Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Mr B]

Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.

If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.

Under any circumstance I’m not trading 3 FRP’s for Ja Morant. He’s nowhere near that value. I’d rather play the entire season with an all big lineup than give up that kind of draft capital for a guy who might get himself locked up at any time. Not to mention is this the kind of guy you want in the locker room influencing Cooper Flagg?

[41Dirk41]

Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.

If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.

Under any circumstance I’m not trading 3 FRP’s for Ja Morant. He’s nowhere near that value. I’d rather play the entire season with an all big lineup than give up that kind of draft capital for a guy who might get himself locked up at any time. Not to mention is this the kind of guy you want in the locker room influencing Cooper Flagg?

Me too.

Only Lakers pick that has 0 value because they will be a contender for years.

[Super Cooper]

I was replying to Marvellous, who had Gafford and 2 FRPs in a trade?

You might calm down a little.

Have you ever contributed to a constructive post on this board?

The next time will be the first time.

Dude, you do nothing but deconstruct, which isn't very difficult with your use of straw man arguments.

What are you talking about? You're not the only one in discussion. I replied Marvrelous, who had totally different proposal for JA not Jrue, which might even have a little sense for both teams.
Your proposal might have sense only for Portland, if they like JA.

You didn't answer my question.

Tell me please how a backcourt of Kyrie/Ja would work....

[Super Cooper]

Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.

If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.

Under any circumstance I’m not trading 3 FRP’s for Ja Morant. He’s nowhere near that value. I’d rather play the entire season with an all big lineup than give up that kind of draft capital for a guy who might get himself locked up at any time. Not to mention is this the kind of guy you want in the locker room influencing Cooper Flagg?

Moreover, Ja can't be in the same backcourt as Kyrie. He may fit right now, but as soon as Kyrie returns, it's a disaster.

Again, I only brought up Ja because he would be a nice fit there; Jrue only makes sense if we're all in on the AD/Kyrie timeline (which the entire front office counts on for their continued employment).

[Super Cooper]

If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.

Under any circumstance I’m not trading 3 FRP’s for Ja Morant. He’s nowhere near that value. I’d rather play the entire season with an all big lineup than give up that kind of draft capital for a guy who might get himself locked up at any time. Not to mention is this the kind of guy you want in the locker room influencing Cooper Flagg?

Me too.

Only Lakers pick that has 0 value because they will be a contender for years.

No way, for Ja. It doesn't make any sense except the immediate impact (which would become a disaster with Kyrie's return).

Would you trade DLive, pieces, and a FRP for Jrue?

[41Dirk41]

Of course if we trade for JA then Irving will flipped away.

They already tank the season (Kidd resigned is too strange) so i don't think the will trade FRPs. And i'm ok with that.

[Super Cooper]

Of course if we trade for JA then Irving will flipped away.

They already tank the season (Kidd resigned is too strange) so i don't think the will trade FRPs. And i'm ok with that.

While Nico is GM (which hopefully ends soon), tanking is out of the question.

Last place in the West and worst offense in the league, Nico is going to press the panic button, which is frightening. Scouring the league, Jrue is the only win now solution (other than Ja). While Kyrie isn't as untouchable for Nico's ego, I think moving him (for Ja) is far-fetched. It'd make AD stick out like a sore thumb age-wise. MEM will want at least 3 FRPs for Ja. So you'd have to find a 3rd team willing to give at least 2 FRPs for Kyrie to flip to MEM. I just don't see that happening for a team who has those picks available.

So would you trade DLive + 1FRP + pieces for Jrue?

[Mr B]

If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.

Under any circumstance I’m not trading 3 FRP’s for Ja Morant. He’s nowhere near that value. I’d rather play the entire season with an all big lineup than give up that kind of draft capital for a guy who might get himself locked up at any time. Not to mention is this the kind of guy you want in the locker room influencing Cooper Flagg?

Moreover, Ja can't be in the same backcourt as Kyrie. He may fit right now, but as soon as Kyrie returns, it's a disaster.

Again, I only brought up Ja because he would be a nice fit there; Jrue only makes sense if we're all in on the AD/Kyrie timeline (which the entire front office counts on for their continued employment).

I totally understand bringing up Ja. He plays the PG, he’s youngish, and he’s available. There are just so many reasons to not invest in him. Money, personality, work ethic, and IQ it’s all bad with him.

As for Jrue, ideal fit but currently fitting in well with his current team and might be too expensive based on his age.

The player they end up trading for likely won’t be either of these guys.

[41Dirk41]

Of course if we trade for JA then Irving will flipped away.

They already tank the season (Kidd resigned is too strange) so i don't think the will trade FRPs. And i'm ok with that.

While Nico is GM (which hopefully ends soon), tanking is out of the question.

Last place in the West and worst offense in the league, Nico is going to press the panic button, which is frightening. Scouring the league, Jrue is the only win now solution (other than Ja). While Kyrie isn't as untouchable for Nico's ego, I think moving him (for Ja) is far-fetched. It'd make AD stick out like a sore thumb age-wise. MEM will want at least 3 FRPs for Ja. So you'd have to find a 3rd team willing to give at least 2 FRPs for Kyrie to flip to MEM. I just don't see that happening for a team who has those picks available.

So would you trade DLive + 1FRP + pieces for Jrue?

I changed my mind a little bit, this is the last year where Mavs have own pick and the draft is potential very very good so a tank is a good option even for Harrison (mostly if Doncic trade was not his idea and his spot is safe).
They resigned Kidd in a very strange period (September??? Why???) and it's could be an incentive to shut up and lose games.

