Trade Discussion 22/23

[arkuo]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Cuban just signed Dennis Smith Jr to a minimum contract, 2nd year team option.

Mavs have money but there are not many options left. Victor Oladipo? Lauri Markannen? John Collins?

Finding a way to add Collins and Oladipo would be great.


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Oladipo seemed to have found his game again in Houston playing off John Wall. He'd probably move the needle over THJ. It helps that he plays defense too.

[JD45]

Oladipo seemed to have found his game again in Houston playing off John Wall. He'd probably move the needle over THJ. It helps that he plays defense too.

Not the most efficient scorer, but can get his own shot. And plays good team defense. Really just a better version of JRich.

[bartlettbear]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Cuban just signed Dennis Smith Jr to a minimum contract, 2nd year team option.

Mavs have money but there are not many options left. Victor Oladipo? Lauri Markannen? John Collins?

It depends on what kind of meltdown Mavs will have in this season. It will be difficult not to do anything, if they finish somewhere near bottom. If they eventually make playoffs, Covid would be blamed for all problems and we could see similar roster next year.

It's not only about starters, they should upgrade at least bench. Few years back, bench was winning games. Now bench is incredibly bad.

I hope they get a legitimate starting wing player. Move THJ and DFS to the bench. That can form a nice second unit. It is when you put those two in the starting 5 that they become the weakest link. Donci-Maxi-KP can be full time starters. Richardson too if he decides to stay.

What about Thaddeus Young 13.5 Million can trade Powell and filler

[aguiar95]

As of right now, we have completed 2 full games with all our rotation players. Here's the locked rotation so far:

Starters:

Luka (PG/SF)
Richardson (SG/SF)
Finney-Smith (SF/PF)
Kleber (PF/C)
Porzingis (PF/C)

Bench:

Brunson (PG/SG)
Hardaway (SG/SF)

We need another guy that can play at least 20mpg from the bench (or a starter to bump one of DFS/Kleber to the bench), preferably at SF/PF/C that can shoot and defend. Without touching our rotation, here's what we have available:

- W. Cauley-Stein or Powell (I'd like to keep at least one for KP ensurance/B2B);
- T. Burke;
- J. Johnson;
- J. Green;
- T. Terry;
- W. Iwundu;
- Two 1st round picks ('25 and '27, we have to give up protections on the '23 1st, or else we have 1 1st);
- Five 2nd rounders.

My targets so far are (A. Gordon was my favorite, but after his injury I don't want to touch him):

- L. Nance Jr. (CLE): Probably my favorite target for us right now, very hard to get him, but if CLE somehow makes him available we should be knocking at their door. Green/1st/filler?

- O. Porter Jr. (CHI): Helps with his shooting as well as his defense. Is a Powell/Johnson/1st for OPJ/Kornet package enough?

What are your thoughts and other targets?

[ejs78]

I posted this in another thread.

You can still go after Gordon.


Mavs get:
Gordon
Ross
Fournier
Birch

Magic get:
Hardaway
Johnson
Powell

As of right now, we have completed 2 full games with all our rotation players. Here's the locked rotation so far:

Starters:

Luka (PG/SF)
Richardson (SG/SF)
Finney-Smith (SF/PF)
Kleber (PF/C)
Porzingis (PF/C)

Bench:

Brunson (PG/SG)
Hardaway (SG/SF)

We need another guy that can play at least 20mpg from the bench (or a starter to bump one of DFS/Kleber to the bench), preferably at SF/PF/C that can shoot and defend. Without touching our rotation, here's what we have available:

- W. Cauley-Stein or Powell (I'd like to keep at least one for KP ensurance/B2B);
- T. Burke;
- J. Johnson;
- J. Green;
- T. Terry;
- W. Iwundu;
- Two 1st round picks ('25 and '27, we have to give up protections on the '23 1st, or else we have 1 1st);
- Five 2nd rounders.

My targets so far are (A. Gordon was my favorite, but after his injury I don't want to touch him):

- L. Nance Jr. (CLE): Probably my favorite target for us right now, very hard to get him, but if CLE somehow makes him available we should be knocking at their door. Green/1st/filler?

- O. Porter Jr. (CHI): Helps with his shooting as well as his defense. Is a Powell/Johnson/1st for OPJ/Kornet package enough?

What are your thoughts and other targets?

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[fuller4379]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

[Apz]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

Thats a tough 1. Feels like the 23 pick and maybe the lal pick just pays for bledsoe. I cant really say tbh if i would do it, maybe which is kinda telling when it comes from me yhat it probably should be done. Try to flip hayes if so for a real center, maybe?

[JD45]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

There is risk no matter what, but I would rather take the risk of KP playing like he did the end of last year, than having one of those picks land a star.

