Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

Teffer10 · Post #701 » by **Teffer10** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:16 pm

I'm still scratching my head wondering why Prosper hasn't gotten any meaningful PT since his 20 point performance.
This is a guy whose development should be expedited because he certainly has the physical attributes that we desperately need right now. The potential seems to be there as well.

daoneandonly · Post #702 » by **daoneandonly** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:31 pm

Teffer10 wrote:Exum seems to make Kyrie expendable in the right deal.
That would be very tricky to find the right deal though.

Agreed. I don't think Luka needs a 1a or even 2, he's good enough that a #3 will suffice. I like Cam Johnson, was trying to figure a 3 teamer, but couldn't find one that makes sense

BeiBeau · Post #703 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:48 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Exum seems to make Kyrie expendable in the right deal.
That would be very tricky to find the right deal though.

Agreed. I don't think Luka needs a 1a or even 2, he's good enough that a #3 will suffice. I like Cam Johnson, was trying to figure a 3 teamer, but couldn't find one that makes sense

Luka has been playing 40 minutes a night so far this month. That is completely unsustainable. He has only been doing it to keep the team afloat while injuries have decimated us.

He still needs a second creator and he would be the first to tell you that.

Bob8 · Post #704 » by **Bob8** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:59 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Exum seems to make Kyrie expendable in the right deal.
That would be very tricky to find the right deal though.

Agreed. I don't think Luka needs a 1a or even 2, he's good enough that a #3 will suffice. I like Cam Johnson, was trying to figure a 3 teamer, but couldn't find one that makes sense

Luka has been playing 40 minutes a night so far this month. That is completely unsustainable. He has only been doing it to keep the team afloat while injuries have decimated us.

He still needs a second creator and he would be the first to tell you that.

Second creator, who wants to play games.

daoneandonly · Post #705 » by **daoneandonly** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:06 pm

Exum can be that secondary creator in the S5

Archx · Post #706 » by **Archx** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:36 pm

I honestly hope Kyrie is not another KP 2.0 at this point. That would be insanely unlucky for the Mavs that in 6 years they had two supposed 2ndary stars who were riddled with injuries.

BeiBeau · Post #707 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Agreed. I don't think Luka needs a 1a or even 2, he's good enough that a #3 will suffice. I like Cam Johnson, was trying to figure a 3 teamer, but couldn't find one that makes sense

Luka has been playing 40 minutes a night so far this month. That is completely unsustainable. He has only been doing it to keep the team afloat while injuries have decimated us.

He still needs a second creator and he would be the first to tell you that.

Second creator, who wants to play games.

??? He’s hurt. Did we not watch Powell fall on his leg during a live game?

I get you don’t believe in injuries but we watched that one happen.

But then again you’re also the guy who says Lively has 0 NBA level skills and wouldn’t be ready for years so that just shows your level of knowledge.

41Dirk41 · Post #708 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:02 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Exum seems to make Kyrie expendable in the right deal.
That would be very tricky to find the right deal though.

Agreed. I don't think Luka needs a 1a or even 2, he's good enough that a #3 will suffice. I like Cam Johnson, was trying to figure a 3 teamer, but couldn't find one that makes sense

Luka has been playing 40 minutes a night so far this month. That is completely unsustainable. He has only been doing it to keep the team afloat while injuries have decimated us.

He still needs a second creator and he would be the first to tell you that.

Agree.

Luka needs another creator and Exum isn't enough,he is good but limited.

If we trade Irving than we need another elite offensive attacker.

StoneIsland · Post #709 » by **StoneIsland** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:22 pm

Could we trade Irving for FVV straight up? That seems like a nice trade for both teams. Houston gets their new superstar and we get secondary playmaker who can score, assist and play some defense.

BliscoSantos · Post #710 » by **BliscoSantos** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:49 pm

StoneIsland wrote:Could we trade Irving for FVV straight up? That seems like a nice trade for both teams. Houston gets his new superstar and we get secondary playmaker who can score, assist and play some defense.

Hell no...FVV is a lot worse than Irving...apparently the Mavs,Pacers and Hawks are interested in Siakam,though I have now idea how the Mavs could beat Indianas and Atlantas offer

Post #711 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:58 pm

I just wonder if there are more gems in Europe like Exum, that was an amazing find, maybe they find a forward there...

41Dirk41 · Post #712 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:44 pm

Mavrelous wrote:I just wonder if there are more gems in Europe like Exum, that was an amazing find, maybe they find a forward there...

Me and Bob always said that... Euroleague is an elite tournament.

For sure a lot of Cs would be very good backup for the Mavs... For sure better and cheaper than Maxi/Powell :lol:

Btw Exum is here for Lindsay, without him i doubt that Cuban and Nico signed him. No way.

