary that was disputing religion. I see nothing wrong with that. I personally believe these religions were wrote by men, so why shouldn't other people have a right to challenge religion beliefs and historical events? The lunatics are the people who claim to be "Semitic" but any dna test will show European ancestry. They just weaponized something they pretend to be. Its obviously being used a weapon to attack free speech and punish people who they do not like. Kyrie Irving was being punished for his VAX stand and for speaking his mind. He became unruly and they were trying to punish him. The same way they did Dave Chapelle and now Elon Musk.

As for your other comments, a lot of great players have been injury prone. I could easily make a list of all the games they missed and i'm pretty sure they havent won a ring or hit a big shot. Additionally, teams win together not one player. How many of those teams have won since Kyrie left? I'll wait.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#602 » by Archx » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:16 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??




Man, you can't even read...i wrote a "vet big" not a "vet min big" ... We had picks, MLE and young guys to trade last summer.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet :lol:

No you are the one that cannot read nor comprehend. There is no max cap space to sign a good veteran big.
Luka asking for vet big does not mean anything. This is not Real Madrid or Euroleague. You cannot simply acquire a good player with your extra money. Cap space rules are there.
If you pay Kyrie $40m + $65 to Luka/THJ then you do not have any chance to get a good big man. MLE is not going to cut it. Mavs did not have any wing player due to Kyrie trade anyway so they signed Williams.

All in all you spend all money to Luka-THJ-Kyrie and then acting like a 5 year old child and asking why Mavs dont have good vet big.

41Dirk41 wrote:I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet :lol:

Dude you cannot even write proper English while trying to insult others. G T F O! You are fool!


You're constantly insulting other posters, you can't even comprehend what they are telling you, then you go on long rampages how Kyrie is the biggest issue on this team and act like you're the smartest person on the planet.

I guess you missed the free agency because there is no way someone would write so many dissinformation posts like you do.

Ayton and Capela were up for grabs, PHX and ATL were willing to trade them even to Mavs, but Mavs FO cheaped out and made Green+Hardy combo untouchable. All ATL wanted was one of them and Mavs could have had Capela or even Ayton. Things would have been much different now if that happened.

I suggest you get off your high horse or take a week to cool off because you're bringing nothing to discussion other than piss off people.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#603 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:55 pm

Irving and the lack of quality bigs are not related.

Btw i still think that Holmes can play 10minutes a game.
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Post#604 » by tleikheen » Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:52 am

Ive touted Jonathan Isaac here on a trade and you hear" ..... but he hasnt hardly played in 4 yrs" .Who gives a fuc* ,he's healthy now , Did you see him meet Giannis Antetoukoumpo twice at the rim and stuff him . Nobody has done this ever to Giannis in his career. Orlando may have a tiny sliver of need for guard play but ouch Hardy and Green are creating doubt about their ceiling .
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Post#605 » by tleikheen » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:01 am

Mavs fans need to quit living in LALA land and think they will win with defense in the Luka era. With Luka the Mavs will always be to 3-5 best offensive team. This is what you build on .
I love coaches who play to the strenghs of their players . The sidelines are full of coaches who tried putting round pegs into square holes.
I think with a player with length ,with back ground and entering his prime playing yrs.would be who Luka ,Kyrie and Dante would want to play with.
Kyle Kuzma is avging 23 ppg and rpg., He'd move from SF to PF with the Mavs. He'd build on the strength of the Mavs ability to score.
The Milwaukee Bucks are 23rd in defense 2 worst than the Mavs but they're 1/2 game from having the best record in the NBA .They play to their teams strengths.
Rarely has Luka played with good basketball players entering their prime .
A lineup of C) Lively 7'1" PF) Kuzma 6'9" G) Exum 6'5" G) Irving 6'2" G) 6'7" Doncic
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#606 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:02 am

Capela and Hunter on the block... Trade all the players (not named Luka, Irving, Lively) and Kidd+Cuban+Harrison+all the yes man in the FO for them.
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Post#607 » by tleikheen » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:42 am

Capela and Hunter on the block... Trade all the players (not named Luka, Irving, Lively) and Kidd+Cuban+Harrison+all the yes man in the FO for them.


Atlanta isn't tanking ,no favors done for the Mavs
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Post#608 » by kane0801 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:50 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Capela and Hunter on the block... Trade all the players (not named Luka, Irving, Lively) and Kidd+Cuban+Harrison+all the yes man in the FO for them.

Hunter is not worth with his contract(90M/4 years)
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Post#609 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:55 am

kane0801 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Capela and Hunter on the block... Trade all the players (not named Luka, Irving, Lively) and Kidd+Cuban+Harrison+all the yes man in the FO for them.

Hunter is not worth with his contract(90M/4 years)


In this NBA few players worth their contract, they are all everpaid.

If he can stay healthy (big if i know) i'm ok with his contract.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#610 » by daoneandonly » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:45 am

Kidd is not an NBA caliber coach. Firing him means possibly upsetting Kyrie though.

