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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft 

Post#681 » by HotrodBeaubois » Wed May 17, 2017 3:58 pm

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dirkforpres wrote:Sucks the Knicks pick right in front of us. They will surely leave us with Markkanen left on the board.

My greatest fear.


It sounds like Smith and Ntilikina will be who they prefer, but I think smith goes to the Knicks at 8 so Dallas will be choosing between those 2. Who knows what's going on with them if that's the case though. I wouldn't mind just trading back and getting Diallo if that's what we are left to choose from


Too bad they didn't start the tank earlier and decide to see if Curry could play PG . If Curry could play PG then a Curry / Diallo backcourt would look pretty nice .

As for Diallo I wouldn't trade back to get him . Instead I trade for another 1st maybe the Portland Davis to Dallas TPE for the 20th Pick ? I also look into trading Matthews to Indiana for the 18th Pick in Indianas attempt to get better so they keep George . Either way Diallo is probably there . Then you draft a PF for with the 9th Pick ..

So your team looks like this

PG-Curry
SG-Diallo
SF-Barnes
PF-Issac or Markkanen or Collins
C-Noel

I still prefer Smith at PG to play with Curry while also grabbing a pick for Diallo by the time Diallo is probably ready to start Curry is probably ready to transition to the bench .
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Post#682 » by Suka Bongcic » Wed May 17, 2017 5:24 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:My greatest fear.


It sounds like Smith and Ntilikina will be who they prefer, but I think smith goes to the Knicks at 8 so Dallas will be choosing between those 2. Who knows what's going on with them if that's the case though. I wouldn't mind just trading back and getting Diallo if that's what we are left to choose from


Too bad they didn't start the tank earlier and decide to see if Curry could play PG . If Curry could play PG then a Curry / Diallo backcourt would look pretty nice .

As for Diallo I wouldn't trade back to get him . Instead I trade for another 1st maybe the Portland Davis to Dallas TPE for the 20th Pick ? I also look into trading Matthews to Indiana for the 18th Pick in Indianas attempt to get better so they keep George . Either way Diallo is probably there . Then you draft a PF for with the 9th Pick ..

So your team looks like this

PG-Curry
SG-Diallo
SF-Barnes
PF-Issac or Markkanen or Collins
C-Noel

I still prefer Smith at PG to play with Curry while also grabbing a pick for Diallo by the time Diallo is probably ready to start Curry is probably ready to transition to the bench .

I don't think Diallo ever sees the court next season. He's an athlete. He's a long ways away from being ready. The kid can't shoot. He's below average with his handles. He's a runner and a jumper. I see him as a shorter poor mans Justin Anderson at this point. If we draft him, there's zero chance he starts this season. The kid needs a lot of work but definitely has the athletic ability to become a good one
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#683 » by Darren » Wed May 17, 2017 10:10 pm

The Mavs drafted Dirk at 9th pick. That's basically the same position we're in upcoming draft.
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Post#684 » by HotrodBeaubois » Wed May 17, 2017 10:41 pm

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HotrodBeaubois wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
It sounds like Smith and Ntilikina will be who they prefer, but I think smith goes to the Knicks at 8 so Dallas will be choosing between those 2. Who knows what's going on with them if that's the case though. I wouldn't mind just trading back and getting Diallo if that's what we are left to choose from


Too bad they didn't start the tank earlier and decide to see if Curry could play PG . If Curry could play PG then a Curry / Diallo backcourt would look pretty nice .

As for Diallo I wouldn't trade back to get him . Instead I trade for another 1st maybe the Portland Davis to Dallas TPE for the 20th Pick ? I also look into trading Matthews to Indiana for the 18th Pick in Indianas attempt to get better so they keep George . Either way Diallo is probably there . Then you draft a PF for with the 9th Pick ..

So your team looks like this

PG-Curry
SG-Diallo
SF-Barnes
PF-Issac or Markkanen or Collins
C-Noel

I still prefer Smith at PG to play with Curry while also grabbing a pick for Diallo by the time Diallo is probably ready to start Curry is probably ready to transition to the bench .

I don't think Diallo ever sees the court next season. He's an athlete. He's a long ways away from being ready. The kid can't shoot. He's below average with his handles. He's a runner and a jumper. I see him as a shorter poor mans Justin Anderson at this point. If we draft him, there's zero chance he starts this season. The kid needs a lot of work but definitely has the athletic ability to become a good one


I never mentioned him starting this year
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#685 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 5:19 am

Darren wrote:The Mavs drafted Dirk at 9th pick. That's basically the same position we're in upcoming draft.