Wing is a tough spot because USA players are bigger, stronger and faster but they got into trouble with FIBA rules (Ingram was awful, he can't play... Everytime he put the ball on the floor he travels.)
With NBA rules European wings are in trouble... But there are some potential role players.

41Dirk41 · Post #713 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:47 pm

StoneIsland wrote:Could we trade Irving for FVV straight up? That seems like a nice trade for both teams. Houston gets their new superstar and we get secondary playmaker who can score, assist and play some defense.

I would like to read some posters when they will notice that FVV earns more than Kyrie :lol:

Post #714 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:52 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I just wonder if there are more gems in Europe like Exum, that was an amazing find, maybe they find a forward there...

Me and Bob always said that... Euroleague is an elite tournament.

For sure a lot of Cs would be very good backup for the Mavs... For sure better and cheaper than Maxi/Powell

Btw Exum is here for Lindsay, without him i doubt that Cuban and Nico signed him. No way.

Wing is a tough spot because USA players are bigger, stronger and faster but they got into trouble with FIBA rules (Ingram was awful, he can't play... Everytime he put the ball on the floor he travels.)
With NBA rules European wings are in trouble... But there are some potential role players.

Man, when I followed the NBA back in the 2000s I watched Navarro and Saras come to the NBA and be total scrubs, knowing full well they were great in Europe, lots of things changed since then...

Maverick41 · Post #715 » by **Maverick41** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:09 pm

Speaking of guys playing in Europe that we can bring over.....what about Bruno Caboclo. The guy looks like Giannis physically now, shooting well and....plays on the same team Exum did last year. Oh and same age too.

Note I don't know much about Euroleague but he is a guy that people had high hopes for like Exum. Fits the bill.

41Dirk41 · Post #716 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:37 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I just wonder if there are more gems in Europe like Exum, that was an amazing find, maybe they find a forward there...

Me and Bob always said that... Euroleague is an elite tournament.

For sure a lot of Cs would be very good backup for the Mavs... For sure better and cheaper than Maxi/Powell

Btw Exum is here for Lindsay, without him i doubt that Cuban and Nico signed him. No way.

Wing is a tough spot because USA players are bigger, stronger and faster but they got into trouble with FIBA rules (Ingram was awful, he can't play... Everytime he put the ball on the floor he travels.)
With NBA rules European wings are in trouble... But there are some potential role players.

Man, when I followed the NBA back in the 2000s I watched Navarro and Saras come to the NBA and be total scrubs, knowing full well they were great in Europe, lots of things changed since then...

Saras and Carlos went to NBA too late ( almost 30yo), they were stars in Europe but in NBA they had to start from the bottom of rotation... Completely different situation and bad timing for sure... Just like Milos Teodosic.
It's not easy for an European player fit in NBA regular season, the mindset is strange.
In Europe every game is important and played at full strenght in both of the court, of course in NBA there a lot of games and it's different.

But they were damn good and with their NT played great against team USA. Sometimes they won too.

Caboclo is playing great and he founds his role there, does he want come back in NBA and fight for minutes like Exum? I don't know...

Bob8 · Post #717 » by **Bob8** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 9:33 am

BeiBeau wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Luka has been playing 40 minutes a night so far this month. That is completely unsustainable. He has only been doing it to keep the team afloat while injuries have decimated us.

He still needs a second creator and he would be the first to tell you that.

Second creator, who wants to play games.

??? He’s hurt. Did we not watch Powell fall on his leg during a live game?

I get you don’t believe in injuries but we watched that one happen.

But then again you’re also the guy who says Lively has 0 NBA level skills and wouldn’t be ready for years so that just shows your level of knowledge.

It was for sure necessary to rate my knowledge of basketball.

The average time of missing associated with general heel contusions is around two games.

41Dirk41 · Post #718 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 9:43 am

Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Second creator, who wants to play games.

??? He’s hurt. Did we not watch Powell fall on his leg during a live game?

I get you don’t believe in injuries but we watched that one happen.

But then again you’re also the guy who says Lively has 0 NBA level skills and wouldn’t be ready for years so that just shows your level of knowledge.

It was for sure necessary to rate my knowledge of basketball.

The average time of missing associated with general heel contusions is around two games.

Btw it was 0 offensive skills and not 0 NBA level skills... But we can understand that someone is used to changing messages to say they are right. Nothing new.

41Dirk41 · Post #719 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 9:45 am

Read on Twitter

I don't think it's enough... But at least the maked an offer this time, it's a step forward.

BliscoSantos · Post #720 » by **BliscoSantos** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:18 am

41Dirk41 wrote:

Read on Twitter

I don't think it's enough... But at least the maked an offer this time, it's a step forward.

Yeah,I don't think it's enough too...ATL and IND can easily beat that,also SAC...but good on them for trying(u gotta work with what you got)...Maybe they can throw in Omax,or instead of Holmes send Grant...that would probably be a more realistic package, offcourse Siakam would have to resign