So should we cut ties with Kidd if it means we'll need to trade Ky?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#611 » by Archx » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:53 am

tleikheen wrote:Mavs fans need to quit living in LALA land and think they will win with defense in the Luka era. With Luka the Mavs will always be to 3-5 best offensive team. This is what you build on .
I love coaches who play to the strenghs of their players . The sidelines are full of coaches who tried putting round pegs into square holes.


They already had the 6th best defense when they went deep in the playoffs that year. So yes, it can be done because it has been done before. But you need the right players and a coach doing his job instead of just sitting on his ass face palming entire game. Even Dudley does more coaching during games.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#612 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:08 am

With limited assets Mavs really can't make a splash on the trade market(get an all star) but I do think they could get someone young,with potential...Tari Eason,Trey Murphy III, Isaiah Stewart are the type of players who could help this team,but even they would probably be hard to get
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Post#613 » by joesha1698 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:23 am

daoneandonly wrote:Kidd is not an NBA caliber coach. Firing him means possibly upsetting Kyrie though.

So should we cut ties with Kidd if it means we'll need to trade Ky?



I like how you started your statement with, "Kidd is not an NBA caliber coach". I thought that was a brilliant opening line to establish creditability :crazy: . And then the way you pivoted to the equation of Kidd x Kyrie - Upset = They both most go. If only I thought of this first. .......Maybe papa would've stayed? :cry:
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Post#614 » by Maverick41 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:53 am

Not sure how much more evident it can be that we need a backup big. Kidds already playing Grant and DJJ extended minutes at center, including starting Grant vs the Spurs.

Someone needs to wake Nico up. It's almost like the guy never works unless it's early summer or TDL.
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Post#615 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:14 am

Maverick41 wrote:Not sure how much more evident it can be that we need a backup big. Kidds already playing Grant and DJJ extended minutes at center, including starting Grant vs the Spurs.

Someone needs to wake Nico up. It's almost like the guy never works unless it's early summer or TDL.


They already have a decent backup big but the priority is to find Playtime for Powell so no, i don't think they will trade for another big. I'm sorry mod :wink:
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#616 » by daoneandonly » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:10 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Not sure how much more evident it can be that we need a backup big. Kidds already playing Grant and DJJ extended minutes at center, including starting Grant vs the Spurs.

Someone needs to wake Nico up. It's almost like the guy never works unless it's early summer or TDL.


They already have a decent backup big but the priority is to find Playtime for Powell so no, i don't think they will trade for another big. I'm sorry mod :wink:


I can't imagine guys like Len, Robin Lopez, etc are hard to get. Nico is just not competent, the KP trade to Wash and Brunson fiasco proved it.

Dallas needs a PF and a backup big, and Kidd sucks at his job
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#617 » by Mavrelous » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:13 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Not sure how much more evident it can be that we need a backup big. Kidds already playing Grant and DJJ extended minutes at center, including starting Grant vs the Spurs.

Someone needs to wake Nico up. It's almost like the guy never works unless it's early summer or TDL.


They already have a decent backup big but the priority is to find Playtime for Powell so no, i don't think they will trade for another big. I'm sorry mod :wink:


I can't imagine guys like Len, Robin Lopez, etc are hard to get. Nico is just not competent, the KP trade to Wash and Brunson fiasco proved it.

Dallas needs a PF and a backup big, and Kidd sucks at his job


Or Goga Bitadze who was there for the taking in the offseason...
A constant theme of apparent disconnect between the FO and HC keep occurring with this teams transactions.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
Fortune favours the bold, so it ducked Nico Harrison.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#618 » by daoneandonly » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:18 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
They already have a decent backup big but the priority is to find Playtime for Powell so no, i don't think they will trade for another big. I'm sorry mod :wink:


I can't imagine guys like Len, Robin Lopez, etc are hard to get. Nico is just not competent, the KP trade to Wash and Brunson fiasco proved it.

Dallas needs a PF and a backup big, and Kidd sucks at his job


Or Goga Bitadze who was there for the taking in the offseason...
A constant theme of apparent disconnect between the FO and HC keep occurring with this teams transactions.


Yea, even last year, could have probably gotten Hartenstein if Kidd wasn't enamored with McGee. Of course Bruce Brown was the obvious guy to go after.

I'm more willing to trade Ky now if we get a near all star back. The availability issues are already too much
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#619 » by Archx » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:51 pm

Maverick41 wrote:Not sure how much more evident it can be that we need a backup big. Kidds already playing Grant and DJJ extended minutes at center, including starting Grant vs the Spurs.

Someone needs to wake Nico up. It's almost like the guy never works unless it's early summer or TDL.


These "fast" smaller units with strong guards like Luka do work vs lesser teams who also want to play small. But serious teams will roll out athletic bigs and will simply outrebound and outscore the Mavs in the paint. We're repeating the same **** for the past 5 or so years, Nico is saying the same things but nothing gets done. They lucked into Lively and could have gotten Capela or Ayton for cheap as a much needed backups, but no, apparently Hardy with below zero IQ was untouchable.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#620 » by Teffer10 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:07 pm

Wonder if Jazz would consider this deal?

Green/Hardy/Maxi/Holmes/Some combination of picks
for
Collins/Yurtseven

Remember how Green/Hardy torched them with 29 points each last year in the same game.

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