They also drafted Samaki Walker with the 9th pick.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#686 » by Yennefer » Thu May 18, 2017 7:59 am

Darren wrote:The Mavs drafted Dirk at 9th pick. That's basically the same position we're in upcoming draft.


Well, actually DAL drafted #6 and traded down to #9.
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Post#687 » by Suka Bongcic » Thu May 18, 2017 1:32 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:
Black Falcon wrote:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:
Too bad they didn't start the tank earlier and decide to see if Curry could play PG . If Curry could play PG then a Curry / Diallo backcourt would look pretty nice .

As for Diallo I wouldn't trade back to get him . Instead I trade for another 1st maybe the Portland Davis to Dallas TPE for the 20th Pick ? I also look into trading Matthews to Indiana for the 18th Pick in Indianas attempt to get better so they keep George . Either way Diallo is probably there . Then you draft a PF for with the 9th Pick ..

So your team looks like this

PG-Curry
SG-Diallo
SF-Barnes
PF-Issac or Markkanen or Collins
C-Noel

I still prefer Smith at PG to play with Curry while also grabbing a pick for Diallo by the time Diallo is probably ready to start Curry is probably ready to transition to the bench .

I don't think Diallo ever sees the court next season. He's an athlete. He's a long ways away from being ready. The kid can't shoot. He's below average with his handles. He's a runner and a jumper. I see him as a shorter poor mans Justin Anderson at this point. If we draft him, there's zero chance he starts this season. The kid needs a lot of work but definitely has the athletic ability to become a good one


I never mentioned him starting this year

Oh, ok. Figured he was starting considering every other player you listed is most likely a starter and you mentioned curry transitioning to the bench, while he only has one year left on his contract.

What do you see in Diallos game, other than athleticism, that makes him worthy of trading up to get him in the 1st rd? I don't see it.
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Post#688 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 2:12 pm

I have a couple questions about Diallo, he can obviously dunk but what else is he good at? How is his handle? Is he good at defense? Is his jump shot consistent? And most importantly can he run the P&R, because whoever is drafted by Dallas will HAVE to know how to run the P&R especially a guard. I'm just curious because pretty much all of the videos I've seen of him are just mix tapes of him dunking. That's great and all but he needs to know how to do more than just dunk.
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Post#689 » by Duke4life831 » Thu May 18, 2017 2:46 pm

Mr B wrote:I have a couple questions about Diallo, he can obviously dunk but what else is he good at? How is his handle? Is he good at defense? Is his jump shot consistent? And most importantly can he run the P&R, because whoever is drafted by Dallas will HAVE to know how to run the P&R especially a guard. I'm just curious because pretty much all of the videos I've seen of him are just mix tapes of him dunking. That's great and all but he needs to know how to do more than just dunk.


Phenomenal athlete and basically nothing else at the moment. His jumper is really bad and his handles are below-average to bad. Defensively he tries and when youre as athletic and long as he is that is definitely something. But no he cant run the PnR, he has really really bad ball skills.
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Post#690 » by Duke4life831 » Thu May 18, 2017 2:48 pm

I dont know if he slips by the Knicks or not, but Dennis Smith Jr would be a tremendous steal for you guys at #9. Best PnR player in the draft and a phenomenal athlete. He won ACC freshman of the year over guys like Tatum and Isaac and this was his first year back coming off his ACL. He would be a perfect fit for you guys.
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Post#691 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 2:57 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know if he slips by the Knicks or not, but Dennis Smith Jr would be a tremendous steal for you guys at #9. Best PnR player in the draft and a phenomenal athlete. He won ACC freshman of the year over guys like Tatum and Isaac and this was his first year back coming off his ACL. He would be a perfect fit for you guys.


That's who I'm hoping for. To me he seems very similar to Damian Lillard. And I agree that he'd be a perfect fit for the Mavs. With Smith and a resigned Noel the Mavs will have filled the two toughest positions to fill.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#692 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 2:58 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Mr B wrote:I have a couple questions about Diallo, he can obviously dunk but what else is he good at? How is his handle? Is he good at defense? Is his jump shot consistent? And most importantly can he run the P&R, because whoever is drafted by Dallas will HAVE to know how to run the P&R especially a guard. I'm just curious because pretty much all of the videos I've seen of him are just mix tapes of him dunking. That's great and all but he needs to know how to do more than just dunk.


