Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Bob8]

Your name is "Hornets" for now on.

I asked you you think you should ease up when destructing other people's ideas when you are lacking your own. If you don't want to discuss trades, then don't. It's adult to keep moving when you can't provide an alternative.

Please quote me when I proposed getting AR.

Please quote me when I told you what you should write.

Please tell why this trade proposal is laughable. Better yet, propose your own.

DAL
Holiday
Murray
Rupert

POR
Ja
Martin

MEM
Thybulle
DLive
Klay
Hardy
3 FRPs (POR)
2 SRPs (DAL)
*Probably a fourth team to take Klay and Hardy for something more useful

How is trading DLive and 2 SRPs while getting rid of Klay, Martin, and Hardy for Jrue laughable?

Portland will give Jrue, who plays perfectly for them, Thybulle, 3 FRPs and take bad Martin's contract for damage goods JA?

The most likely destination for JA are Kings.

Hornets, you exposed your inadequacies again. So, what will Ja fetch if I'm so laughable?

If you don't see how laughable is your proposal from Blazers point of view than...

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

[41Dirk41]

The only Mavs salvation is firing Nico first. I don't want to beat a dead horse.

It is not about a seasoned PG for the current roster. That won't bring Dallas to contention. Not at all. And the window with AD and Kyrie is already closing.

So first you have to get rid of the guy blocking the only playbook possible for the franchise to get back to hope.

Then, after the blessing of Flagg, you can finally trade AD, Kyrie, KT, Gafford in exchange for draft stock, and tank. Well, team will be so bad that it will be irrelevant if they try or not.

Again, that is the only playbook.

Yes, that's the point.

Try to save a no where season it's useless. Mostly with this awesome draft.

Fire Harrison is the first and most important move to do. For a lot of reason.

[41Dirk41]

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

This guy remembered me another funny poster... I bet he is not new here.

[Super Cooper]

Portland will give Jrue, who plays perfectly for them, Thybulle, 3 FRPs and take bad Martin's contract for damage goods JA?

The most likely destination for JA are Kings.

Hornets, you exposed your inadequacies again. So, what will Ja fetch if I'm so laughable?

If you don't see how laughable is your proposal from Blazers point of view than...

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

Hornets, that's not what I asked. I asked what type of deal you think Ja will fetch. You said Ja will probably do to SAC. So, what's that look like?

Either provide details or STFU on other people's details.

[Super Cooper]

The only Mavs salvation is firing Nico first. I don't want to beat a dead horse.

It is not about a seasoned PG for the current roster. That won't bring Dallas to contention. Not at all. And the window with AD and Kyrie is already closing.

So first you have to get rid of the guy blocking the only playbook possible for the franchise to get back to hope.

Then, after the blessing of Flagg, you can finally trade AD, Kyrie, KT, Gafford in exchange for draft stock, and tank. Well, team will be so bad that it will be irrelevant if they try or not.

Again, that is the only playbook.

Yes, that's the point.

Try to save a no where season it's useless. Mostly with this awesome draft.

Fire Harrison is the first and most important move to do. For a lot of reason.

Water is wet.

[Super Cooper]

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

This guy remembered me another funny poster... I bet he is not new here.

[Bob8]

Hornets, you exposed your inadequacies again. So, what will Ja fetch if I'm so laughable?

If you don't see how laughable is your proposal from Blazers point of view than...

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

Hornets, that's not what I asked. I asked what type of deal you think Ja will fetch. You said Ja will probably do to SAC. So, what's that look like?

Either provide details or STFU on other people's details.

I will leave to our Mod to decide if your behaviour is acceptable.

[Andri]

The only Mavs salvation is firing Nico first. I don't want to beat a dead horse.

It is not about a seasoned PG for the current roster. That won't bring Dallas to contention. Not at all. And the window with AD and Kyrie is already closing.

So first you have to get rid of the guy blocking the only playbook possible for the franchise to get back to hope.

Then, after the blessing of Flagg, you can finally trade AD, Kyrie, KT, Gafford in exchange for draft stock, and tank. Well, team will be so bad that it will be irrelevant if they try or not.

Again, that is the only playbook.

Yes, that's the point.

Try to save a no where season it's useless. Mostly with this awesome draft.

Fire Harrison is the first and most important move to do. For a lot of reason.

Water is wet.

Yet Mavs are still dry as hell

[41Dirk41]

Can you stop with your childish behaviour.

This guy remembered me another funny poster... I bet he is not new here.

You and Hornets love the smell of each other's farts, I mean ideas, huh?

Unfortunately your time here seems over... Bye bye.

[Super Cooper]

Yes, that's the point.

Try to save a no where season it's useless. Mostly with this awesome draft.

Fire Harrison is the first and most important move to do. For a lot of reason.

Water is wet.

Yet Mavs are still dry as hell

Touche. That is funny.

There is no one in Mavs kingdom who disagrees. Nico is the worst GM in NBA history. IMO, he's going to be allowed to play out this season, meaning there will be a deal made for a starting PG.

[Mr B]

Because they didn't get interesting offers? Lakers got Ayton for free and cheap, what do you think are they prepared to give for Gafford. For sure not AR, it might be something like Vincent and Dalton.

Aston isn’t good though. There is a reason they got him for free because no one else wanted him. Defensively it’s not even close Gaffordnmis better than Ayton and would be a huge upgrade for them.

And they would gladly take him for free like Ayton. They for sure won't give Mavs anything good. Lakers are playing long term game, there's basically nobody under the contract in 2 years. Even next year they will get rid of LeBron our friend Kleber and Vincent among others. That's 74 mio expiring.

You really think they are going to wait 2 years to try and compete with Luka?

[Mr B]

The only Mavs salvation is firing Nico first. I don't want to beat a dead horse.