[Captain_Obvious]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

Hell yes, but we never get this offer

[dirkforpres]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

I’d say yes because I don’t think the Pelicans are good enough to warrant trading 1sts, plus KP and Zion are health risks so those picks have too 3 potential.

Would never happen though. Too much of a logjam at 4/5 with Ingram/Zion/Adams/Porzingis

[Absinthe]

I’m not interested in trading with New Orleans unless the trade includes Adams.

[Darren]

KP, J-Rich to GSW for Wiseman, Wiggins and GSW 1st

TH, Powell, GSW 1st to Sactown for Buddy, Bjelica

Green, Iwundu for Ntilikina

C - Kleber / WCS / Boban
PF - Wiseman / Bjelica / JJ
SF - DFS / Wiggins / Bey
SG - Hield / Burke / Ntilikina
PG - Doncic / Brunson / Terry

[Mike lorenzo]

Iwundu + 2 Round to Ellington .. I wouldn't move the needle much I guess .. it's depressing to be the worst team in all 3 ... when it's the only thing you do

[leolozon]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

There is risk no matter what, but I would rather take the risk of KP playing like he did the end of last year, than having one of those picks land a star.

What's the point of draft picks if RC won't play or develop the rookies?

[Bluelabel24]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/03/nba-rumors-dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-trade-kristaps-porzingis/

Would you make this trade?

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas Mavericks Receive: Eric Bledsoe, JJ Redick, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2021 1st Round Pick (via LAL – Top 8-30 Prot.)

I am on the fence on this. It would give the Mavs the firepower to go after a big fish in a trade and free up a lot of salary. I still have hope that KP can be healthy, but I am starting to have my doubts.

There is risk no matter what, but I would rather take the risk of KP playing like he did the end of last year, than having one of those picks land a star.

What's the point of draft picks if RC won't play or develop the rookies?

exactly.. those pick probably wouldnt matter because of RCs decision not play rookies who arent drafted high. even if lets say we select an OG Anunoby(23rd pick) type player whos ready to contribute right away, that guy would not play here.

[arkuo]

RC has been riding the 2011 championship wave for too long. How much of 2011 was because of Dirk's iso plays on god mode and how much exactly was because of his coaching genius? IMO he's a Greg Popovich wannabe who cant develop his own Parker, Ginobli or Duncan. So now Dallas needs to get him finished products so they can run his plays.

[Bluelabel24]

RC has been riding the 2011 championship wave for too long. How much of 2011 was because of Dirk's iso plays on god mode and how much exactly was because of his coaching genius? IMO he's a Greg Popovich wannabe who cant develop his own Parker, Ginobli or Duncan. So now Dallas needs to get him finished products so they can run his plays.

i agree with this.. the hard part though is who to replace him with??
my suggestions would be Kenny Atkinson, Mosley or Ettore Messina from spurs. what do you guys think??

[Archx]

RC has been riding the 2011 championship wave for too long. How much of 2011 was because of Dirk's iso plays on god mode and how much exactly was because of his coaching genius? IMO he's a Greg Popovich wannabe who cant develop his own Parker, Ginobli or Duncan. So now Dallas needs to get him finished products so they can run his plays.

i agree with this.. the hard part though is who to replace him with??
my suggestions would be Kenny Atkinson, Mosley or Ettore Messina from spurs. what do you guys think??

Igor Kokoskov.

[juanc]

RC has been riding the 2011 championship wave for too long. How much of 2011 was because of Dirk's iso plays on god mode and how much exactly was because of his coaching genius? IMO he's a Greg Popovich wannabe who cant develop his own Parker, Ginobli or Duncan. So now Dallas needs to get him finished products so they can run his plays.

i agree with this.. the hard part though is who to replace him with??
my suggestions would be Kenny Atkinson, Mosley or Ettore Messina from spurs. what do you guys think??

Dave Joerger would be my first choice. His teams always played good basketball, I won't forget how he made the playoffs with the Grizzlies with a GLeauge roster. He's also a big reason why The 76ers are playing the way the do...

[dirkforpres]

RC has been riding the 2011 championship wave for too long. How much of 2011 was because of Dirk's iso plays on god mode and how much exactly was because of his coaching genius? IMO he's a Greg Popovich wannabe who cant develop his own Parker, Ginobli or Duncan. So now Dallas needs to get him finished products so they can run his plays.

i agree with this.. the hard part though is who to replace him with??
my suggestions would be Kenny Atkinson, Mosley or Ettore Messina from spurs. what do you guys think??

Kenny Atkinson, Pablo Laso, Becky Hammons, Sam Cassell, and Adrian Griffin are who I’d target