No, i don't trade FRP for Jrue because he will not make us a contender.

[Mr B]

Of course if we trade for JA then Irving will flipped away.

They already tank the season (Kidd resigned is too strange) so i don't think the will trade FRPs. And i'm ok with that.

While Nico is GM (which hopefully ends soon), tanking is out of the question.

Last place in the West and worst offense in the league, Nico is going to press the panic button, which is frightening. Scouring the league, Jrue is the only win now solution (other than Ja). While Kyrie isn't as untouchable for Nico's ego, I think moving him (for Ja) is far-fetched. It'd make AD stick out like a sore thumb age-wise. MEM will want at least 3 FRPs for Ja. So you'd have to find a 3rd team willing to give at least 2 FRPs for Kyrie to flip to MEM. I just don't see that happening for a team who has those picks available.

So would you trade DLive + 1FRP + pieces for Jrue?

Nico has a closer personal relationship with Kyrie though. I think Kyrie is as untouchable as AD is if we’re being realistic.

There has to be another PG out there that is realistically available that the Mavs can trade for. Someone other than Ja or Jrue. Ja is too big a risk and Jrue may not be available. Or the Mavs may have to overpay if they want Jrue which I would prefer not to do. Someone else has to be available.

[MassimoPayne]

How in the hell would you offer a FRP for Jrue? You are getting a 35yr old with 32 mio contract over 3 years back... This move would actually limit our ability to trade in future to almost zero.
Speaking money they would need to take Klay back for Jrue. I don't know if they would do it

[41Dirk41]

How in the hell would you offer a FRP for Jrue? You are getting a 35yr old with 32 mio contract over 3 years back... This move would actually limit our ability to trade in future to almost zero.
Speaking money they would need to take Klay back for Jrue. I don't know if they would do it

You are obviously right... But our GM traded a generational superstar in his prime for a 33yo soft budino with a 3years 200M contract.

If really he has green light on all basketball operation i will not be surprise to see him trade this year FRP for Jrue instead of tank for an high pick in a awesome draft.

[41Dirk41]

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I'm not totally sold on Mr B theory about chemistry... Maybe there is something else. Maybe.

[Super Cooper]

Well, POR got Jrue for 2 SRPs and a younger version of DLo. My stating they'd demand a FRP is silly in retrospect.

Yes, Jrue is way overpaid, but IMO isn't more overpaid than the pieces we'd give up (like Klay).

I only brought up Ja because he is who I think POR would go after with MEM as a third team. I didn't bring up Ja for the Mavs for all the reasons everyone has listed here. I especially don't think Nico would give up Kyrie for Ja (even in separate trades).

As far as Jrue not making us contenders, there's no one trade out there that does that. Several moves need to happen.

Would you trade DLive, pieces, and 2 SRPs? If not, what would you give up for Jrue?

[Super Cooper]

It's only one game, but Jalen Green balled out last night with Booker at PG. I'm not saying he's a great fit here, but we definitely need a more dynamic backcourt. A scorer like that would certainly take the pressure off whoever is playing the point.

[Mr B]

It's only one game, but Jalen Green balled out last night with Booker at PG. I'm not saying he's a great fit here, but we definitely need a more dynamic backcourt. A scorer like that would certainly take the pressure off whoever is playing the point.

Would they actually move Green? I got the impression that he’s the main player they wanted when they traded KD to Houston. I mentioned Brooks before but he’s terrible shooter and still not really a PG.

What about Grayson Allen? He’s still not really a PG but he is pretty good shooter. He makes about $16M and is signed for 1 more season (+ player option year). He’s 30 years old. And is Grayson Allen even available and how good of a fit would he be on the Mavs?

[Super Cooper]

It's only one game, but Jalen Green balled out last night with Booker at PG. I'm not saying he's a great fit here, but we definitely need a more dynamic backcourt. A scorer like that would certainly take the pressure off whoever is playing the point.

Would they actually move Green? I got the impression that he’s the main player they wanted when they traded KD to Houston. I mentioned Brooks before but he’s terrible shooter and still not really a PG.

What about Grayson Allen? He’s still not really a PG but he is pretty good shooter. He makes about $16M and is signed for 1 more season (+ player option year). He’s 30 years old. And is Grayson Allen even available and how good of a fit would he be on the Mavs?

Somewhere I read that they were trying to flip Green after the trade, but don't remember where. I think that was fueled with Booker's reluctance to play PG.

Grayson is a nice thought. Good defender and shooter. Donte is another in the same vein.

[Super Cooper]

https://heavy.com/sports/nba/chicago-bulls/bill-simmons-coby-white-bulls-trade/

Coby White is a name I hadn't thought of. Yes, the child molester has made Coby unneeded in CHI. At 6'5", would he be a good match with Kyrie?

[41Dirk41]

We need a floor general, those guys are combo guards almost useless without a real PG and redundant with Irving.

[Mr B]

We need a floor general, those guys are combo guards almost useless without a real PG and redundant with Irving.

Long term absolutely. None of the guys we’ve talked about I don’t think are long term options. If anything they are just stop gap PG’s (I understand they are combo guards). They are also better than any of the guards we currently have on the active roster.

They would still need to find their long term answer. That’s why I don’t want them to spend big assets on whoever they bring in as a stop gap.

CJ McCollum is another guy I wouldn’t mind them going after as a stop gap but I wouldn’t want to send out draft picks, at least not a 1st.