It is not about a seasoned PG for the current roster. That won't bring Dallas to contention. Not at all. And the window with AD and Kyrie is already closing.

So first you have to get rid of the guy blocking the only playbook possible for the franchise to get back to hope.

Then, after the blessing of Flagg, you can finally trade AD, Kyrie, KT, Gafford in exchange for draft stock, and tank. Well, team will be so bad that it will be irrelevant if they try or not.

Again, that is the only playbook.

As long as you understand that they’re not going to do that. We all know that’s what we want them to do but we all also understand that the Mavs are not going to fire Nico and gut the team.

We are discussing realistic options for the team.

[Super Cooper]

Aston isn’t good though. There is a reason they got him for free because no one else wanted him. Defensively it’s not even close Gaffordnmis better than Ayton and would be a huge upgrade for them.

And they would gladly take him for free like Ayton. They for sure won't give Mavs anything good. Lakers are playing long term game, there's basically nobody under the contract in 2 years. Even next year they will get rid of LeBron our friend Kleber and Vincent among others. That's 74 mio expiring.

You really think they are going to wait 2 years to try and compete with Luka?

The Lakers broke up Randle/Hart/Ingram/KCP/Lonzo + 3 FRPs to roll with Lebron and AD. "Wait 2 years" is not in their DNA. Every year is win now with the Lakers.

Only Hornets could make such a laughable assertion.

[Mr B]

And they would gladly take him for free like Ayton. They for sure won't give Mavs anything good. Lakers are playing long term game, there's basically nobody under the contract in 2 years. Even next year they will get rid of LeBron our friend Kleber and Vincent among others. That's 74 mio expiring.

You really think they are going to wait 2 years to try and compete with Luka?

The Lakers broke up Randle/Hart/Ingram/KCP/Lonzo + 3 FRPs to roll with Lebron and AD. "Wait 2 years" is not in their DNA. Every year is win now with the Lakers.

Exactly! Luka is just now really entering his prime years. The Lakers are not going to waist that. Also factor in that outside of the Luka and Labron trades Pelinka has been pretty terrible at the moves he’s made. Luka needs running mates that HE likes and wants. The Lakers are absolutely primed to make a bad trade to get Luka what he wants. Not saying that they will definitely trade with the Mavs but they are definitely going to be buyers at the trade deadline.

[Archx]

You guys would go to war for absolutely the most ridiculous things. Nico didn't only destroy the team but fanbase as well.

AR for LAL is like Kyrie for Mavs. He looks incredibly comfortable as a running mate and will probably going to be close to all star selection, even when Lebron comes back. In no world are Mavs going to get AR for Gafford, that's not possible.

I see that people still underrate Ayton. I wanted him on Mavs when Suns were shopping him and it looks like he's doing just great with Luka and AR. He'll get paid big time if he continues like this.

From what it looks like AR's 30-35M will be close to 40M next season and if Ayton continues like this and is good in playoffs, he'll get a contract in the range of 15-20M. Even if Gafford is slightly better on defense, Ayton does everything else much better.

The only trade i see LAL and Mavs make is if Klay wants to move back home and Nico is forced to call Rob again. But i'm not sure what Mavs could get back. Probably Vincent+salary filler.

[BliscoSantos]

You really think they are going to wait 2 years to try and compete with Luka?

The Lakers broke up Randle/Hart/Ingram/KCP/Lonzo + 3 FRPs to roll with Lebron and AD. "Wait 2 years" is not in their DNA. Every year is win now with the Lakers.

Exactly! Luka is just now really entering his prime years. The Lakers are not going to waist that. Also factor in that outside of the Luka and Labron trades Pelinka has been pretty terrible at the moves he’s made. Luka needs running mates that HE likes and wants. The Lakers are absolutely primed to make a bad trade to get Luka what he wants. Not saying that they will definitely trade with the Mavs but they are definitely going to be buyers at the trade deadline.

Lakers might be buyers at trade deadline ,but its more likely they'll revamp their roster in the summer...and even if they do make a trade during this season ,I doubt it will be with the Mavs...the reason for this is that Pelinka already made a fool out of Nico once ,so by making a second deal Nico will probably ask for a lot more...probably too much to be worthwhile for the Lakers
While Nico is a narcissistic egomaniac ,I don't see him dealing with the Lakers unless they overpay...and I don't see them doing that
Oh,and Nico got bailed out by getting the no 1 pick (because of Kyries injury)...that wasn't his vision...his vision was this team minus Flagg...let that sink in....without KAI's injury and the lottery odds going his way he would have probably traded Gafford,PJ+matching contracts and some picks for KD...maybe that team would contend,for a year or two(if they would have been healthy), but the depth would be thin and the future (with no picks) bleak
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than trying to be smart

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[Super Cooper]

"As for what a possible return for Morant could look like, one team executive ESPN talked to pointed to the 2023 trade that sent Kyrie Irving from the Nets to the Dallas Mavericks. In that deal, the Nets received Spencer Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, a 2029 unprotected first-round pick and two second-rounders."

Ya, I overestimated Ja's worth. Looking at it, Kyrie's bag to BRK is a nice comp. Insanely talented, yet disgruntled PG who is damaged by their own doing.

[Mr B]

"As for what a possible return for Morant could look like, one team executive ESPN talked to pointed to the 2023 trade that sent Kyrie Irving from the Nets to the Dallas Mavericks. In that deal, the Nets received Spencer Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, a 2029 unprotected first-round pick and two second-rounders."

Ya, I overestimated Ja's worth. Looking at it, Kyrie's bag to BRK is a nice comp. Insanely talented, yet disgruntled PG who is damaged by their own doing.

I would definitely give up Spencer Dinwiddie with Ja Morant.

[41Dirk41]

Ja for Gafford is like Doncic for street clothes type of trade