Phenomenal athlete and basically nothing else at the moment. His jumper is really bad and his handles are below-average to bad. Defensively he tries and when youre as athletic and long as he is that is definitely something. But no he cant run the PnR, he has really really bad ball skills.


That's not good. To me he sounds like Gerald Green. Great athlete but just doesn't have the overall game to be a star.
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Post#693 » by agentofatlas » Thu May 18, 2017 3:00 pm

I agree. DSJ is probably the best case scenario for the Mavs at this point. His skill set just matches the Mavs. Unfortunately, I think the knicks like him as well. Plus I think our FO is dead set on Frank Ntikilina.
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Post#694 » by Duke4life831 » Thu May 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Mr B wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Mr B wrote:I have a couple questions about Diallo, he can obviously dunk but what else is he good at? How is his handle? Is he good at defense? Is his jump shot consistent? And most importantly can he run the P&R, because whoever is drafted by Dallas will HAVE to know how to run the P&R especially a guard. I'm just curious because pretty much all of the videos I've seen of him are just mix tapes of him dunking. That's great and all but he needs to know how to do more than just dunk.


Phenomenal athlete and basically nothing else at the moment. His jumper is really bad and his handles are below-average to bad. Defensively he tries and when youre as athletic and long as he is that is definitely something. But no he cant run the PnR, he has really really bad ball skills.


That's not good. To me he sounds like Gerald Green. Great athlete but just doesn't have the overall game to be a star.


Hes not even on Gerald Green's level. Green at least had somewhat of a jumper in high school and coming into the league. Its kind of an understatement to say Diallo has a bad jumper. Imagine Victor Oladipo with no offense, and thats about what Diallo is right now. Very similar measurements, body types and athletes. Victor had a handle and a jumpshot coming in though.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#695 » by dirkforpres » Thu May 18, 2017 3:26 pm

agentofatlas wrote:I agree. DSJ is probably the best case scenario for the Mavs at this point. His skill set just matches the Mavs. Unfortunately, I think the knicks like him as well. Plus I think our FO is dead set on Frank Ntikilina.


By all accounts, the Knicks like Ntilikina just as much as Dallas does.
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Post#696 » by 2011Champs » Thu May 18, 2017 7:00 pm

Jonathon issac would probably be nice if he falls to Dallas.

I'm not certain that Mavs draft Markkanen if he is available. I'm having second thoughts myself. Current day Markkanen is the same speed as current day Dirk. How slow will Markkanen be in a few years?

I suck at scouting college talent...I have no clue who would be best for Dallas. Lol
Just no more Mo Agee or Shane Fosters...who???...yep exactly!!!
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Post#697 » by k-lynch201 » Thu May 18, 2017 9:26 pm

2011Champs wrote:Jonathon issac would probably be nice if he falls to Dallas.

I'm not certain that Mavs draft Markkanen if he is available. I'm having second thoughts myself. Current day Markkanen is the same speed as current day Dirk. How slow will Markkanen be in a few years?

I suck at scouting college talent...I have no clue who would be best for Dallas. Lol
Just no more Mo Agee or Shane Fosters...who???...yep exactly!!!


Isaac is more of a project, and not position of need for us.

Smith or Nkitilina is def the guys we have to hope for, the more I want the French man the more I like his game..only question is the level of competition he is playing at, how will it compare to his rookie year in the nba?

Sadly it seems several teams before us will be looking at PG's: Kings, Knicks, Im sure even the Magic will be too, good thing NOLA doesn't have a pick or they sure would too.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#698 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 9:40 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if the NO makes a run at acquiring Chris Paul.
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Post#699 » by k-lynch201 » Thu May 18, 2017 9:54 pm

Mr B wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the NO makes a run at acquiring Chris Paul.


Paul nor Griffin will leave all that money behind or the LA life.

Which is fine, I prefer to see LAC lose over and over.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#700 » by Mr B » Thu May 18, 2017 10:14 pm

k-lynch201 wrote:
Mr B wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the NO makes a run at acquiring Chris Paul.


Paul nor Griffin will leave all that money behind or the LA life.

Which is fine, I prefer to see LAC lose over and over.


Griffin might be traded. Money is definitely a reason he might stay however Paul is at a point in his career where he has to think about his legacy. With those two bigs and CP it would put NO in legit contender status. Of course there's also a chance he goes to the Spurs who are reportedly interested. There's also the chance he pusses out and signs with Cleveland.

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